Pakistani Bride Poisons 15 Family Members for forced marriage

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Her family is the culprit in all this hence all these events took place. She wasn’t happy with this marriage so she left his house. Her family forced her to go there as mentioned in the post, nobody forcibly took her back. Its her family from the very start.

And if you see from husbands point of view, he got married to someone who was in love & was emotionally involved with someone else. Who wants such marriage? The husband is innocent yet got killed by his wife.

All in all its her terrible family, if they married her to the guy she loved then nothing terrible like this would have happened.

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How do you know there was a sexual encounter which you are repetitively terming as “rape”, like you mostly do? Like I know for sure that 15 people got killed and she is the killer.

Ok forget 14 people, you are saying its legitimate for her to kill her husband? Just answer this in Yes or No.

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And no in west it wouldnt be a self-defense since it was a planned murder. For good God’s sake you dont need to be a lawyer to know it.

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Bobby why are you putting so much emphasis on her rape, you really dont know the inside story.
She was forced by her family, yet she had soft corner for them? So instead of killing them she thought of killing her husband, so she can get rid of him to marry the guy of her choice. How convenient. That psycho destroyed families. She should be hanged.

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*“1. You have to be mentally ill to gloat over the murder of 15 people.” -Thirdstring

  1. Also, “”** I don’t feel sorry for ***her husband or **any relatives that were involved in forcing her into the marriage."

*****What that statement translates into is that I do not feel any sympathy for the people who were active in forcing her into the marriage who drank the lassi. I am not unsympathetic to the innocent bystanders who drank the tainted lassi.

Reading comprehension 101
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In self defence and under forcible confinement absolutely yes a woman can kill the husband. She should and will get punished for manslaughter. I am not sure if Pakistan recognises marital rape.

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Who said I supported her actions? Lmfao, I am just not sympathetic to the people who forced her into the marriage. I don’t condone the murder of people who are pieces of **** like violent criminals but I won’t feel any sympathy for them if they get offed by someone else. Not the same thing. Y’all know damn well what the power dynamics are in these rural, backwards areas in regards to marriage, so miss me with that bull**** “it happens both ways!”

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I highly doubt they do.

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The story said she fled the husbands family home so that implies she was a captive, having non consensual sex is rape regardless of a forced marriage or even legit marriages. I am not sure if laws allow for that there. My best friend Bridgette’s brother is arrested for marital rape and Bridgette tells me that he was framed as he wanted divorce. He wouldn’t be confining her to discuss politics with her??

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Maybe read up on battered women syndrome defence, I am not sure if she would win but here if a woman kills in a situation of being forcibly confined it may be used.

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She proved she is kam aqal. if the girl was a little more mature she would not have gone about doing things the way she did. If she wanted to be really dramatic she could have ran away or something, she should have just taken a stand in the first place and no gotten married that might have lead to a better outcome than poisoning her husband. Her mental state is understandable , she just was not happy but really what she did is more than wrong. Would not say its forgivable , she really did not have a reason , she could have found another way of solving this that did not involve killing people.

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For 1, thirdstring wasnt addressing you. Thats how a general audience is addressed not specific.

For 2, both you and bobby got the memo and didnt read it. They were KILLED. aka MURDERED. forcing into marriage isnt equivalent to someone deserving an automatic murder. May be in your dictionary but as I said, taking one’s life is the worst crime ever. You can continue justifying it if that gives you a good night sleep

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Under which law?

Again, Under which law?

For one, you didnt even answer my question which I asked to answer in yes or no. So you should be very thankful you aint a technical person like going into law or anything cuz you would have lost every argument, every case.

And please for once just mention the link and content that she was “raped” or otherwise cut this BS out.

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Battered Women’s Syndrome - FindLaw

So a forced marriage is to play ludoo..lol. So do you think a dulha has sex with a dulhan? If he didnt want sex with her why keep her confined and force her into a marriage she didnt want.

BWS and the Law
Battered woman syndrome is now recognized in legislation by many states and is considered when defending battered wives who kill or injure their abusive spouses. For the courts, BWS is an indication of the defendant’s state of mind or may be considered a mitigating circumstance. For example, the court may consider that a BWS woman felt that she was justified in attacking her abuser, and that she was in reasonable fear of imminent danger due to her condition and her experiences with the abuser.

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Same old Same old Yaadi Yaada Yaada..

Let me rephrase again: Find me a link that says that in this story: “THE MURDERER WAS RAPED BY HER HUSBAND”

If you cant find anything like that, stop making up stories like a desi MIL.

Jeez

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A lot of common law is based on precedent, so here is one.

[FONT=Times New Roman]The jury acquitted Ms. Lavallee, who did not testify. The Crown appealed to the Manitoba Court of Appeal, which ordered a new trial in the case. Essentially, the Court felt that in the absence of the evidence from the psychiatrist, the jury would not have accepted the argument that Ms. Lavallee had acted in self-defence. The Court also felt that the trial judge had not properly instructed the jury as to what use it might make of the psychiatric evidence. For these reasons, the Court of Appeal said that the jury should not have heard the psychiatric evidence.
[FONT=Times New Roman]The case was then appealed to the Supreme Court of Canada. Madam Justice Bertha Wilson, in delivering the unanimous judgment of the Court, disagreed with the Manitoba Court of Appeal and restored the acquittal, thereby recognizing “battered wife syndrome” as a defence to murder.
[FONT=Times New Roman]In arriving at this decision, Madam Justice Wilson adjusted fundamentally the law of self-defence to accommodate battered women, who, if that law were applied strictly, would not be legally able to advance their plight as a defence. Until this decision, anyone who intentionally caused death or grievous bodily harm in repelling an assault was legally justified if he or she did so “under reasonable apprehension of death or grievous bodily harm.” Although the relevant section of the Criminal Code does not provide that the accused must apprehend imminentdanger when he or she acts, this requirement was inserted by judicial interpretation in a series of cases.

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The details are not out yet so let us wait, do you now feel a bit more educated about the battered wife syndrome? Rape aside are you really that tone deaf to women’s rights that you cant see forced marriage and forcible confinement as abuse.

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Apples and oranges.

Force marriage yes

Does it mean rape too? No

Forced marriage could easily be a forced nikah and and a willing sex. A forced sex is not proven anywhere here. If you have proof, do show us.

So yea, I’m telling you, be very very thankful to not be a lawyer otherwise you just cant make any argument and would be a loser in all cases.

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Luckily we have many “Pakistani” American Lawyers here. I think i should start tagging them to explain it better in law terms to those who are broadcasting rape stories without any substance

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Both were forced into this marriage so how was the girl being raped in this marriage? If she could execute a plan of killing a dozen of ppl, she really could escape her rape too. MAYBE she was raping her husband. Who knows?
He wanted to keep his wife with him, means he wanted to have sex with her? What? For this very reason any husband would confine or want to keep his wife? I would really like to know the percentage of desi woman complaining of marital rape in US. In desi culture it’s not called marital rape, it’s called arranged marriage.