What are the differences between these two Punjab?
Why is Indian Punjab more developed than Pakistani Punjab is this true?
Is Pakistani Punjab larger than Indian Punjab?
I am all in for a long discussion on this topic
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When I was your age, I didn't even know there were Punjabi muslims! I thought all Punjabi were Hindus or Sikhs.
But I digress.
Re: Pakistan Punjab vs Indian Punjab
When I was your age, I didn't even know there were Punjabi muslims! I thought all Punjabi were Hindus or Sikhs.
But I digress.
Mainly because Sikhs ruled Punjab after Mughals and Afghans thats why the perception
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Possible. More my ignorance. I simply thought all of Punjab came to India. We didn't have Internet during those days. So we all lived in our bubble. At least I did.
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You opened it at a good time, as I'm going to start a book 'Amongst the Sikhs: Reaching for the Stars' by Dr Surjit Kaur. Its about case of studies of prosperity of Sikh families around the globe. I believe, those NRI Sikhs have courage and will to return to their homeland (Punjab) and serve it, which is a rare phenomenon in Pakistani Punjab. jo gaya so gaya.
Indian Punjab was divided into 3 states. Punjab (Punjabi speaking Sikhs), Haryana (Hindi speaking) and Himachal Pardesh (PahaRi speaking).
Area of Indian Punjab: 50,362 km2 (19,445 sq mi)
Area of Pakistani Punjab: 205,344 km2 (79,284 sq mi)
so Pakistani Punjab is 4 times larger than Indian Punjab.
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Possible. More my ignorance. I simply thought all of Punjab came to India. We didn't have Internet during those days. So we all lived in our bubble. At least I did.
Punjab is divided intro two parts
In Pakistan Lahore is the capital of Punjab
In India Chandigarh is the capital
Re: Pakistan Punjab vs Indian Punjab
You opened it at a good time, as I'm going to start a book 'Amongst the Sikhs: Reaching for the Stars' by Dr Surjit Kaur. Its about case of studies of prosperity of Sikh families around the globe. I believe, those NRI Sikhs have courage and will to return to their homeland (Punjab) and serve it, which is a rare phenomenon in Pakistani Punjab. jo gaya so gaya.
Indian Punjab was divided into 3 states. Punjab (Punjabi speaking Sikhs), Haryana (Hindi speaking) and Himachal Pardesh (PahaRi speaking).
Area of Indian Punjab: 50,362 km2 (19,445 sq mi) Area of Pakistani Punjab: 205,344 km2 (79,284 sq mi)
so Pakistani Punjab is 4 times larger than Indian Punjab.
I always thought that Indian Punjab was bigger
The sad thing is that even though its 3 times bigger than Indian one but not that was developed
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I always thought that Indian Punjab was bigger
The sad thing is that even though its 3 times bigger than Indian one but not that was developed
Indian will claim it to be due to democracy. Though Indian Punjab saw political movements like Khalistan and riots of 1984 (central government supported), but just within 3 decades, there are no signs that there was a separatist movement there.
Interesting to note that Punjabi cuisine and music is globally representative of Indian cuisine and music. Sikhs are only 2% of Indian population (near 25 Million). Now consider impact of 50-60% Punjabis in Pakistan.
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Indian will claim it to be due to democracy. Though Indian Punjab saw political movements like Khalistan and riots of 1984 (central government supported), but just within 3 decades, there are no signs that there was a separatist movement there.
Interesting to note that Punjabi cuisine and music is globally representative of Indian cuisine and music. Sikhs are only 2% of Indian population (near 25 Million). Now consider impact of 50-60% Punjabis in Pakistan.
Not sure if he Punjabi cuisine and music is representative of Indian cuisine and music.
While Sikhs are 2 pct of India popukation, Punjab also has Hindu Punjabis. Probably in equal amount.
I also understand Punjab has better access to water than other parts of India. Thus having more agriculture output.
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What are the differences between these two Punjab?
Why is Indian Punjab more developed than Pakistani Punjab is this true?
Is Pakistani Punjab larger than Indian Punjab?
I am all in for a long discussion on this topic
Indian Punjab did have Mr.Bhindranwale.Did you have any?
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The general perception of Indian cuisine remained so. BhangRa is most popular in foreign lands. Punjabi singers like Daler Mehdi and now Honey Singh topping music charts and doing more concerts outside India than any other singer. Though in recent times, people from other communities became active to introduce their cuisine globally, when you say Indian dhaba in foreign lands, most people might get an image of Sardar ji. Recently, I read a review about a book ‘Eating India’ by a Bengali lady and it says:
Just another incident that I read in Khushwant Singh’s book about Aveek Sarkar (A Bengali and owner of the Telegraph). Mr Singh observed that Sarkar never invited anyone to his home and entertained his friends in restaurant. so Mr Singh poked him that 'You Bengalis don’t have a cuisine besides machher jhol, rasgollas and msihti. He provoked by saying that though Calcutta got French, Italian, Chinese, Mughlai restaurant, one can’t find Bengali cuisine there (in Mr Singh’s words at that there were none, but later they introduced). This earned Mr Singh an invitation at Sarkars home where his wife went out of way to prove that there were more Bengali dishes as compared to what Mr Singh thought.
Regarding Hindu Punjabi, Punjabi population including them reaches 27 Million (google says so) so Sikhs forms around 90% of Punjabi population of India. May be Punjabi Speaking Hindus owned Hindi in same way as Pakistani Punjabis owned Urdu.
Re: Pakistan Punjab vs Indian Punjab
Indian will claim it to be due to democracy. Though Indian Punjab saw political movements like Khalistan and riots of 1984 (central government supported), but just within 3 decades, there are no signs that there was a separatist movement there.
Interesting to note that Punjabi cuisine and music is globally representative of Indian cuisine and music. Sikhs are only 2% of Indian population (near 25 Million). Now consider impact of 50-60% Punjabis in Pakistan.
India had to deal with Khalistan movement because it was running beyond limits ,tansgressing everything and having it's fantasy people across the border as well and it was threatening India's national unity.So the government had to act.
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okay. Now don’t turn it to another Pakistan Vs India (raat ko khwab main ISI nazar aata hai) thread 
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Nope.It is over and that issue is a thing of the past. 
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From what I know, Pakistani Punjab is a lot bigger both population and geographical wise. Although I agree, Indian Punjabis are more hardcore when it comes to there culture then Pakistani Punjabis but OP what makes you think Indian Punjab is more advanced than Pakistani Punjab? Can you provide some examples.
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Pakistani Punjab is way bigger than Indian Punjab. As far as the development goes I am not sure, haven't visited the east. But I doubt it would be way ahead.
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Indian Punjab’s farmers are more well off than their Pakistani counterparts. In an Agriculture society it counts.
Punjab farmers better off in India than Pakistan : Business, News - India Today
It is not that the Pakistan’s Punjab has nothing to offer. It has a rich network of canals and the Chenab and Jhelum rivers flowing out of Jammu and Kashmir carry plenty of water. There are also a lot of kinnow orchards which export fruit to the Gulf through the sea route and are reported to be doing a good business.
However, the difference in the level of prosperity is reflected in the size of the houses in Indian villages which are much bigger and sport a concrete finish. On the Pakistan side, villages still have some mud houses and there are more houses with a mere brick finish.
Besides, cars are a common sight in the villages of India’s Punjab but one only occasionally gets a glimpse of them in the villages on the other side.
Apart from the income of the farmers, the cost of buying a car such as a Suzuki’s Maruti 800 or Alto in Pakistan is more than three times that in India and, therefore, not easily affordable.
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From what I know, Pakistani Punjab is a lot bigger both population and geographical wise. Although I agree, Indian Punjabis are more hardcore when it comes to there culture then Pakistani Punjabis but OP what makes you think Indian Punjab is more advanced than Pakistani Punjab? Can you provide some examples.
As a minority in India, Punjabi's in India are far more aware of their distinctiveness, and are more sensitive of the prospect off having their culture diluted and marginalized by greater India. Pakistani Punjabis being an overwhelming majority take their Punjabi-ness for granted as there is no perceived threat to their heritage as such. So while Sikhs feel compelled to protect their heritage, Pakistani Punjabis do not feel the need to do the same. So the hardcore aspect of Indian Punjab stems from the inherent insecurity of a minority culture. Indian Punjabis have to maintain their culture in its most pristine form, otherwise they would lose it. And it didnt help that most Punjabis went to Pakistan, leaving the remaining Punjabis a small minority in greater India..
Re: Pakistan Punjab vs Indian Punjab
As a minority in India, Punjabi's in India are far more aware of their distinctiveness, and are more sensitive of the prospect off having their culture diluted and marginalized by greater India. Pakistani Punjabis being an overwhelming majority take their Punjabi-ness for granted as there is no perceived threat to their heritage as such. So while Sikhs feel compelled to protect their heritage, Pakistani Punjabis do not feel the need to do the same. So the hardcore aspect of Indian Punjab stems from the inherent insecurity of a minority culture. Indian Punjabis have to maintain their culture in its most pristine form, otherwise they would lose it. And it didnt help that most Punjabis went to Pakistan, leaving the remaining Punjabis a small minority in greater India..
That's very interesting. I guess this extra effort to preserve their roots and identity has paid off since like Muqawwee brother has stated, foreigners perception of India is mostly colored by Punjabi culture.
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Prosperity in Indian Punjab could be due to their diaspora as well. More Indian Punjabis are outside the country as compared to Pakistan proportion wise, and that plays a big part in prosperity as well. Case study is Mirpur in AJK, where you can find big houses and shiny shopping centers all propelled by foreign money. IN Pakistani Punjab the cities are growing, a few years back I happened to travel to Islamabad through GT road and was really impressed by Industry and Furniture shops all the way through small and big towns. As far as agriculture i concerned I agree Indian Punjab is the bread basket of India and has remained for the past many decades. As far as the cost of buying cars is concerned thats more due to the hyper inflation which the country is witnessing during the past decade, more of policy flaws on the federel level.