Pakistan Speaks Out!

Wednesday, February 03, 2010

Gullalai Khan, 24-year-old, student, Khyber Medical College, Peshawar

“As a medical student I feel that it is extremely vital that the two countries bury the hatchet, and work together in the field of medicine. As India is very much ahead of us in terms of medical research, our practitioners and students can benefit greatly from their Indian counterparts, and maybe make a breakthrough by developing cures for those diseases which don’t have any at the moment.”

Alishay Adnan, 17-year-old, A-level student, The Lyceum School, Karachi

“Everyone knows that the Pakistani youth is simply crazy after Bollywood stars and movies. Every week, I and my friends go to the cinema to watch the latest Indian flick, and our bedroom walls have posters of Salman Khan and Hrithik Roshan pinned on them. Our mothers love to watch Indian dramas and our fathers like to delve in the past by watching old movies of Amitabh Bachan. We definitely need to be on friendly terms with India so that their actors can come to Pakistan and see for themselves the love and respect we have for them, and also to boost up our entertainment industry by acting in our plays and movies.”

Haya Fatima, 22-year-old, Masters student, Mass Communication, Karachi University

“Pakistan needs to be friends with India as we are facing a dire water shortage, and will continue to do so if relations between the two don’t flourish. All our major rivers pass through areas either owned or occupied by India; therefore it is extremely important that Pakistan is on friendly terms with India.”

Mariam Ahmed, 23, MBA Marketing student, Foundation of Advancement of Science and Technology-National University of Computer and Emerging Sciences (FAST-NU), Islamabad

“I wasn’t born when Pakistan got independence in 1947, or when the 1965 war took place. I opened my eyes when the relations between the two were hostile, and continue to be till this day. It amazes me that despite having the same culture, the same roots and even the same language, two nations which shared a history together are considered to be arch-rivals today.”

Danish Iqbal, 25, software test engineer, Mazik Pakistan (software house) Karachi

“India is far ahead of us in every sector. This includes the field of Information Technology (I.T). While Indian companies like Sonata deal directly with the software giant Microsoft, no Pakistani company has any direct linkage with them. Therefore, Pakistan needs to be friendly with India so that all our industries can prosper in the global market.”

Hamza Tariq, 21-year-old, student of BSc (Hons) Economics, Lahore University of Management Sciences (LUMS), Lahore

“Instead of letting differences harm both the countries, we should rather let what is common between us help in building an environment in which both can proper. It is important to release that economic efficiency is the most powerful tool today, and by having friendly relations, we can build a huge market in this region just like the European Union.”

Gaffar Mahmad, 19, cricketer, Turbat

“Pakistanis are as fanatical about cricket as Indians are. Isn’t that a reason enough that Pakistan needs India as a friendly neighbor? Cricket here is worshipped as much as it is in India. Every other house has a cricketer breeding in it. It is no hidden fact that in every cricket tournament, the biggest match is between the two countries. I would love to play in India, and would be ecstatic if they came to play in our homeland.”

Saad Mansoor, 22, Senior Accountant Trainee, Ernst and Young, Karachi

“If we want to be a truly democratic power, then we need to find partners in the democratic countries of the world. That list, it so happens, has India at its top, therefore, it is important that Pakistan has cordial relations with its neighbor.”

Huma Iqbal, 25-year-old, Editorial Coordinator, South Asia Magazine, Karachi

“Pakistan has to start making important strategic partners if not safe neighborhoods. The bilateral tie is very important for peace and stability in the region, for the settlement of the Kashmir Issue, for controversies regarding the dams, for the growing Indian economy, and most importantly for the new strategic nuclear partnership of India with the United States.”

Saif Rashid, 19, student Mechanical Engineering, Ghulam Ishaq Khan Institute of Engineering Sciences, Topi, NWFP

“Instead of accusing one another for hatching terrorist attacks on each other’s soil, we need to work together to fight against militants. Sadly, there have been several times when both governments came to the brink of war. Being nuclear-armed, we need to act sensibly as the peace of the entire region is dependent on us.”

Speak out

Interesting! I never knew Pakistanis felt this way.

Mods can move this thread if it does not belong here.

very positive..Thank you good to hear..as for indians..if pakistan just stops breeding saeeds..overwhelming majority inn the country will favour mutually beneficial relations. When indians went to pakistan for cricket series..all of them had love tales to tell about the hospitality of pakistani people..even the most fanatic nationalists will be toned down this way..

Saeeds and other will automatically die when the Kashmiries will get their right of self-determination... when Indian Army will stop shooting and killing the Kashmiri Youth.. these Saeeds will be part of forgotten history... yet i don't see anything positive and concrete from the other side of the border.. saeeds will continue to flourish... Saeeds are just a reaction of action taken by India and this reaction has been their for last 6000 years in different cultures, societies and nations... and will continue till dooms day...

true to your name..your army and nation has done much wrong around its neighbors..so does that mean they should start blowing themselves up among women and children in your cities? probably not..but that job has already been undertaken by your own mujahids..it's an evil so evil that it will end up destroying itself..

Pakistan will continue to burn with this thinking of yours..pakistanis will be strip searched at each airport and clubbed as they are now with likes of somalia and yemen..This attitude of killing civilians by exploding as Mr. Saeed continues to preach needs to change.. You don't favor it that's okay..

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Please don’t support these people they give your countrymen wrong employment opportunities

Pakistan Today: Front Page 8232003

The other day I came across just such an event: There was nothing unusual in the Friday sermon until a woman whose face was hidden behind a veil approached the prayer leader delivering the sermon. She was carrying her 18-month old son, Zabeeh-ullah in her lap. She gave the speaker, Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, a written note that read, “I am highly impressed by Hafiz Muhammad Saeed’s lecture on the holy war against anti-Muslim forces. In this scenario, it is my obligation as a staunch Muslim to offer everything I have for the cause of Islam and to fight the infidels. Therefore, I offer my son for this sacred mission.”

So u are saying that we should do what India says, and forget about Kashmir and Kashmiries, we should turn a blind-eye to killing of those and just pretend to be happy-go-nature... i am sorry but this is against the human nature and would not bring in the peace....

It is not us who have initiated the insurgencies in neigbouring countries, should i remind you off Mukti bahni, who was trained and funded by India back in late 60s... was that not hositility towards your neighbour and yet India is playing significant role in creating problems for Pakistan in Balochistan and FATA,,, may be India has and is doing it to promote peace and harmony but we are taking it as hostility...

wake up and smell the coffee your govt... your establishment and even your politician wins their election on the level of hatred against Pakistan and you are telling us what to do.. what an attitude....

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Are you reminded of kashmiris when few gunmen of hafiz saeed's trained army gun down people trying to board a train? Looks like you support this kind of jihad..If you show clear proof of how indian government is spreading unrest in your country..i'd be with you to condemn it..the proof that I have seen so far is uncircumcised bodies which Mr Zaid and Quraishi flaunt on their websites..

Wrong india's anti pakistan sentiments stir up only when your mercenaries murder us in cold blood. besides if you support jihad and employment which saeed has to offer to pakistan there isn't a point discussing peace efforts with you :-)..

Ya that myth will be sorted out soon... right now ur only living witness says in the court that he is not working for any Saeed or any terrorist outfit... what do you say now, i know you will only believe his earlier statements which were issued under police custody....

Regardless.... If you want to avoid this kind of shooting and do not want your politicians to create this kind of drama in every other election year to get sympathy for them from the hatred against Pakistan.. then you do need to resolve the Kashmir problem.. failing to do so.... many Hafiz Saeeds will born... and like I said earlier... this is happening from last 6/7000 years... and will continue to do so till the dooms day....

:D I see the drama on your streets everyday! peshawar 100+ women and children did drama so in islamabad..number of universities and markets..even volleyball matches all are actors..If you want your countrymen to be serious and not do this drama..you need to punish saeed..until then there is only drama on streets of pakistan..

Sorry to take such a stupid line of argument..I am against any civilian death for any reason..Only trying to show what you were trying to convey about your mercenaries who killed us!...Thanks

I think i have hitted the nail right

The Drama you are witnessing in our northern areas are produced by the your intelligence agencies... to whom you may see as the PEACE BIRDS...

Now none of these dramas are followed by the elections but the dramas we see in India, either it is attack of parliament or something like Mumbai attack... it only take place when the country is in election year...

Now, can you please tell me that other than Qasab's initial statement, how did India gets all the intelligence and names of Saeed etc...? the same Qasab has said that the statements are issued under police torture..

The Issue at hand is... There will and can be no peace between the two countries until they resolve their disputes.. any attempt of such peace initiative can be blown away by any 3rd party... that 3rd party can be the one who sells 47% of their weapons to both the countries... i guess if the issues are solved then who is going to buy weapons worth trillions of Dollars...and who is going to get kick backs and commissions on this

So what’s Indians response to these students??? " You are all responsible for Mumbai attacks, you killed 170 Indians, no peace with our biggest enemy" :slight_smile:

you can cook these theories any number as you want! no wonder people cook theories even when civilians die at hands of talibans inside your country..so it doesn't surprise me..

yes that's the irony here..the peacemaker countries tend to benefit the most so no one has interest in solving the issues. I am only trying to make a point that as long as Hafiz saeed and the likes will remain in pakistan indians will be not forthcoming on peace process..

Your view is understood as well (though not appreciated since i am an indian)..i wouldnt reply on the theories coz they hurt pakistan more than they hurt india..so please cook a bit more :)

No, these students are not terrorists :-) so anyone saying no to these students is falling to the line of extremists...I have seen few news clips of pakistanis treated in indian hospitals on a visitior visa..and also the good hosts pakistanis have been to indians in cricket series so people to people contact is important..

but i am one of those nationalists who say onus of this peace lies on pakistan..The day you see india nurturing groups which murder innocent pakistanis..this would reverse..until then pakistan has to mend its ways for any improvement on ground..people to people contacts should continue still

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The topic started very positively.
Unfortunately, it did not last long - we are back at our bickering & fighting.

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^^ so would be the case until we start on solid grounds, i.e. if Indians truly want/looking for peace between the two sides then they have to resolve their disputes first... otherwise any attempt of peace would not last long may it be this forum or peace talks between the two countries and higher level... i guess the results of 60 years of peace talks do support my and Pakistani stand...

That is exactly the reason that nothing positive has happened, and never will. Pakistanis are hell bent on interfering in Kashmir which Indians will not tolerate. The earlier Pakistan relaizes that, the better for it.

Pakistanis swallow Indian films, music, tv channels, programmes so easily little do they know that it gives a highly distorted version of the "indian dream" and it is successfully indoctrinating them. I dont see many Indians interested in Pakistani culture.

I think there needs to be peace but there will never be because the Indians will never accept Pakistan as a separate country and it will never give Kashmir its freedom.

India has made many advances but thats only for the minority elite. The majority poor have an wful life ad will never catch up as the poor are getting poorer. In decades to come India will have huge problems with population pressure, natural resource management, water issues, communal problems.

No it doesn't 60 years of war has only resulted in civilians losing their life for nothing.. What really do you want is the question? talking peace while nurturing terrorists and sending them to india..you do not expect indians to accept a peace talk while waiting for something deadlier to happen..

besides these groups are a menace for pakistan too...saeed and the likes recruit poor teenagers and turn them into murder machines..even if you stick on your view of freedom for kashmiris etc..you or anyone sane should not allow this future of their countrymen..

Hafiz saeed releases a magazine each month in which he prints the names of mercenaries sent to india. All of us know the reason for those mercenaries. People in india who have nothing to do with anything in kashmir or any of the faked propaganda on balochistan are victims..Supporting this stand of 'more saeed's will be born' and 'we will feed them with what they need' is exactly what flames indians..and do not blame me..I am only carrying the bitter message...

Pakistanis do much better at people level than indians as visible above..I am certain any such poll in india will be extreme responses

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Pakistanis swallow Indian films, music, tv channels, programmes so easily little do they know that it gives a highly distorted version of the "indian dream" and it is successfully indoctrinating them. I dont see many Indians interested in Pakistani culture.

I think there needs to be peace but there will never be because the Indians will never accept Pakistan as a separate country and it will never give Kashmir its freedom.

India has made many advances but thats only for the minority elite. The majority poor have an wful life ad will never catch up as the poor are getting poorer. In decades to come India will have huge problems with population pressure, natural resource management, water issues, communal problems./QUOTE]

You are beating Algore theories. Go and join with him and you will have a chance winning Pakistani noble prize.