Pakistani Bride Poisons 15 Family Members for forced marriage

[third_string]

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@IsaidwhatIsaid

1. He may not have singled me out, but you know damn well that it addressed in response to my comment in the OP along with the “herp derp crazy desi feminazis” so I was definitely included in that lmfao. This is you just being purposefully obtuse at this point.

2. A forced marriage is a horrendous thing to do to someone, and if the captive snaps after enduring that and tries to kill their captors then you are not getting a sliver of sympathy out of me for the people who were actively a part of forcing someone into marriage lmfao. Y’all know damn well what happens in these backwards, remote areas in regards to marriage on top of that. You may push the la la hippy bull**** of “killing in all scenarios is wrong!” but I do not feel that way so, bloop! I’ve also already clarified that my lack of sympathy does not go towards the innocent bystanders who unfortunately drank the tainted lassi.

I was talking about desi feminazis on TWITTER, you’re so full of yourself lmao.

[Deeba1234]

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@Melodrama

Both were forced into this marriage so how was the girl being raped in this marriage? If she could execute a plan of killing a dozen of ppl, she really could escape her rape too. MAYBE she was raping her husband. Who knows?
He wanted to keep his wife with him, means he wanted to have sex with her? What? For this very reason any husband would confine or want to keep his wife? I would really like to know the percentage of desi woman complaining of marital rape in US. In desi culture it’s not called marital rape, it’s called arranged marriage.

You’re equating arranged marriages to marital rape???

You do realise rape means no consent..

And if a man is erect usually it means he is aroused.. ie enjoying.. and if he’s enjoying it we can assume he is consenting.. That’s why it’s difficult for a woman to rape a man, though it can still happen..

Also, I read that her plan had not been to kill a dozen people.. She had put poison in the lassi probably thinking it would only affect her husband and/or his family (not that that makes it ok obviously)..

I tend to agree with Reha though, am guessing she has mental issues or was abused or something.. It not, why wouldn’t she just leave? There’s not a lot of detail to this story yet.. I wonder if she has any injuries, marks, bruises, any general signs of mistreatment..

As to why it’s not ok to execute someone **if **it’s proven he/she has mental issues.. erm because they are not in control of their minds.. Civilised people don’t execute those who are mentally handicapped because they are not in control/not aware of what they’re doing.. their brains aren’t functioning like yours or mine..

[IsaidwhatIsaid]

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@third_string

I was talking about desi feminazis on TWITTER, you’re so full of yourself lmao.

Dude, you know damn well I was included in the general sentiment because of my comment in the OP. No need to get asshurt about this, I only brought it up cause SID_NY was being obtuse.

[IsaidwhatIsaid]

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@Deeba1234

You’re equating arranged marriages to marital rape???

You do realise rape means no consent..

**And if a man is erect usually it means he is aroused.. ie enjoying.. and if he’s enjoying it we can assume he is consenting.. That’s why it’s difficult for a woman to rape a man, though it can still happen.. **

Also, I read that her plan had not been to kill a dozen people.. She had put poison in the lassi probably thinking it would only affect her husband and/or his family (not that that makes it ok obviously)..

I tend to agree with Reha though, am guessing she has mental issues or was abused or something.. It not, why wouldn’t she just leave? There’s not a lot of detail to this story yet.. I wonder if she has any injuries, marks, bruises, any general signs of mistreatment..

As to why it’s not ok to execute someone **if **it’s proven he/she has mental issues.. erm because they are not in control of their minds.. Civilised people don’t execute those who are mentally handicapped because they are not in control/not aware of what they’re doing.. their brains aren’t functioning like yours or mine..

This is not true. The wetness of a female’s vagina or a male’s erection does not mean they are necessarily enjoying it, those are just body responses that happen regardless.

[FreshBakedPi]

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@IsaidwhatIsaid

This is not true. The wetness of a female’s vagina or a male’s erection does not mean they are necessarily enjoying it, those are just body responses that happen regardless.

This is an absolute disaster of a thread but I am stepping in briefly to say the above is absolutely accurate. These are biological responses and have no bearing on consent or enjoyment.

(Very little is needed to force a man to ejaculate for instance and an erection can very simply be achieved by stimulating the prostrate gland and never once touching the actual shaft of the penis…)

[third_string]

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@Deeba1234

You’re equating arranged marriages to marital rape???

You do realise rape means no consent..

And if a man is erect usually it means he is aroused.. ie enjoying.. and if he’s enjoying it we can assume he is consenting.. That’s why it’s difficult for a woman to rape a man, though it can still happen..

Also, I read that her plan had not been to kill a dozen people.. She had put poison in the lassi probably thinking it would only affect her husband and/or his family (not that that makes it ok obviously)..

I tend to agree with Reha though, am guessing she has mental issues or was abused or something.. It not, why wouldn’t she just leave? There’s not a lot of detail to this story yet.. I wonder if she has any injuries, marks, bruises, any general signs of mistreatment..

As to why it’s not ok to execute someone **if **it’s proven he/she has mental issues.. erm because they are not in control of their minds.. Civilised people don’t execute those who are mentally handicapped because they are not in control/not aware of what they’re doing.. their brains aren’t functioning like yours or mine..

That is not true, just cause a man is erect doesn’t mean we consent. It’s not hard for a man to be aroused, sometimes we wake up in the morning aroused for no reason. I feel like women don’t understand male anatomy which leads to predatory behavior.

[FreshBakedPi]

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@third_string

That is not true, just cause a man is erect doesn’t mean we consent. It’s not hard for a man to be aroused, sometimes we wake up in the morning aroused for no reason. I feel like women don’t understand male anatomy which leads to predatory behavior.

Exactly… and in turn there are a number of biological facts that can cause excess lubrication in a woman’s vagina (including ovulation, the body’s natural defense mechanisms, etc.) Honestly people… this is science and I am as disturbed by the lack of knowledge regarding both genders anatomies as third string and Isaid are…

[SaeedinPakistan]

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@Deeba1234

You’re equating arranged marriages to marital rape???

You do realise rape means no consent..

And if a man is erect usually it means he is aroused.. ie enjoying.. and if he’s enjoying it we can assume he is consenting.. That’s why it’s difficult for a woman to rape a man, though it can still happen..

Also, I read that her plan had not been to kill a dozen people.. She had put poison in the lassi probably thinking it would only affect her husband and/or his family (not that that makes it ok obviously)..

I tend to agree with Reha though, am guessing she has mental issues or was abused or something.. It not, why wouldn’t she just leave? There’s not a lot of detail to this story yet.. I wonder if she has any injuries, marks, bruises, any general signs of mistreatment..

As to why it’s not ok to execute someone **if **it’s proven he/she has mental issues.. erm because they are not in control of their minds.. Civilised people don’t execute those who are mentally handicapped because they are not in control/not aware of what they’re doing.. their brains aren’t functioning like yours or mine..

Civilized people don’t execute anyone. Murdering the killer won’t bring back the dead. The government should try to rehabilitate criminals rather than murder them.

[Deeba1234]

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Thirdstring, FreshbakedP, IsaidwhatIsaid etc I know not necessarily or always.. That’s why I chose to use the word** “usually” **in my post..

Also what I should have also said the man would have to be erect and penetrating at least a little.. Would tend to be hard for a wife to make her husband do it to her..

SaeedinPakistan, I’m anti death penalty myself but there are some cases that make me waiver slightly sometimes.. I think it’s a very complex subject.. Maybe time for a thread on it..

[SaeedinPakistan]

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@Deeba1234

Thirdstring, FreshbakedP etc I know not necessarily.. That’s why I chose to use the word** “usually” **in my post..

Also what I should have also said the man would have to be erect and penetrating at least a little.. Would tend to be hard for a wife to make her husband do it to her..

A quick search revealed this https://thoughtcatalog.com/lorenzo-jensen-iii/2014/08/19-men-share-stories-of-being-raped-by-a-woman-nsfw/

Nothing google can’t find for you. It’s mostly anecdotal. Nonetheless, it should give you some idea of how things could go bad for a man.

[third_string]

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@Deeba1234

Thirdstring, FreshbakedP etc I know not necessarily.. That’s why I chose to use the word** “usually” **in my post..

Also what I should have also said the man would have to be erect and penetrating at least a little.. Would tend to be hard for a wife to make her husband do it to her..

It is possible, there are all kinds of things she can do to coerce him into doing something he doesn’t want.

[Deeba1234]

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Again, I agree it can happen, but it’s not usual..

[Melodrama]

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Well the story she’s telling sounds rubbish to me. 17 people have died already, and 10 are in the hospital. Firstly she said it was her lover’s plan and then she agreed that she was with him. So just a glass of milk poisoned a family of 27 ppl? because her mother in law made a lassi of that milk, which EVERYONE drank and the bahu raani didnt? It’s all BS. She did something bigger than this. She poisoned the whole drink of the family. It’s BS that she wanted to kill her husband only and this is all accidental. Psycho.

[Deeba1234]

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Thirdstring, do you reckon she would try and coerce him into having s*x with her considering she had tried to run away back to her parents’ house?

A lot of things are possible, but not common.. In theory a child could rape an adult too..

There are always going to be exceptions..

[SID_NY]

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@Melodrama

Well the story she’s telling sounds rubbish to me. 17 people have died already, and 10 are in the hospital. Firstly she said it was her lover’s plan and then she agreed that she was with him. So just a glass of milk poisoned a family of 27 ppl? because her mother in law made a lassi of that milk, which EVERYONE drank and the bahu raani didnt? It’s all BS. She did something bigger than this. She poisoned the whole drink of the family. It’s BS that she wanted to kill her husband only and this is all accidental. Psycho.

Well, that psycho has a lot of supporters here..

[FreshBakedPi]

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@SaeedinPakistan

Civilized people don’t execute anyone. Murdering the killer won’t bring back the dead. The government should try to rehabilitate criminals rather than murder them.

You don’t post often but when you do you have a remarkable way of cutting through BS. :k:

@SaeedinPakistan

A quick search revealed this https://thoughtcatalog.com/lorenzo-jensen-iii/2014/08/19-men-share-stories-of-being-raped-by-a-woman-nsfw/

Nothing google can’t find for you. It’s mostly anecdotal. Nonetheless, it should give you some idea of how things could go bad for a man.

And there you have it… Was actually just about to post a similar link myself.

[third_string]

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@Deeba1234

Thirdstring, do yo reckon she would try and coerce him into doing it with her considering she had apparently tried to run away..

A lot of things are possible, but not common.. In theory a child could rape an adult too..

I was taking about women raping men in general not this case.

[Deeba1234]

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^It happens but it’s hardly as common as the other way, is it..

For anyone with comprehension issues again that’s why I said “usually”..

Not that that ever makes it ok of course..

[third_string]

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@Deeba1234

^It happens but it’s hardly as common as the other way, is it..

For anyone with comprehension issues again that’s why I said “usually”..

Not that that makes it ok of course..

It’s more common where women are in power, like as a teacher or a manager. They take of advantage of the fact that men get easily aroused like you said.

Why Are So Many Female Teachers Sleeping With Students? | Intellectual Takeout

[FreshBakedPi]

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@Deeba1234

^It happens but it’s hardly common, is it..

Not that that makes it ok of course..

Actually… it is. I have a good friend in Texas who is an epidemiologist and this topic is her primary research focus. She’s in Bali on holiday at the moment but when she gets back I’ll ask her for some studies and whatnot for you to read and PM you. There is an immense amount of confusion and misinformation regarding male assault.

Anyway our comments (third strings and mine) were about the topic in general… not this specific case.