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*Originally posted by saby: *

nah yaara, i dont think so. The best way to counter two left armers is to play two left handers at the top. Rngland lost knight through run out and tresco was horribnly out of form otherwise left handers handles left armers well. Coz of the natural angle with which they face and one more thing, Zaheer doesnt bowl out swingers to the left handers That effectively, Nehra does that.
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True but remember Zaheer and Srinath will open the bowling, Nehra is first chance, so it would be right-left bowling combo, and so the batting combo should be the same. The only leftie I have seen bowl to Saeed is Chaminda Vaas, and he has been very successfull but since Zaheer and Nehra are no where the class of Vaas, I don't think there will be any problems technically for Saeed.
But I still think Elahi should play for Taufeeq, he looks alot more confident than Taufeeq. His shots selection aren't that bad.

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We will need to bat first and Taufeeq will need to anchor the innings for us. He should keep one end up and the others should bat around him. Saeed will have to deliver tomorrow if we are to set a stiff challenge. I thiink if we bat first and set a target of around 250 we will be able to defend it. We should play the same team which we did against Holland except that Younis should come in for Elahi.

Best of luck to Pakistan :jhanda:

** LADS LET’S KEEP THE THREAD CLEAN AND ENJOY THE GAME.**

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Inzamam set to bounce back against India - Waqar**

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Great to see our coach and captain standing firmly behind our best batsman. All he needs is a break. Insh'Allah it'll be tomorrow.

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well the match hasnt even started and post rate is 163 despite GS troubles over the whole week :eek: I think by the end of match and even after it it will cross 1000 marks.. and If Pakistan wins (insha’allah) 2000 maybe?? :smiley:

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I wish pakistan(and Obviously india) reaches the super sixes...or else all the excitement will go off from the world cup AND most importantly from gupshup

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:k:

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Tension say meri susu na nikal jayay!

I can't see azhar in place of Razzaq specialy when he made 48 against Holland. The wicket is suppose to assist the bowlers alot. Saqlain is no murli so he needs to sit out. Either bring Afridi or Sami. Sami is my first choice though. Afridi can trouble the batsmen with his faster deliveries.I hope Waqar makes a good decision. Giving up saqlains position is important to strenthen our attack(bowling or batting).

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Very Funny Article by M J Akbar.I am posting it here because I find it funny though I dont agree with many things he said...

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Law of Destiny vs Law of Averages - By M.J. Akbar
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Johannesburg: Pakistan has never beaten India in the World Cup. Is that
good news or bad news?

By the Law of Destiny that should be good news for us. Clearly Pakistan
are not destined to beat us in the Cup. And in any case the Karma of the
Indian team has been flowing strongly ever since the fans stoned a home
or two the other day and sms messages raced through the nation asking
for a boycott of products that had sponsored the team. Little wakes up
the boys more sharply than the thought that their faces could disappear
from the hoardings.

On the other hand, by the Law of Averages Pakistan should at long last
get their act together. On paper, they are tigers as well.

I fear that what will really operate on Saturday is the Law of Martial
Law.

This Law does not operate in India. If India lose on Saturday they will
have enough opportunity to recover their breath and save their face. But
if Pakistan lose...

If Pakistan lose the 11 players may well have to split towards 11
separate destinations. Waqar Younis is fine: he can always disappear
into the arms of his in-laws in Australia. Wasim Akram should be all
right as well. He has done enough to get a job in Wisden in London.

Inzimam could lumber off to Dubai, where a large section of the
Pakistani population makes every effort to look like him. Shahid Afridi,
with his looks, could find a bride anywhere. He could stay back in
Durban and model for television ads for imported spices. I am less sure
about Yousef Youhana; he is a Christian, which makes it doubly tough. My
advice to him would be to seek asylum in Bible-belt America after he has
altered his name to Joseph John. Yousef Youhana is the original Aramaic
form of Joseph John.

Saeed Anwar, of course, would have no problem returning to Pakistan. He
could land at Karachi airport to a hero?s welcome from the Binoori
Mosque Fan Club (Binoori Mosque in Karachi is where Osama bin Laden met
and befriended Mullah Omar).

But what about the comparitive unknowns, the guys in the middle who have
been included because they are alleged to be all-rounders? They are the
ones slated to get the rap for being bowled by Ashish Nehra. My heart
goes out to them but my mind is a blank. Perhaps they should head
towards New Zealand, which still has a generous immigration policy.

Indians have done the strangest things against Pakistan in one-day
cricket and still been allowed to return home. Bishan Bedi, whose IQ was
generally three steps behind his decisions, once forefeited a game in
Sahiwal, Pakistan, because Sarfraz Nawaz, who had no IQ at all, bowled
four bouncers in an over. No one understood what Bedi?s problem was. He
was not batting. In fact, we had eight wickets left and only 23 runs to
score when Bedi sulked.

Fortunately bookies were not in control of the game then, or Bedi would
never have survived an inquiry.

The most famous moment in the history of Indo-Pak encounters was in
Bangalore in 1996. Aamir Sohail, spurting like a jet engine, smashed
Venkatesh Prasad one more time to the boundary, and then arrogantly
gestured to Prasad to go fetch the ball. Prasad, suddenly simmering like
a volcano, clean bowled Sohail next ball. Pure magic.

Prasad is a commentator in this World Cup. His bowling was better.
Sohail is also a commentator. His batting was better.

Sohail?s partner in Bangalore, Saeed Anwar, is still playing, although
heavily disguised by a huge beard. He can?t bat anymore, and never knew
how to bowl. They must have included him in the team under the
cross-border terrorism quota.

The most ludicrous moment in this history was surely in Canada, during
the Sahara Cup, when Inzimam chased an Indian spectator for calling him
a potato. The price of truth has always been high. Inzy has scored 10
runs in four innings in this Cup. If he maintains the same run rate on
Saturday, even Dubai will not give him asylum.

It has taken India and Pakistan 24 years to play 85 one-dayers. Who
knows how many centuries it will now take for the two countries to
complete a century of one-dayers.

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I agree with playing afridi instead of saqi but way lower the order where he can be used strictly as a pinch hitter. Rest of the team should be the same as it was for holland. I just hope the weather doesnt stick its ugly face in this game......since it rained out their practice sessions today.

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I don't think we need Shahid Afridi in this game. Mohammad Sami will do just fine. I agree with Mr X's team.

If Pak gets to bat first, they need to follow what Imran and Miandad did in the final of WC 1992. We were 150 for 3 at the end of 40 overs. And the last 10 overs produced 99 runs!. No need for early heroics. Just play simple and positive cricket and don't lose too many wickets. Anything over 240 will be challenging the Indians.

And guys, just relax and enjoy the game. it is afterall only cricket.:)

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fungi, that was an excellent strategy, but the problem is that our current players in the team are unable to play that role, meaning to score around 4 every over till the 40th over and blast after that. Instead we tend to the opposite, and plus Youhana is the only guy who can do that, others have no temper.

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we better kick some indian ass or i am not watching cricket again

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listennnnnnnn..wot do u guys thinkkkkkkkk? if we win the toss..bat first or no?

firstly, it rained as i heard on friday and conisdering that we shouldnt bat first.

secondly, india batted first and were all out 125. soo wot would be the wise decision at thit point?

thirdly, so far against quality teams we have batted 2nd and lost all the games. once again we have to be very carefull making this decision!

wot do u all think?

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Ok guyz.. just 7 hrs away b4 the crunch match. Lots of speculation going around. Some saying Azhar’s gonna replace Abdur, some say Saqi shd sit out in, and some have also said that Shoaib shd open! My ideal lineup is as follows:

SAEED
TAUFIQ
ELAHI
YOUHANA
ABDUR
YOUNIS
RASHID
WASIM
SHOAIB
SAQLAIN
WAQAR

Now if i were waqar, i’d drop inzi. Yes, we shd support him in such tough times but this guy is awful in this WC. He can hardly put the bat onto the ball, and when he does he plays a horribly mistimed shot. Younis shd be brought in but the manager has already made it clear that this wont happen.

We need to get a gd opening stand, so that our middle order doesn’t gets exposed to the new ball. We’ve done well in the mid overs but by then we’ve also lost 4,5 wickets in games against Eng and Aus. So we need to protect our middle order. Saeed bhai is playing in his last WC. Its been ages since he’s given us a match winning performance. This is the best time to do it. In any case, we need an opening stand of 40, 50 runs or else we might be skittled out for a low score.

In bowling, the two W’s shd open the bowling. Shoaib shd be sent 1st change. If he’d bowl at 99 mph average in the starting, after 10 overs it might drop down to 98 mph. Even thats pretty darn fast. Plus, we also need some pressure in the mid overs.

Another thing not really stressed by anyone here is that we need to field very well. Its a huge game for us and each run will count. I only saw the 1st game and in that we were pretty descent, so I have hope in our fielding.

Anywayz lets hope we win this one and storm back into Super 6 contention. Pakistan Zindabad!

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:jhanda: :jhanda: :jhanda:

:k: :k: :k:

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Do you guys remember this.Its great to see Indian and Pakistani playing in one team.It was great to see this and it was done for a cause. :k: :k: :k: :k:



Match Referee: Nasim-ul-Ghani (Pak)
Man of the match: AR Kumble 


SRI LANKA innings
ST Jayasuriya                            b Waqar Younis         6
+RS Kaluwitharana     c Tendulkar        b Wasim Akram          6
AP Gurusinha          c Jadeja           b Tendulkar           34
*A Ranatunga          c Saeed Anwar      b Kapoor              32
MS Atapattu                          c & b Kapoor              18
HP Tillekeratne       c Aamir Sohail     b Kumble              15
UU Chandana           c Azharuddin       b Kumble               7
HDPK Dharmasena       c Azharuddin       b Kumble              10
WPUCJ Vaas            not out                                  11
M Muralitharan                           b Kumble               5
KR Pushpakumara       not out                                   3
Extras                (lb 4, w 13, nb 4)                       21
TOTAL                 (9 wickets, 40 overs)                   168

FoW: 1-12, 2-16, 3-86, 4-112, 5-114,
     6-126, 7-146, 8-149, 9-157.

Bowling                      O      M      R      W
Wasim Akram                  5      0     16      1 (1nb, 4w)
Waqar Younis                 6      0     32      1 (3nb, 2w)
Tendulkar                    7      0     41      1 (3w)
Kapoor                       8      0     34      2 (1w)
Kumble                       8      1     12      4
Aamir Sohail                 6      0     29      0 (3w)

WILLS XI innings
SR Tendulkar          c Dharmasena       b Muralitharan        36
Saeed Anwar           lbw                b Dharmasena          16
Aamir Sohail          c Pushpakumara     b Muralitharan        10
*MA Azharuddin        lbw                b Chandana            32
Ijaz Ahmed            c Tillekeratne     b Chandana            18
AD Jadeja             c Kaluwitharana    b Vaas                28
+Rashid Latif         not out                                  21
Waqar Younis          not out                                   5
Extras                (lb 3, w 1, nb 1)                         5
TOTAL                 (6 wickets, 34.3 overs)                 171

DNB: Wasim Akram, AR Kumble, AR Kapoor.

FoW: 1-53, 2-65, 3-82, 4-113, 5-126, 6-164.

Bowling                      O      M      R      W
Vaas                         7.3    0     43      1 (1nb)
Pushpakumara                 4      0     24      0
Dharmasena                   6      1     17      1
Muralitharan                 8      0     46      2
Chandana                     8      0     35      2
Tillekeratne                 1      0      3      0
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*Originally posted by Rehaan: *
listennnnnnnn..wot do u guys thinkkkkkkkk? if we win the toss..bat first or no?

firstly, it rained as i heard on friday and conisdering that we shouldnt bat first.

secondly, india batted first and were all out 125. soo wot would be the wise decision at thit point?

thirdly, so far against quality teams we have batted 2nd and lost all the games. once again we have to be very carefull making this decision!

wot do u all think?
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Well surav Ganguly got nothing to lose. He knows he has strong batting lineup and can chsae any score. If he lose the toss it wont hurt him as much it would to Waqar.

No matter how much pitch is assisting the bowlers we better bat first if we want to win.

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In 1996 World Cup, when Australia and West Indies refused to play with Srilanka in Srilanka, combo of Pakistani and Indian players went to Srilanka to play a friendly match. :slight_smile:

Yeah, I remember. :wink:

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I jusy hope Saeed anwar gets atleast 40+... the poor guy hasn't scored more than 29 runs in the whole wc so far..

Well, If opening can get us atleast 100, then we can atleast give a target of 280+!

I just hope we kick some Indian ass!!

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Insha’Allah Best of Luck to Pakistan :jhanda:

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yeh that’s all we can say