Re: Pakistan vs India T20 World Cup 2014. H/L post#246
Never recovered after losing Sharjeel early.
kar lo baat
uncle jee sharjeel was not playing
Re: Pakistan vs India T20 World Cup 2014. H/L post#246
that is right...we won 2 and they won 1
so we will be playing again on feb 15 next year in the WC...and CC trophy is back....so allah khair karay
jawab mil to gaya ab kia rah gaya hai?
chai peena band karo...and answer the question!!! ;)
chai cheez hee aisee hay no chhori jaaye naa chhut-ti hay
OK...PD just saw highlights
Junaid shd absolutely not play again for some time....he needs to go back to the first class and sort himself out...the guy has lost the confidence....he has lost the swing for sure but he is not even putting the effort and his body language is horrible...no idea what happened to this guy
Gul.....as pathetic as ever....
Shoaib Malik has no role in T20....if the intent is to provide stability, Shoaib maqsood can fulfill the role in the middle....just send him with instructions..
Agree with most points. Shoaib Malik and Kamran Akmal should be out along with Junaid Khan and Umar Gul. Play Anwar Ali who is better fielder, good bat. No body should play just because someone is a good fielder (only) or a 'psychological reason'.
Re: Pakistan vs India T20 World Cup 2014. H/L post#246
jawab mil to gaya ab kia rah gaya hai?
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bhai sawal tha...how come Imran Khan's team, javed minadad's team, wasim akram's team, waqar younis's team, Inzi's team, afridi's team, misbah's team....all lost to India in every world cup , T20 world cup and other important matches?
Re: Pakistan vs India T20 World Cup 2014. H/L post#246
Indian players soak pressure better than Pakistan. 2-3 losses could be put down to fluke or bad luck but not 9 straight defeats in different world cups since 1992. This means that Indian players are mentally tougher (hence deliver in games that matter) than Pakistanis despite us having a better overall record against them.
But there is also another aspect. India's batting is superior (it has always been better than ours) and 80% of the time, limited overs games are won by batsmen. Unless Pakistan sort out their batting woes, they would continue to struggle against the likes of India, Australia and South Africa in big games.
Re: Pakistan vs India T20 World Cup 2014. H/L post#246
Indian players soak pressure better than Pakistan. 2-3 losses could be put down to fluke or bad luck but not 9 straight defeats in different world cups since 1992. This means that Indian players are mentally tougher (hence deliver in games that matter) than Pakistanis despite us having a better overall record against them.
But there is also another aspect. India's batting is superior (it has always been better than us) and 80% of the time, limited overs games are won by batsmen. Unless Pakistan sort out their batting woes, they would continue to struggle against the likes of India, Australia and South Africa in big games.
so the next question is..why are indian players mentally tougher than us? and that too in every generation....
better first class structure than us where they play more competitive cricket ? ranji is arguably much better than quaid azam tournament
and now IPL giving young indian players a chance to play in stressful conditions with world class players
rememebr we are only talking abt india pak matches which are full of stress...same indian team will lose to sri lanka or WI in world cup all the times..but will always always beat Pakistan
Re: Pakistan vs India T20 World Cup 2014. H/L post#246
Not sure about their recent record against Windies, but Indians generally do well against Lanka in big games
IPL has certainly helped Indian batting
Re: Pakistan vs India T20 World Cup 2014. H/L post#246
Pakistani batsmen just don’t attack enough / are very defensive. It’s about the intent. You need to take the attack to the opposition. For example, against the spinners, the players were afraid to use their feet. Batsmen generally struggled to rotate the strike. They were afraid to go over the infield if they weren’t finding gaps. It almost seemed like they were scared of getting out and you cannot score if you bat that way.
And if you play so many dot balls you cannot win. Out of 120 balls Pak played 51 dot balls. That means 8 overs and 3 balls out of 20 overs were maidens!!!
Lately Pak media has been acting like ‘subah ka bouncer’! Too much hype for nothing. Guys like Hamid Mir and Sikander Bakht are usu. over the top
We do the talking, they do the walking. Common theme these days…
Re: Pakistan vs India T20 World Cup 2014. H/L post#246
who is hamid mir
that idiot anchor who talks like an illiterate person? what does he know abt cricket?
Re: Pakistan vs India T20 World Cup 2014. H/L post#246
You don't know who Hamid Mir is? Chaplosi Talkshow host and his usu. childish antics in Takra..
Re: Pakistan vs India T20 World Cup 2014. H/L post#246
You don't know who Hamid Mir is? Chaplosi Talkshow host and his usu. childish antics in Takra..
I know his father waris mir and have a lot of respect for him !!!
Re: Pakistan vs India T20 World Cup 2014. H/L post#246
I thought Mishra bowled really well; choked the flow of runs..
Re: Pakistan vs India T20 World Cup 2014. H/L post#246
I thought Mishra bowled really well; choked the flow of runs..
we are now discovering a new weakness of ours...we cant play leg spin either!
Re: Pakistan vs India T20 World Cup 2014. H/L post#246
Neither can Bill O'Reily. That's why he has the no spin zone.
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one of those days when i was so busy all day long in meetings that I didnt see one single ball...oh well, i didnt miss much! did I? lol
didnt i say many times during the asia cup that DO NOT PLAY 3 FAST BOWLERS ON THESE PITCHES......these idiots re: our think tank do not listen.
not to mention, we have pathetic pacers...umar gul is a loser..khan has lost his swing though he is a good prospect...bilawal is just not there.
if they keep on playing with 3 pacers, they will be out.
can anyone help me understand why did we play asia cup final with 3 pathetic fast bowlers..and why today? please!
In ODI, you should play with 3 fast bowler, unless you have three world class bowler that are also in form. Afridi is not as potent as he used to be four years ago with the ball. Ajmal can't experiment much if the runs are leaking from the other end, so his effectiveness is limited because of lack of pressure from other end. He too is not on his top form with the ball.
For T20 hit or miss format however your suggestion is valid. We should go with three specialist spinners on these pitches.
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Re: Pakistan vs India T20 World Cup 2014. H/L post#246
Pakistan Cricket Team History in World Cup Matches against India :smack2:
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[TH]Inns[/TH]
[TH=“class: left, align: left”]Result[/TH]
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Pakistan
173
48.1
3.59
2
lost
[/TR]
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Pakistan
248/9
49.0
5.06
2
lost
ODI v India
Bangalore
9 Mar 1996
[/TR]
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Pakistan
180
45.3
3.95
2
lost
ODI v India
Manchester
8 Jun 1999
[/TR]
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Pakistan
273/7
50.0
5.46
1
lost
ODI v India
Centurion
1 Mar 2003
[/TR]
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Pakistan
141/7
20.0
7.05
2
tied
T20I v India
Durban
14 Sep 2007
[/TR]
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Pakistan
152
19.3
7.79
2
lost
T20I v India
Johannesburg
24 Sep 2007
[/TR]
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Pakistan
231
49.5
4.63
2
lost
ODI v India
Mohali
30 Mar 2011
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Pakistan
128
19.4
6.50
1
lost
T20I v India
Colombo (RPS)
30 Sep 2012
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Pakistan
130/7
20.0
6.50
1
lost
T20I v India
Dhaka
21 Mar 2014
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Re: Pakistan vs India T20 World Cup 2014. H/L post#246
Its the mindset which cost us big games in last 10 years against India or any better team. Back in 80s/90s Pakistani batsmen were still limited (not among the top except for Miandad, Inzi and Anwar…all fearless and good with technique) in their capabilities. But as a whole squad (including world’s best bowlers and couple of geniuses batsmen mentioned above) the mediocre batsmen would also play without fear of being exposed on their weakness or the class of the opponents.
We need to bring the same madness that accompanied method. That is Pakistan cricket. Whenever we are defensive, we lose. Except for few occasions where we successfully chased huge targets and 4 or 5 batsmen getting 50s…everyone chipping. This is more like India or SA playing, not Pakistan.
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Our Nohit Sharma can no hit with the best of them. His foundations are so deep ,they are known to exit from the other side of the earth. Over emphasis on building is a mantra that is becoming a curse.
Felt the pain of the openers, esp Nohit sleepwalking through initial overs. And digging deep hole for the rest.
Re: Pakistan vs India T20 World Cup 2014. H/L post#246
sir jee yae to sab theek hai....par yae to batayien why the hell we are mentally so weak against India?
you said that Pak team is inconsistent...well against india it is so consistent that it will lose for sure in every important game lol
we have such a bad record against india in ICC that they will always throw it on our face even if we win a match against them here and there .....it is such an embarrassment now and we need next 30 years to correct it
samagh may nahieen aata....what is the problem? how come a team can lose every single ICC match to an opponent in last 30 years? i mean it even beats every statistical analogy
no doubt that Indian players are mentally superior who can soak pressure better than Pakistan ..we even lost in 1992, 1996 and 1999, when India had a weaker team
maybe it is a reflection of some serious psychological block ... plus indian team has far more aggressive players in last 10 years
anyway bhot hee sharmadgai hotiee hai bhai!!!
maybe there is a mental block, however we do have an overall superior record against them and we have beaten them in important tournaments, beaten them in champions trophy at edgbaston, which I was privileged to watch at the ground, beat them in ASIA cup recently. Once this mental block is overcome we will beat them regularly here as well. I do not agree with merchants of doom here who tear the team apart after every loss.
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maybe there is a mental block
maybe?
I do not agree with merchants of doom here who tear the team apart after every loss.
I dont know i am merchant of what but i said same things when Pakistan won in last few matches..playing with 3 pathetic fast bowlers is unbelievably stupid in these conditions....
speaking of losing against India in WC...it is getting a bit nasty and serious now. Cricket is the only sport that Pakistanis follow and they have a huge rivalry with india and when you lose for straight 25 years, it will be a concern. no matter what our skippers say shamelessly after losing every match (it does not matter blah blah), it brings the moral down...and one needs to do something. just saying that play your natural game is not going to work. You do some analysis and at least try to find some conclusions and then try to address them.
i agree with aasif that the reason pakistan has lost every WC match is because it is a competition of nerves under huge pressure and since we always had a weaker batting and since batsman needs to make one mistake to get out, we always lost ....and most likely will lose most of times in stressful matches against them....
i also made the point that not only we lost but we lost comprehensively in every match...there was not even one close match...so that tells you something. No matter how bad india batted, we could not chase and when we batted first, we were bundled on a very low score.