A military statement says the “Hatf 9” missile was successfully launched from an undisclosed location on Tuesday.
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s military says it has test-fired a newly developed short-range missile capable of delivering a nuclear warhead. Read More
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Great job keep up the good work
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I am no defense expert but dont you think that a missile with max range 60km is a bit too under range for a nuclear bomb?
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Neither am I yet as long as it keeps our enemy in the East restrained it is good enough for me.
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Actually no America once test fired several Artillery based Nuclear Weapons. Most fammously in 1953 they tried one 280mm (11inch) Howitzer that fired a standard sized shell with special a Nuclear Warhead in the Nevada desert.
Whilst I am an Infantryman and no expert on Artillery I’m sure the smarter mathematicians among you will calculate that at the trajectory in the footage (about 37-40degrees) and time it took the shot to fall on the Horizon, guessing the Shell travelled at excess of 500feet per second that could have travelled quite a distance but would have fell much shorter than 60km. Therefore it’s perfectly possible to fire a Nuclear Weapon at those short ranges.
Why they chose to use a slower Missile as a delivery system for such a short range instead of simply converting Artillery for such a purpose I dont know.
But in all Honesty I know the effects of these weapons and they really make me cringe the World does not need these Satan toys. If men must fight, as they always have done then let it always be fairly and on the field of battle.
Nuclear Weapons are a disgrace to humanity and Mans valour… to hell with WMD!
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^ I agree with what you said about WMD. no sane person can disagree with that.
i am not doubting the techincal aspect of short range nuke missiles.
what i meant was, dont you think the effects of a bomb exploding so close to you can actually harm you as well. especially in the case of war when you will fire the missile from atleast 10 km inside your own territory.
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Your correct.
Nobody actually nows the true impact of Nuclear Weapons, those who actually studied closely the ground Zero's at Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bale to draw the conclussion that Nuclear weapons had devastated the region beyond expectations.
Aside from the almost obliteration of everything within the first two miles of Ground Zero, Burning Radiation and Debris scattered over an area of a further six miles and decades later there were still high concentrations of radiation almost 20 miles away from Ground Zero. While Chernobyl and the latest Fukishima powerplant disasters are further highlights of the sort of devestation one can expect.
An even more alarming factor is that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were hit by rather primitive Atomic Weapons... modern weapons are more refined and Plutonium in particular is much more devastating.
Just to put things into perspective many visitors from the Allied armies who toured Hiroshima and Nagasaki suffered from the fallout and some men were sterilized from the high exposure.
We simply dont know enough about these weapons and all the tests dont take into account how long it takes for the effects to wear off... Figures vary and you dont know who to trust and frankly no sane person would want to push thier luck with such things.
Timelines vary from a few weeks to a few years and even a couple of centuries or more...
Such weapons deserve to be eradicated and I hate to sound so vile but I think anyone who thinks theres a need for these things should seriously look at themselves in the mirror and imagine the horror they wield.
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^^ It sends shivers down my spine. humanity doesnt deserve nuclear weapons or some other WMD.
i hope we will never have to use them on each other or anyone else.
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Sad state of affairs is that nobody trusts anybody anymore.
I long for a World where honour actually means something still. I remember back in my elders days the British allowed men to carry weapons and from my Homeland men still wear knives and guns, but they know what they are carrying. Nobody over there guts his guest at a banquet or shoots the fellow across the desk for being rude becuase it just dont happen.
There was a time a word of honour was everything Prisoners were treated with respect, even allowed to carry arms and wear thier uniforms. Not anymore.
And there are people who say that the old days were full of ignorance and bigotry, that may be true but if modernity brings terrors like Nukes to your doorstep then I would rather be living in the dark ages... and I mean that wholeheartedly.
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I am no defense expert but dont you think that a missile with max range 60km is a bit too under range for a nuclear bomb?
This was the puzzle piece missing from Pakistan's arsenal. Short range nuclear capable missiles are VERY IMPORTANT in use of low yield n'weapons. This is also important to keep India in check with its dream of "limited war" against Pakistan.
I hope Pakistan or India never has to use these weapons.
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I am no defense expert but dont you think that a missile with max range 60km is a bit too under range for a nuclear bomb?
600 km is the range needed for small tactical nuclear weapons, which would be used against battlefield targets, such as army regiments and artillery batteries. Long range missiles with the capacity to travel thousands of kilometers are intended for massacring civilians.
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^^ But we are talking about 60 km range here. or did u mean 60 km instead of 600.
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600 km is the range needed for small tactical nuclear weapons, which would be used against battlefield targets, such as army regiments and artillery batteries. Long range missiles with the capacity to travel thousands of kilometers are intended for massacring civilians.
Regardless of range anything that can kill will do so... it does not matter who it kills. Hence why Weapons of any kind should be limited to those who know them best and Nuclear weapons should be eradicated from the Planet.
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^^ But we are talking about 60 km range here. or did u mean 60 km instead of 600.
I think he meant 60K.
600K is not a short range weapon by any standards 600k is almost at the level of ICBM's Intercontinental Balistic Missiles which have a 1000k+ range
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^^ But we are talking about 60 km range here. or did u mean 60 km instead of 600.
Sorry, I meant 60km. Tactical nukes make a small explosion only. They start at being the equivalent of around 10 tons of TNT, being about 2000 times less destructive than the bomb that fell on Nagasaki (21 kilotons of TNT).
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Yeah but if you watch the Video I posted it's perfectly possible to use field artillery of Modern standards, 280mm is not huge for a field piece it's possible to yield explosions of 15 Kilotons. Thats massive destruction in a small area.
I think no Millitary objective is worth such destruction. Frankly even limited use of weapons like White Phosphorus and DU depleted Uranium are dangerous.
Not only are such weapons horribly effective against almost anything on the battlefield but they are almost impossible to control. Even one loose shot can lead to a firestorm and what possible Millitary objective could ever justify such an act?
No I think enoughs enough and the World's people must unite against all use of Inhumane weaponry.
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short range, long range, mid range - doesn't matter. What is victory for anyone if it meant killing all living organisms and rendering huge swathes of this limited planet uninhabitable for almost eternity and praying the wind never turns !
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^ My point exactly. :)
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short range, long range, mid range - doesn't matter. What is victory for anyone if it meant killing all living organisms and rendering huge swathes of this limited planet uninhabitable for almost eternity and praying the wind never turns !
That's exaggeration. Hiroshima and Nagaski were safely inhabitable shortly after their bombing. Only a nuclear explosion close to ground level could possible cause long-term radiation poisoning at a location.
And ground level bombing is not desireable because it is less destructive - half the detonation is directed straight into the ground, most of the remainder into the air, and only a bit off to the sides.
To maximise the amount of a city that is destroyed, and to ensure optimal fatalities, you need to detonate the bomb high up in the air as was done at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. This ensures that half the explosive power is turned into a semi spherical blast wave that spreads all around.
Such as air burst would also direact the most intense radiation into the air, which would disperse and minimise the amount of ground-level radiation, as well as minimising radioactive fallout.
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Neither India nor Pak are going to use a nuke ever (unless Pak's nukes are controlled by suicidal jehadis), because that means the end of all of Pak and most of India.
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Such as air burst would also direact the most intense radiation into the air, which would disperse and minimise the amount of ground-level radiation, as well as minimising radioactive fallout.
True but given the history of Nuclear weapons exagerations or no exagerations nobody can deny thier destructive powers and 99% of casualties are going to be Non Combatants.
Nuclear Weapons are the greatest terror ever unleashed.