Yes in Riyadh for a very long time, came back in November last year .
Mansoor Amjad looks like he is 14 years old. Finally a Pakistani cricketer wo does'nt pertend to be younger thant he is.
Anybody else notice Misbah ul Haq's name on the list?
Could he finally be given a chance?
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Mansoor Amjad looks like he is 14 years old. Finally a Pakistani cricketer wo does'nt pertend to be younger thant he is.
Anybody else notice Misbah ul Haq's name on the list?
Could he finally be given a chance?
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I highly doubt Misbah will get a chance. As far as batting is concerned the only chage would be Inzi coming in place of Youhana. The rest will probably and should stay the same.
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dint we see a match where kaif and zaheer played in the same team????
or am i mistaken????
or is one of them a non-muslim????
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they do play together sometimes. bottomline is bcci always tries 2 make sure that only one plays. zaheer is now an integral part of their team so he will play always. but in general thats wat they have done. even when azhar was there, no muslim guy ever featured. i think a keeper by the name of saba karim came in, but he was dropped as well althou he wasnt that bad. now lets see whats gonna happen if munaf establishes himself. india's lead-off bowling pair comprising of two muslims?? or will they find a way to drop zaheer?
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Can we please give this religion thing a rest. Does it matter what religion the player is. They are all playing for Pakistan and their goal is one, to win and enhance Pakistan's reputation in the field of circket. .
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Is anyone contradicting that? No, we were just discussing his MOM conversation/speech with Rajah, no one here is saying, hes a non-muslim and shouldnt be in the team.
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they do play together sometimes. bottomline is bcci always tries 2 make sure that only one plays. zaheer is now an integral part of their team so he will play always. but in general thats wat they have done. even when azhar was there, no muslim guy ever featured. i think a keeper by the name of saba karim came in, but he was dropped as well althou he wasnt that bad. now lets see whats gonna happen if munaf establishes himself. india's lead-off bowling pair comprising of two muslims?? or will they find a way to drop zaheer?
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When Azhar was playing a spinner by the name of Sairaj Bahutule featured in some games. He is still in the 14 member squad for the current series. Zaheer and Kaif will play in the ODI's. The Indian selection committee is headed by Syed Kirmani whose decision it was to not blood Munaf or Irfan yet as they are too raw.
Kindly make sure of your facts before you make cheap and unneccesary cracks. Or was it just that after toying with Kaneria's religious identity you got bored and turned to India's minority for fun? :)
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When Azhar was playing a spinner by the name of Sairaj Bahutule featured in some games. He is still in the 14 member squad for the current series. Zaheer and Kaif will play in the ODI's. The Indian selection committee is headed by Syed Kirmani whose decision it was to not blood Munaf or Irfan yet as they are too raw.
Kindly make sure of your facts before you make cheap and unneccesary cracks. Or was it just that after toying with Kaneria's religious identity you got bored and turned to India's minority for fun? :)
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firstly i am thrilled with minorities in pak being more prominent in the paki team. i'd love more of them would feature in paki teams.
on another note, i'm not making fun of the indian minority! its a sad state of affairs that we only see a muslim or two [on rare occasions] being selected. thats just how indian cricket has been all the way. how many muslims are there in india, 150 million or something!? how many get a chance to play in the national team?? one or two at max. no one else even features in the squad. n thats how it has been last decade n more.. n u think there isnt nething fishy abt it??
kareena give me a break.. will ya??
^ Bhaijan we Indians are more thrilled than you at seeing a Hindu in your team - we've waited 55 yrs for it. I might not be alive to see the second one.
Secondly I am impressed with your knowledge of the inner workings of the dastardly BCCI. It is quite obvious you know something even our media does not - that only one muslim at a time is allowed in the team. If you are really into stats then you would know hindus outnumber muslims by 6 times in India - taking that into consideration we should be seeing not more than one and a half muslims on the team at a time. 2 would upset the ratio in the favor of muslims. Do you think our esteemed BCCI could be thinking like you and keeping track of all these things when they do the selection?
I await your answer with bated breath...:)
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^ Bhaijan we Indians are more thrilled than you at seeing a Hindu in your team - we've waited 55 yrs for it. I might not be alive to see the second one.
Secondly I am impressed with your knowledge of the inner workings of the dastardly BCCI. It is quite obvious you know something even our media does not - that only one muslim at a time is allowed in the team. If you are really into stats then you would know hindus outnumber muslims by 6 times in India - taking that into consideration we should be seeing not more than one and a half muslims on the team at a time. 2 would upset the ratio in the favor of muslims. Do you think our esteemed BCCI could be thinking like you and keeping track of all these things when they do the selection?
I await your answer with bated breath...:)
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karina behen: i'm just saying wat i hv seen over the years. mayb not 2 u, but 2me its just so obvious. there is nothing cheap nor unnecessary abt it. newayz we cant convince each other of either argument, so lets just lay it off!
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Yes in Riyadh for a very long time, came back in November last year .
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good to know, me still in Dammam :)
allright come one guys chill out!!!! lets just not talk about religion and only talk about cricket...
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^ Bhaijan we Indians are more thrilled than you at seeing a Hindu in your team - we've waited 55 yrs for it. I might not be alive to see the second one.
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i assume u missed kaneria's cousin (anil dalpat) when he kept the wickets for pakistan....
and what more, he held the record for the highest numbers of runs scored by a keeper until andy flower surpassed him during a match against india last year i think....
While Yohanna is out Asim or Misbah should be included.
Taufeeq Umar
Imran Farhat (part-time spinner)
Yasir Hameed
Misbah-ul-Haq
Inzamam-ul-Haq (captain)
Shoaib Malik (spinner, Allrounder)
+Moin Khan (wicketkeeper)
Abdul Razzaq (Pacer, allrounder)
Mohammad Sami (pacer)
Shabbir Ahmed (pacer)
Danish Kaneria (spinner)
Squad: Taufiq Umar, Imran Farhat, Yasir Hameed, Inzamam-ul-Haq (captain), Asim Kamal, Shoaib Malik, Moin Khan (wicket-keeper), Shoaib Akhtar, Mohammad Sami, Mushtaq Ahmed, Danish Kaneria, Faisal Iqbal, Abdul Razzaq, Mansoor Amjad, Kamran Akmal, Shabbir Ahmad, Salman Butt, Misbah-ul-Haq.
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and they included that new guy for what????
just to watch the match form the pavillion????
and u really dont think asim will sit out after a 99 on debut, do u????
Shoaib Akhtar's appeal is turned down by ICC
Wisden Cricinfo staff
October 22, 2003
Shoaib Akhtar's appeal against a ban for one Test and two one-day internationals has been rejected by Richie Benaud, in his role as ICC Code of Conduct Commissioner.
Shoaib was handed the ban by Clive Lloyd, the match referee of the first Test at Lahore, during which Shoaib was alleged to have used abusive language to Paul Adams, thus breaching the ICC's Code of Conduct. He will now be ineligible to play in the second Test against South Africa at Faisalabad, but he was doubtful for that game anyway after straining his hamstring. Shoaib's next game, fitness permitting, will now probably come in the third ODI of the forthcoming home series against New Zealand.
Benaud, the former Australian captain who is now a respected TV commentator, said in his judgment: "In my view, the reason for the implementing of the ICC Code is so captains in particular and players in general will embrace the Preamble to the Laws of Cricket, which makes quite clear what is required of them on the field."
He went on: "The appeal I am asked to determine relates to the sentence imposed by Mr Lloyd, not to the actual offence. It seems to me that Mr Lloyd correctly followed the Code of Conduct rules in every way after Shoaib Akhtar accepted, and said, he was guilty."
This was Shoaib's second breach of the clause involving abusive language in the last 12 months, so the penalty imposed was "upgraded to that of a Level 3 offence in line with the provisions of the Code", according to the ICC.
SA will luagh their a$$es out on PCBs hospitality ..... keep it on PCB ..... soon PAK-Cricket is whole worlds laughing stock
Pakistan’s Sami struggling to be fit for second test
LAHORE, Pakistan, Oct 22, 2003 (Reuters)
Pakistan fast bowler Mohammad Sami is struggling to be fit for the second test against South Africa starting on Friday in Faisalabad.
Pakistan manager Haroon Rasheed told Reuters on Wednesday that the 22-year-old fast bowler was suffering from a viral infection of the stomach.
“He is feeling very weak and has had problems with intake of food. He also has fever. At present we are not sure if he will be able to play in the second test,” Rasheed said.
“We will know before the match if his condition has improved. But only he can decide if he is fit to play in the test,” he added.
Pakistan are also likely to be without fast bowler Shoaib Akhtar for the Faisalabad test as he is banned for three matches and has a hamstring strain.
The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has appealed against the ban to the International Cricket Council (ICC) and former Australian captain Richie Benaud is due to make a decision this week.
Akhtar was suspended by match referee Clive Lloyd after being found guilty of using abusive language towards South Africa spinner Paul Adams on the first day of the first test in Lahore.
“Akhtar is taking treatment for his injury and he is with the team. Again in his case even if he is available to play he will have to undergo a fitness test to confirm whether he is 100 percent fit to last the match,” Rasheed said.
Akhtar and Sami played vital roles in Pakistan’s eight-wicket win over South Africa in the first test. Sami played with high fever, while Akhtar limped off the field on the fourth day and was initially expected to be out for three weeks.
© Reuters Limited.
http://www.cricketnext.com/news1/next/reutersOct03/reuters145.htm
uhuh. i see trouble for pakistan, first shoib gone n now sami is doubtful :crying:
Sad news... Both Sami and Shoaib out !! Time to bring Abdul Razzaq, Shabbir and an all-out spin attack. Iss rondi team ko nacha dein :D
Gul and Shabbir can do the job alongside 2 spinners plus Malik. It would be a mistake to include Razzaq as his bowling is not geared towards taking wickets.
Still two days to go and hopefully Sami will regain fitness. We need him, the last thing we want is these cry babies from SA to win.
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Still two days to go and hopefully Sami will regain fitness. We need him, the last thing we want is these cry babies from SA to win.
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I think we should include Yasir Ali (as he is reported to be quicker than others) and ask him to point his bouncers towards their rib cage or heads :D