Pakistan Speaks Out!

Khan saheb. What is a workable solution on kashmir you suggest? Indian separatists and insurgent groups do not blow themselves up in karachi. Pakistan mainly your army and ISI and some esteemed members of society give patronage to elements which kill indian civilians in cold blood. Please watch the channel 4 documentary on mumbai attacks..and read my post earlier in the thread on Hafiz saeed..

Which of indian groups do you see giving such sermons on pakistani civilians? Pakistan and Pakistanis need to take responsibility of this menace of jihad. According to Ahmed rashid there are people in pakistan's army more taliban then taliban themselves. Indians have extremist groups but none of them could ever come close to what you see in pakistan..So i do not agree with the parallel you cite. The incidents as you mention are a result of pakistan's state support for jihadis which brings a bad name to your nation and religion. See the esteemed list of nations now. India has more muslims, but india does not figure.

Yes this isn't in right spirit to stop the elderly or anyone to meet their relatives. The visa norms have been tightened now because of your countrymen Mr. Headley and Rana. Did you read the thread sir on someone here wanting to give them 'Nishaan-e-Haider' read it in 'chicago man involved in mumbai terrorism.' on world affairs. These two are the reasons why the norms are tighter now. Even more than they were after mumbai attacks. My father was born in pakistan occupied kashmir..I'd like to visit his vilage too..See how easy it is to put me on defensive and say india should not be doing this. In the documentary if you see it, the dead people on VT station had nothing to do with the politics. But your fellow countrymen so easily state 'more saeeds will be born'..The stark contrast here is india is trying to secure itself by stopping visas(which in case you mentioned isn't justifiable) while your countrymen threatening more attacks.

I edited my post to add some more after i reread your post. International mediation is no solution. Pakistan is the weaker side and it is difficult for international community to negotiate india on to table on kashmir. You see how the world leaders stay away from mediation. They do not have as much leverage on india. An economically prosperous pakistan will bring more respect to its views than an extremist terrorist haven.

The incidents are not isolated criminal activities. These jihadis are nurtured, trained and supported by a terror infrastructure that exists in pakistan. So I side with the indian government's position in principle.