Pakistan world cup preliminary squad

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Pakistan’s 30-member squadOpeners
Mohammad Hafeez, Ahmed Shehzad, Nasir Jamshed, Sharjeel Khan, Sami Aslam
Middle order
Misbah-ul-Haq, Younis Khan, Asad Shafiq, Azhar Ali, Sohaib Maqsood, Fawad Alam, Haris Sohail, Umar Akmal
Allrounders
Shoaib Malik, Shahid Afridi, Bilawal Bhatti
Wicketkeepers
Sarfraz Ahmed, Kamran Akmal
Fast bowlers
Mohammad Irfan, Wahab Riaz, Junaid Khan, Umar Gul, Ehsan Adil, Mohammad Talha, Anwar Ali, Sohail Tanvir

Spinners
Saeed Ajmal, Zulfiqar Babar, Raza Hasan, Yasir Shah

Ajmal, Malik in Pakistan’s preliminary WC squad | Cricket News | ICC Cricket World Cup 2015 | ESPN Cricinfo

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Re: Pakistan world cup preliminary squad

I hope none of kamran, Shoaib and Sohail Tanvir make it to the last 15.

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What would be your last 15, Mine:

Mohammad Hafeez, Ahmed Shehzad, Misbah-ul-Haq, Younis Khan, Sohaib Maqsood, Fawad Alam, Umar Akmal, Shahid Afridi, Sarfraz Ahmed, Mohammad Irfan, Junaid Khan, Umar Gul, Saeed Ajmal, Zulfiqar Babar, Yasir Shah

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Openers (2): Ahmed Shehzad, Muhammad Hafeez
Middle Order (5): Fawad Alam, Umar Akmal, Misbah ul Haq, Azhar Ali, Sohaib Maqsood
All rounders (1): Shahid Afridi
Wicket keeper (1): Sarfaraz Ahmad
Fast bowlers (4): Muhammad Irfan, Junaid Khan, Umar Gul, Ehsan Adil
Spinners (2): Yasir Shah, Raza Hasan

My ideal 11 men lineup would be:

  1. Ahmad Shahzad
  2. Sarfaraz Ahmad
  3. Fawad Alam
  4. Misbah ul Haq
  5. Sohaib Maqsood
  6. Umar Akmal
  7. Muhammad Hafeez
  8. Umar Gul
  9. Yasir Shah
  10. Junaid Khan
  11. Muhammd Irfan
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Please include Younis Khan. Pretty please.

If you can't give us Kamran, at least do the next right thing.

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I think Younis' competition is with Misbah and Azhar Ali since they have similar roles: provide stability even if the strike rate is a bit low. Comparing their ODI and LIST A records, I think the other two are much better:

Misbah Batting and fielding averages
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Tests
53
92
16
3736
161*
49.15
8673
43.07
8
26
382
47
39
0
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ODIs
151
138
31
4609
96*
43.07
6253
73.70
0
37
308
71
63
0
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T20Is
39
34
13
788
87*
37.52
715
110.20
0
3
45
26
14
0
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[TR="class: data1"]
First-class
200
328
40
14676
284
50.95

41
78

183
0
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List A
268
245
53
9133
129*
47.56

11
63

118
0
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Twenty20
113
100
29
2536
107*
35.71
2143
118.33
1
9
160
100
42
0
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Azhar Ali **Batting and fielding averages[TABLE="class: engineTable, width: 470"]
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**Tests
39
74
5
2851
157
41.31
7206
39.56
7
18
270
5
35
0
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ODIs
14
14
3
452
96
41.09
697
64.84
0
4
39
1
2
0
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First-class
116
200
18
6665
157
36.62

21
29

98
0
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List A
99
84
19
3168
119
48.73

7
20

27
0
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Twenty20
37
37
4
710
72
21.51
675
105.18
0
2
66
13
20
0
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Younis Khan Batting and fielding averages
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[TH]4s[/TH]
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Tests
96
172
16
8327
313
53.37
15952
52.20
28
29
903
55
105
0
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ODIs
254
244
23
7017
144
31.75
9314
75.33
6
48
560
53
131
0
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T20Is
25
23
3
442
51
22.10
364
121.42
0
2
31
12
12
0
[/TR]
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First-class
196
327
39
14585
313
50.64

48
55

199
0
[/TR]
[TR="class: data1"]
List A
325
309
33
9311
144
33.73

11
61

182
0
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Twenty20
78
73
16
1681
71*
29.49
1473
114.12
0
8
126
29
32
0
[/TR]

Ok. So Mibah is a clear winner among the three. Among Younis and Azhar, Younis has more ODI runs at a better strike rate but a much poorer average. But since, Azhar has only played 14 ODIs, I think the LIST A stats are more relevant here. Younis has more runs but again at much poor average (around 15 less than Azhar), and a poorer conversion rate 11/61 compared to Azhar's 7/20. Hence, if I am selecting a player based on his ability to provide stability in the middle, I would chose the one who can stay for longer and is able to convert 50s into 100s. So, sorry Younis : )

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What is List A? Younis average abt 32 in both odi and list A.

Azhar Alis strike rate sucks. Literally sucks the air of the batting side.

IMO centuries are overrated. A quick fire 90 may be more important than a century. Average and strike rate should determine a person's contribution. Not century. 100 is just a number.

I will root for Azhar Ali inclusion. He redefines tuk tuk.

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TIL Bhatti is an all-rounder. Even he will be surprised to learn that.

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List A are domestic limited over/one day matches as opposed to first class matches which are the domestic versions of test matches.

A 90 might be better than a century occasionally, but keeping everything else the same, a 100 is always better than a 90 : ) I mean if a person consistently gets out earlier than another person and scores consistently less than the other, then I'd say the other is a better or a more reliable batsman.

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Ok didn't know list a was domestic one day.

Re 90 vs 100. N when u say a person consistently gets out earlier than the other. But that is where average comes into play. A person with 10 100s and average of 35. A person with 1 100 and average of 45. Both played same number of innings. Who is better?

Many times people spend a life time in the nervous nineties. And eventually get a 100. I would prefer a 90 without wasting deliveries for a useless stat. That is where strike rate comes in.

So strike rate plus average should tell whole story. Plus where a person bats. A number 6 would have lower average. Cause he may have to slog at end. And may not be able to build innings like number 1 thru 4.

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Re: 90 vs 100. I was talking in context of Younis vs Azhar. Azhar already has a much better average than Younis. The better conversion rate is an additional plus point. So it shows he doesn't just score more on average but he also plays a long inning more often compared to Younis or that his 'long' innings are usually longer than Younis', if that makes any sense : ) So IMO while conversion rate alone might not be sufficient, if you look at it together with average, it does tell you a bit about the quality of a player. But I agree, among the three, average is the most important parameter, then the strike rate, and then the conversion rate.

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Ok. I misunderstood. I though you were speaking in general.

Now re Azhar vs Younis, Azhars higher average comes at the expense of a really poor strike rate. So I am not sure I really want that high average in the batting line up.

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Re: Pakistan world cup preliminary squad

Openers
Ahmed Shehzad and Nasir Jamshed
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Middle order**
Misbah-ul-Haq, Fawad Alam, Umar Akmal

Allrounders
Shahid Afridi, Bilawal Bhatti

Wicketkeepers
Sarfraz Ahmed, Kamran Akmal

Fast bowlers
Mohammad Irfan, Junaid Khan, Anwar Ali, Ehsan Adil

Spinners
Zulfiqar Babar, Raza Hasan, Yasir Shah

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I think neither Azhar nor Younis would fit into the team if we had a batsman with a slightly better average than Younis and a slightly better strike rate than Azhar to replace them. Among the two, I would choose Azhar especially for the 'rainy days' when Pakistan starts losing quick wickets and we need someone to stay in the middle.

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Re: Pakistan world cup preliminary squad

Kitnay log manga thay

Sarkar 15 mangay thay

16 kyun list ker diye. :hmmm:

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Veeru: One day pandrah man team mein Pakistan ne solah men chuni
Villager 1 to Villager 2 : 16 Aadmi kyun chune gaye
Villager 2 : Pakistan selectors aise hi karte hain
Villager 1: Pakistan selectors aise kyu karte hain?
Villager 2: :hmmm:

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**Grand plan to get Shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal in World Cup squad
**‘Grand plan to get Shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal in World Cup squad’ - Sport - DAWN.COM](http://www.dawn.com/news/1149361/grand-plan-to-get-shoaib-malik-kamran-akmal-in-world-cup-squad)

Now, this makes sense.

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Had seen Shoaib Malik when I ws in India Dec 2012. He killed us. So did Nasir Jams he'd as opener.

Someone here told me Shoaib don't perform against other teams.

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If true, really pathetic.

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Since then he has only been killing the prospects of other more deserving younger players.

This is Shoaib Malik’s record in the last three years: a batting average of 24.27 (not a single 50+ score) and he only took two wickets in 16 matches at 76.50 each.

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unfiltered
1999-2013
216
5490
143
32.67
7
141
4/19
36.36
0
75
0
-3.69
Profile
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filtered
2012-2013
16
267
43
24.27
0
2
1/3
76.50
0
5
0
-52.22

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v Afghanistan
2012-2012
1

0

0
0
0

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v England
2012-2012
2
30
23
15.00
0
0

0
0
0

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v India
2012-2013
4
80
34*
26.66
0
1
1/3
12.00
0
0
0
14.66

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v Ireland
2013-2013
2
44
43
44.00
0
0

0
0
0

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v South Africa
2013-2013
6
113
35*
28.25
0
1
1/27
48.00
0
5
0
-19.74

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v West Indies
2013-2013
1
0
0
0.00
0

0
0

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