Pakistan To Send Troops To Iraq ???

Gen. Hamid Gul is the former ISI Chief
so what he says can be believed
but the Q is that what would be the aftermath if Pakistan sends its tropps to iraq

“Pakistan is likely to send its troops to Iraq well before the next
general elections in that country [scheduled for early next year],” says
former director general of the Inter-Services Intelligence, retired
Lieutenant-General Hamid Gul, in a telephone interview with Asia Times
Online…“Pakistan is the specific domain of the US Central Command,
like India falls under the Pacific Command, and the visit of General
John Abizaid means there is an exclusive agenda in the region with
marked priorities, which include operations in the Pakistan-Afghanistan
tribal areas and forcing Pakistan to support its war in Iraq, where the
US now has realized that its troop operations are a failure and only
Muslim armies can play a role,” said Gul, who was a part of Pakistan’s
ruling oligarchy until Islamabad did an about-turn on Afghanistan and
support of the Taliban in late 2001, and gradually sidelined those who
supported jihadi movements. Gul is the architect of Pakistan’s jihadi
movement, which played an active role in Kashmir and Afghanistan."

Full Article Here http://208.39.143.167/atimes/South_Asia/FG03Df03.html

Hamid Gul's various geo-political predictions over the past 3 year have invariably not come to pass. I pay little attention to what he says these days.

ooo really :konfused:
i thought he was one of the most intelligent officers we had
could u plz give some examples of his predictions that went otherwise

I agree with Mad.. he's just another Peer PagaRa sans the funny moustache-beard ensemble.

General Hameed Gul lives in an ideal world. As far as sending our troops to Iraq is concerned , we should not loose sight of the fact that its not about whether the troops are from a muslim country or a non-muslim country. What matters is whether they support the occupying power and since Pakistan is an ally of US in its war against terrorism, I doubt they would be saved from Iraqi wrath.

i am sorry i am unable to give the link but i read some where else a few days back where a Pakistani offocial told on condition on anonymity that Pakistan has decided to send its troops to Iraq but only if under the UN banner
lets see what hapens

Here’s another report on this topic.

http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20040709-045528-4466r.htm


U.S.: Time for Pakistan to prove its worth

By Anwar Iqbal
UPI South Asian Affairs Analyst

Washington, DC, Jul. 9 (UPI) – Pakistan is under pressure to fulfill two U.S. demands, sending troops to Iraq and catching high-value al-Qaida targets, diplomatic sources and media reports said Friday.

**U.S. officials have indicated they think that with the largest army in the Islamic world, Pakistan can play a key role in raising a Muslim force for Iraq and reducing the existing pressure on U.S. forces who are facing almost daily attacks by Iraqi insurgents.

President George W. Bush publicly sought Pakistani troops for Iraq while announcing a $3 billion economic assistance package for Pakistan at the Camp David presidential resort in June 2003.**

The United States, however, made no serious attempt to raise such troops until now because the Pakistanis – and America’s other Muslim allies – had said they would only contribute troops to a force either mandated by the United Nations or requested by an Iraqi government.

With the installation of an interim Iraqi government on June 28, that condition has been fulfilled, and late last month Washington sent a senior military official to Islamabad to remind the Pakistanis the pledge President Pervez Musharraf had made when he met Bush at Camp David in June 2003.

After his meetings with Musharraf and other Pakistani generals, Gen. John Abizaid, chief of the U.S. Central Command, said he had discussed “the geo-strategic environment, the security situation and ways and means to further enhance ties between the armed forces of the two countries” with the Pakistanis.

The Pakistani media, however, reported that during his talks with Pakistani leaders, the U.S. general emphasized the need for raising a Muslim force for peace duties in Iraq and hopes Pakistan could play a leading role in that force.

The need for Pakistani troops has been further enhanced with the announcement of the new government in India, another country with a large army, that it would not be sending its troops to Iraq. After their talks with Abizaid, Pakistani officials indicated their willingness to send troops to help the U.N. mission in Iraq and a recent U.N. move may make it easier for the Pakistanis to do so.

Diplomatic sources have informed United Press International that Pakistan’s ambassador to the United States is a front-runner to head the United Nations mission in Iraq.

The sources said U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan has already discussed the possibility with Musharraf. The Pakistani ambassador in Washington, Ashraf Jehangir Qazi, is a career diplomat who has previously headed his country’s missions in India and China.

As a senior Muslim diplomat, Qazi may be more acceptable to the Iraqis than others and his inclusion in the U.N. mission may also encourage Pakistan to contribute troops to a U.N.-mandated force for Iraq.

^thanx Talwar :k:
Ashraf Jahangir Qazi was the name i wanted to mention instead of “UN Banner” but cause i had missed the source i didn’t

Pakistan should definitely not send troops to Iraq. The Iraq war was pointless, it killed a bunch of civilians too. If they do send troops there will probably Paki hostages being held until Pakistan withdraws its troops.
And if u watch the news u are probably seeing the Republicans and CIA people saying it was a bad idea to invade Iraq and that Intel. made a mistake.

Pakistan will send troops to Iraq and it does not matter.(Period). Murdaar qaum when accept military dictatorship since 1947 why they worry whether it send troops or not? who cares?

FARID

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*Originally posted by mAd_ScIeNtIsT: *
Hamid Gul's various geo-political predictions over the past 3 year have invariably not come to pass. I pay little attention to what he says these days.
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hmmm oh yara he was head of ISI..do u no wht it means????...he could even kick the butt of president

i heard today that we might be sending our troops to iraq… :nook:

hukoomat ko apni kursi har haal mein bachani hae na aakhir :halo:

if this happens it would really really SUCK!!! :frowning:

beghairti aur bewafai kee hadd ho jayay gi :disgust:

we should die in shame if this happens :nook:

This is what happens when you have a dictator who runs his country based on dictats from Washington instead of popular mandate. :nook:

im pretty sure if there was a civilian govt such as the Tind Bros or BB, they would have done exactly the same. You think they would have had guts to tell Pres Bush and Co that they wont be supporting war on terror or send troops to Iraq or WANA operation etc?

Barri Tind resisted US pressure on nuke tests didn't he?

Pak's Military dictators have always caved into US demands.

^^i a never in favour of a military rule
but i think we can agree to some extent to what Jagga said
Nawaz Sharif's decission was taken in a do or die situation
our elected leadrs have also been doing more or less the same as being done by the military govt currently

Re: Pakistan To Send Troops To Iraq ???

i hate the idea

pres mushy did say that pak troops would only go to iraq once a multi-national force has been established to protect un staff. i don't even like this idea, i don't want our pak troops to cause harm to any muslims in iraq or vice versa.

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*Originally posted by Khilaari: *
Barri Tind resisted US pressure on nuke tests didn't he?

Pak's Military dictators have always caved into US demands.
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yaar the nuke testing was a different issue. the US always put pressure on pak govt on the nuke issue even before the tests of '98. Waddi Tind had no choice but to go ahead with the tests after indians had done theirs. if he had caved in then, he would have been thrown out, pathrao/timatar/jootay, etc by the people and mush wouldnt have had to kick him out the following year. anyway we can discuss this in another thread.

I hope they dont send Pakistani troops to Iraq though the appointment of Ashraf Jehangir Kazi ( I have met and heard this veteran ambasador on various occasions in Washington D.C)is a step towards that goal. He is good, no doubt about it but well I don't want our troops to be killed for no reason and in someone else' fight. We should try to fix things on our home front first. Having said that we all know it won't be very easy to resist american pressure. But if Mushharaf can do it this time around,then it would be great.