Pakistan v/s Holland

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I'm sure we'll be fine without him... There have been instances where a captain has to sit out because of "some" injury, right? I think Waqar must be feeling injured by now.
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Exactly! Agree with your batting line up as well, Changez.

I think Pakistan should get lots of batting practice in this match and for that they need to bat first.Which means Toss would be very crucial.Imagine Holland batting first and getting out for 100. you dont wana see Pakistani batsmen going into Match against India with low confidence.

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I think Pakistan should get lots of batting practice in this match and for that they need to bat first.Which means Toss would be very crucial.Imagine Holland batting first and getting out for 100. you dont wana see Pakistani batsmen going into Match against India with low confidence.
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Holland making 100 and Pakistan chasing. Allah Reham Karey hamarey haal par.

Pakistan hope to move from reverse gear into fifth

Facing a summary exit if they stumble again, Pakistan aim to put their World Cup campaign back on the rails in Paarl here against lowly-rated Holland on Tuesday.

Paarl is in the wine country in the Western Cape. The weather is dry and hot, and if the forecast is to be believed, likely to remain so with the temperature around 32 degrees celsius.

The wicket, though not genuinely dicey, is not an easy one to bat on. It is the venue where Holland made India struggle to just 204 before the latter prevailed, and where Sri Lanka blew away Canada for the lowest one-day international score of 36. That match was over in just 115 minutes, it also was the shortest ODI ever.

But Pakistan must banish such thoughts; whatever the conditions, they have to conquer them. There is no option for them but to win against Holland, and win big. And then keep on winning against India on March 1, and Zimbabwe on March 4 to survive and stay in the hunt for one of the three Super Sixes slots from their group.

Since they are way down on the points table at the moment, with only Holland and Namibia below them, that is the least they can do to be back in reckoning. If weather and upsets by other teams do not end up thwarting them, it should be enough.

But with eight Pool A games still remaining to be played, who knows what might transpire. But their disappointing loss against England may continue to haunt them for quite some time to come.

“We have to do it the hard way now”, said the Pakistan coach Richard Pybus, “and I hope that the pressure of the situation brings out the best in the boys and makes our batsmen perform”.

With skipper Waqar Younis and manager Shaharyar Khan absent from the regulation pre-match press conference, after conducting a long session at the nets in searing heat, Pybus fulfilled his share of the responsibility by facing the media.

Blaming Pakistan’s misfortunes squarely on the batting collapse, he conceded that in the setback against England “some bowlers may have bowled an over or two too many, but the side’s bowling and fielding was competitive. Three wickets in the space of three deliveries early on pulled the rug from under us. The remaining batsmen got sucked into the situation and that further complicated things.”

On the possibility of an angry reaction back in Pakistan, which is quite likely if there is no radical transformation in the team’s fortunes, Pybus said that though he and Waqar felt accountable, but he was not overly concerned about that. “We can take care of certain technical aspects, the rest depends on execution on the field”.

When asked whether the side lacked the ability and influence of batsmen like Javed Miandad or Saleem Malik, Pybus said: “Inzamam-ul-Haq and Yousuf Youhana are champion batsmen. The experienced players between them have more than 1500 one-day internationals. That is the kind of experience no other team has. The bottom line is that they have to perform”.

With the prospect of exit looming large, Pybus thought his batsmen need to bat all the way. “I wish I had a magic wand to make our batsmen perform,” he said. Though he was concerned about the non-performing middle-order, he added that the Pakistan batsmen mostly perform in two gears: fifth or reverse, and hoped that from here on it would be the former.

Inzamam and Youhana’s woeful run has made things rather difficult for the late order, and it has crumbled under the pressure. “Unlike Australia or South Africa, we lack genuine all-rounders, as we have bowlers who can bat a bit”, said Pybus.

In this regard, Azhar Mahmood still remains untried. A genuine batsman with an exciting repertoire of aggressive shots and an under-rated swing bowler, Azhar merits an outing in place of Abdul Razzaq, who seems jaded and has mostly struggled since his comeback from injury.

Despite a string of poor scores, Shahid Afridi might retain his place because he adds to the depth in bowling. With the bearded figure of Saeed Anwar showing committment and skill despite not having made any sizable score, and likely to get the nod, the rest of the eleven pretty much picks itself.

The toss will again be critical, for Pakistan need to bat through 50 overs to see their top order batsmen recapture a semblance of form, and also to improve their net run-rate. This is far more important than Wasim Akram getting his 500th wicket (which he should have had except for a leg before decision that went the other way) or Shoaib Akhtar blasting the Holland batsmen into oblivion.

A contrast of such silken skills and red hot pace, Akram and Akhtar look great when they bowl in tandem, making a chill run down the spines of batsmen. But in reality it is the flowing drives and ferocious cuts and pulls of Anwar, Afridi, Inzamam and Youhana that are the need of the hour for Pakistan.

http://www-usa.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2003/FEB/146380_WC2003_24FEB2003.html

This is a known bad batting track so pakistan shouldnt have any great difficulty removing holland for under 150...but even that might prove daunting for our batsmen in their current form so they will have to keep holland below 80. They should put inzi to open since he seriously needs to get some runs under his belt before saturday. I think quote of the day for me today was "Pakistan batsmen mostly perform in two gears: fifth or reverse, and hoped that from here on it would be the former"by Pybus.

I have a feeling that pakistan will mess this one up too.

aight here is the deal

Pakistan's likely prospects
Out if England beat India and they lose to India
Out if India beat England, they lose to India and England beat Australia
Through if England beat India and they beat India
Through if India beat England, they beat India and Australia beat England
Reliant on run rate if India beat England, they lose to India and Australia beat England
Reliant on run rate if India beat England, they beat India and England beat Australia

Now its upto them what can they do....agar ab bhi ghairat na aye inhein to phir bhaar mein jaayein

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I have a feeling that pakistan will mess this one up too.
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i won't be surprised if they did that.....

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*Originally posted by Rangeela Guppy: *
I have a feeling that pakistan will mess this one up too.
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shakal achi na ho tu banda baat tu achi kerta hai:)

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shakal achi na ho tu banda baat tu achi kerta hai:)
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Baat suchi honay ka khatra zeeada ho to usey maan lena chaheye. :)

If Kenya can beat SL, anything can happen. Still my hope are up a'n running. Pakistan must win with a BIG margin.

my team

saeed anwar
taufeeq umer
yousaf youhana
azher mahmood
abdul razaq (or younis khan)
inzimam ul haq
wasim akram
rashid latif
saqlain mushtaq
shoaib akhter
mohammad sami

waqar can call in sick or something and let inzi become a puppet captain with wasim calling all the shots.

If we bat first it's important to make sure we don't lose early wickets - yeah I know it's only Holland but the form our guys are in first make sure we are in a position to post 250 and win the match.

We've been put in to bat. Afridi and Younis have been dropped, Taufeeq and Elahi come in. Great decision, our batting looks stronger for it, though our bowers will have to all make sure they are on form.

**Holland won the toss and elected to field

Pak Team:
Taufeeq
Saeed
Razzaq
Salim
Inzimam
Youhana
Rashid
Wasim
Saqlain
Waqar
Shoaib
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I think they are trying to see which batsmen can hold the fort. For example If Taufiq can make a mark here, he might be able to win a spot against the indians... Afridi is not playing..
Good chance to get some batting.

Great to see Afridi dropped.

Latest score: Pakistan 2/0 in 2.0 overs. Holland are bowling well and not giving away loose deliveries to the pakistani opening batsmen.

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Great to see Afridi dropped.
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Ehsan Bhai,

Aap Afridi ka peechey kyon padein hain ? Remember last time he smashed Holland and Maybe using him today would have done a great to improve the NRR for pakistan. He may not have the technical skills to face class bowling, but against Holland, he may have been tried.

Wesay aapus ki baat hai, Afridi will be back...

Pakistan picking up the rate: 18/0 in 4.3 overs. Good going till now.