Re: Pakistan’s first sect-free mosque calls for end to discrimination
Why can't molvies explain things simply and in concise manner?
Re: Pakistan’s first sect-free mosque calls for end to discrimination
Recognition is viewing the individual in matters that make them unique Accepting is to associate yourself with another on some basis that is shared between them
There is no need to remove "recognition" in order to promote "acceptance" - It is quite possible to "accept" yet recognise difference too.
That is mutual respect - this comes from education, not from denying people their right to be different.
Yes, plz psyah, as ButtSb said, there are people like me who have limited knowledge of the religion and philosophy and often get lost in what you are trying to say.
My understanding in English of what you are trying to say is this:
"Well, there are people with different opinions on interpretations of Islam and how to perform particular rituals and prayers of the religion. Now, if there is a mosque which does not recognize these differences, then it would be very difficult to operationalize the rituals and prayers in a uniform way."
Is my understanding correct?
BTW, I have very basic knowledge of Islam, most of which was gathered from Jumma khubta in our local mosque where I grew up. I normally do not like traditional maulvis but the prayer leader there made sense to me. One thing I remember and appreciate was that he once said, "I do not care where you put your hands while you pray, on your chest, on your navel, on your sides.... you might even tie your hands behind you but the most important thing for you is to believe in your heart that you present yourself before God and you are praying to Him, pleading to Him and asking for His forgiveness... if you are able to do that, HE would like you regardless where your hands are.... but if your heart is not there, it wouldn't really matter where your hands are."
Re: Pakistan’s first sect-free mosque calls for end to discrimination
Yes, plz psyah, as ButtSb said, there are people like me who have limited knowledge of the religion and philosophy and often get lost in what you are trying to say.
My understanding in English of what you are trying to say is this:
"Well, there are people with different opinions on interpretations of Islam and how to perform particular rituals and prayers of the religion. Now, if there is a mosque which does not recognize these differences, then it would be very difficult to operationalize the rituals and prayers in a uniform way."
Is my understanding correct?
BTW, I have very basic knowledge of Islam, most of which was gathered from Jumma khubta in our local mosque where I grew up. I normally do not like traditional maulvis but the prayer leader there made sense to me. One thing I remember and appreciate was that he once said, "I do not care where you put your hands while you pray, on your chest, on your navel, on your sides.... you might even tie your hands behind you but the most important thing for you is to believe in your heart that you present yourself before God and you are praying to Him, pleading to Him and asking for His forgiveness... if you are able to do that, HE would like you regardless where your hands are.... but if your heart is not there, it wouldn't really matter where your hands are."
Yes ...
I believe such an Imam will say that as above, but at the same time will himself be positioning his own hands in one place and do certain things in certain ways. If we are charmed by his example then it should bring us to recognise that his way is worth following, not necessarily in positioning of the hands. ... Rather use his focus of the inward to take priority over the outward. If he recognised that someone was doing something wrong ... He would first ask who they are following and then proceed to send them back to their teachers to get more knowledge. It is quite possible for a Hanafi to correct a Hanbali on a matter that concerns the Hanbali fiqh, but the Hanbalite is not doing it properly. Rather than giving his own Hanafi ruling ... It would be more wise to send him back to a Hanbali teacher.
"I am no authority over anyone ... Except for those who put me in that position by asking for my advice or my ruling"... This is the position that every decent Imam will have ...
Re: Pakistan’s first sect-free mosque calls for end to discrimination
Why can't molvies explain things simply and in concise manner?
I think the matter is not a simple one ... But I did give a concise explanation and I am not a molvi ...
Re: Pakistan’s first sect-free mosque calls for end to discrimination
I agree with psyah. I wouldn't pray in a masjid like this one because I'd be worried about the validity of my salat. What would be fine is if my masjid (or any masjid for that matter) welcomed everyone without trying to follow a little everything that everyone does.