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Some pakistani traitors also seem to miss the hidden millions being deposited in american banks to help thier economies whilst corruption increases in disgusting lengths e.g selling out thier own brothers and sisters...
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which Pakistani traitors? names and proof please
and umm where did you see corruption increasing?
gracias
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aray bhai if Musharraf wanted US to attack pakistan he would have easily made that happen 4 years ago.
Im not saying tribals are all farishteh, i am saying why is the pakistani army losing hundreds of its soldiers for america, when america has already, in fact on several occassions threatened pakistan? (sarcasm not intended)
aray bhai, musharraf wouldnt be as rich then...
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gracias
Its a statement that doesnt need proof. It is clear. You mentioned earlier that palestinians fired rockets into israel (because israelis bombed them) give me names and proof please. who is increasing the violence from the palestinian side?
muchos gracias
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dont dodge the point,
you made a statement that has no backing.
where are these accounts, who are these ppl
which ppl are you referring to as traitors.
cat got your tongue?
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I agree, why is pakistani army losing its soldiers for america. Let american forces just launch some aerial assaults on tribals and get it done and over with. No loss of life for our soldiers.
sadly its not just america’s war, terrorism and militants are a problem for Pakistan as well, its the ppl with this mindset that have been behind sectarian violence as well. so it is not just america’s problem, it is pakistan’s problem too.
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where are these accounts, who are these ppl which ppl are you referring to as traitors.
cat got your tongue?
Alhamdulilah my tongue is in my mouth. Unlike some people i dont crawl around on the floor for the cat to get my tongue!
Im not dodging any point! You are asking me for proof of my statement that musharraf is corrupt. Well it is pretty obvious when a man starts his work as president with a few businesses and ends up with millions when his salary wouldnt pay that much out to him. And the other money that goes missing? Other peoples accounts and foreign accounts...
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which people crawl around the floor? who are you referring to? 
who are these ‘some people’
no no no no, forget corruption,
I am askign who were these traitors you referrrd to. let me jog your memory..
the statement was
so who are these ‘some pakistani traitors’ who seem to miss the hidden millions.
please elaborate
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sadly its not just america's war, terrorism and militants are a problem for Pakistan as well, its the ppl with this mindset that have been behind sectarian violence as well. so it is not just america's problem, it is pakistan's problem too.
Well for someone to make such a statement would bring many to question are you a pakistani? You would actually want a foreign country to attack your country? Your as bad as musharraf if thats what you think. After the humiliating air strike against pakistan by america, and from accounts of some, other attacks you would think a general cares about his international space not to forget human civillian loss. Musharraf was given power over a much better person in the army by nawaz sharif. Something fishy about that? Your statement that this is a pakistani problem is laughable. There wasnt a fraction of the amount of problems that have arisen since america has arrived next door. It would be all hunky dory if american troops/people were dying in the numbers other people are dying, that way everyone would see how they react and stop all missions...
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Why did the people who today make up the Taliban, Al Qaida, JI, JUI and other so-called religious outfits sacrifice tens of thousands for America's war in Afghanistan in the 1980's?
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point is that tribals cooked up their list, whether the names were fake or the birthdates were different, it still means the list was not accurate.
with 43/44 still missing from govt listing, "locals" list can't be as much inaccurate. There are many people listed in govt. list without "ID" numbers and the age numbers are big there too. Lets see if anyone can get a hold of weapons picture.
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good so you see the issue at hand there, now, if you dont want US to attack, then you have to do something about it and the general did just that.
so there is a problem. u can not ignore it.. either Pakistan stops this, or US will.
So it is infact a pakistani problem, directly, and indirectly.
we have already seen what kind of issues can be created in a country when undocumented criminals start running rampant, we saw the issues that afghan drug dealers and arms dealers brought with them after the war with rusia and now that they have their own agendas and dellusions of greater purpose, they can impact society in many ways.
they are not good for our country..
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locals list is inaccurate by 37 so its almost 50% inaccurate to begin with.
now as far as training or planning you do not always need weapons, the planning could be for attacks in the future. etc etc etc
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which people crawl around the floor? who are you referring to? :) who are these 'some people'
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Il let you think about it. Your thought might be true! :)
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no no no no, forget corruption,
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Ermmm ok then!
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I am askign who were these traitors you referrrd to. let me jog your memory..
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Some pakistani traitors also seem to miss the hidden millions being deposited in american banks to help thier economies whilst corruption increases in disgusting lengths e.g selling out thier own brothers and sisters...
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Its ok i dont need reminding. But i will happily remind you what i already wrote down many times before.
I said some pakistani traitors refferring to the people who usually have a go at anyone with a different point of view (especially the ones who have learnt the art of "mullah" calling from thier low thinking american brothers and sisters, seperate to the free thinking americans) who seem to keep defending people they actually know little about. The hidden millions consist of pakistani money which is taken from pakistani people e.g tax etc and large sums of it is taken away into oblivion (from sources close to various people involved who admit what is going on anonymously, it has been known to be transferred in foreign accounts)
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so who are these 'some pakistani traitors' who seem to miss the hidden millions.
please elaborate
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For goodness sake! I dont know who is doing this otherwise i would have told everyone! use some of that akal you might have. All i know is of the leaked intelligence that comes on documentary shows!
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These people did not sacrifice anything for americans. They sacrificed for thier brothers and sisters in afghanistan...
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Oh get a clue please! This is a clear reference to Benazir Bhutto stashing away millions in foreign banks, Now WHO in Pakistan went to the United Nations to try and get all this stolen money back? Yes it was MUSHARAFF. Who in Pakistan has turned round the economy and reduced poverty? You have even contradicted yourself in your above silly statement. One only needs look at how corrupt the MMA are in the frontier to see what stealing the relgious parties would do. Even the MMA isnt going to be able to hold onto its majority in the frontier regions next election..
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Are you this stupid to not be able to see the point he is making? He is saying that Musharaff also is sacrificing Paki troops for the tribals, *by keeping the Americans out of the tribal areas. *
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all reports indicate that the number of deads is 80+, so infact govt listing is around 50% inaccurate :p
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That is a very factual point, and the government has done a very thorough job in releasing these names. It has now put the tribal accusers on the back foot, and now they have to refute the government's list, rather than just cooking up some names as they did. It has made them very foolish.
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so there is a problem. u can not ignore it.. either Pakistan stops this, or US will. So it is infact a pakistani problem, directly, and indirectly.
we have already seen what kind of issues can be created in a country when undocumented criminals start running rampant, we saw the issues that afghan drug dealers and arms dealers brought with them after the war with rusia and now that they have their own agendas and dellusions of greater purpose, they can impact society in many ways.
they are not good for our country..
Actually americans label the taliban as drug barons. The drug barons are the ones co operating with america to a point that it benifits them mostly eg getting talibanis off thier turf. Drug barons dont care about whats going on, they only care about the money they are making. The taliban want america out of afghanistan, especially when they are supporting general dostum a general who joined the russians during the soviet war and butchers civillians for no reason, never mind extremism, and is backed by many gangsters. You make your own mind up! Back to the point concerning pakistan, why should we lose our jawaans to some tribals when the tribals and the americans can fight each other? If we keep attacking them, then how can we not expect them to lose thier temper and attack us, and i bet you americans will take advantage of the help they are recieving, by getting people to leave bombs outside mosques to incite violence in exchange for money. Did you not see what went on in balouchistan?