Pakistan plans to ask for sanctions on India.

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I wonder if the whining govt. of India will allow their team to play against Pakistan :slight_smile:

Pakistan plans to call on cricket’s governing body to impose sanctions on India if it refuses to compete against them in Test matches.
The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) will push its case at a meeting of the International Cricket Council’s (ICC) executive board on Saturday - the day before the World Cup final.

“We want the matter to be taken up seriously because India’s refusal to play us is hurting the game in the region,” PCB director Chishty Mujahid said.

The Indian government has banned its cricketers from playing Pakistan since June 2000 because of an on-going row over the disputed territory of Kashmir.

But the teams have been allowed face each other in multi-nation events like the World Cup where India downed their neighbours in a group match on 1 March.

India are scheduled to tour Pakistan for a three-Test series next month, but the visit is unlikely to take place.

India already are committed to playing a one-day series in Bangladesh in mid-April, also featuring South Africa.

The PCB last year suffered huge financial losses after New Zealand, the West Indies and Australia all cancelled tours to the country on security grounds.

And a planned one-day series to replace India’s tour has failed to materialise, with England and Zimbabwe both turning down invitations.

“The writing is on the wall, the Indians will not be coming to Pakistan, although we have not had any official word from them,” Mujahid said.

India last played a Test match in Pakistan in January 1990.

But Pakistan toured India in 1999 despite threats from Hindu fundamentalists to disrupt the trip.

Earlier this month, Indian cricket chief Jagmohan Dalmiya urged the government to allow the tour of Pakistan to go ahead.

“If India do not play against Pakistan, the equilibrium of world cricket will be severely affected because the world Test championship cannot be decided,” Dalmiya wrote to sports minister Vikram Verma.

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Pakistan will be right to ask that .

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New Zealand, West Indies, Australia, Zimbabwe, India and England - all of them said NO to coming and playing in Pakistan. Will PCB request sanctions against all these countries?

The PCB has no interest in playing India - they simply find this another cookie point slam on India. They know very well that such statements on their part bring childing glee to the hearts of immature anti-India gadhas.

On the other hand, the BCCI has been lobbying the GOI to let them play - so if PCB really wants to play India, they should shut up and work with BCCI instead of releasing inflammatory statements.

I bet some some general or colonel gets a smile and a pat for this.

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Come on friend don't make me laugh, like I have said hundred times, the other countries you mentioned doesn't want to play Pakistan because of security scares, on the other hand India doesn't want to play for a completely different reason.

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New Zealand, West Indies, Australia, Zimbabwe, India and England - all of them said NO to coming and playing in Pakistan. Will PCB request sanctions against all these countries
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I would like to know when did Zimbabwe and England refused to come to Pakistan.

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On the other hand, the BCCI has been lobbying the GOI to let them play - so if PCB really wants to play India, they should shut up and work with BCCI instead of releasing inflammatory statements.

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Actually if you read the article carefully (which I know you didn't) You would see that the PCB want sanctions on India not BCCI.

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*The PCB last year suffered huge financial losses after New Zealand, the West Indies and Australia all cancelled tours to the country on security grounds.

And a planned one-day series to replace India’s tour has failed to materialise, with England and Zimbabwe both turning down invitations*

This passage isfrom the starter post right here in this thread.

And what’s that last one? PCB appeals to ICC to sanction India and not BCCI? How do they do that? Send a letter by courier to ABV? :smack: kahan kahan sae aajaathae hein!

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How :wink: and what kinda ? economic , political or social :hehe:

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^ may be they’ll impose sanctions on Indian players? No chocolate milk during drinks…:hehe: :ahaa: :bhangra: and no sixers on Shoaib for the 1st 3 balls! :bailan:

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:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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sure.. india can live without icc but can icc survive without india? :hehe:

Munna

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A sure case of inflated ego and over estimation of one’s importance. :rolleyes:

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Ehsan bhai , there is element of truth in what he says. See the sponsorship percent from India in WC’03. And sure, you cant ignore 600 million odd audiance from India!

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India couldn't afford sanctions by ICC either.

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it is not overinflated ego. this is called realism.
South african cricket survived the decades of interantional ban. then why do u think that india cannot survive a ban by the icc. if icc bans india from international cricket, i feel that the biggest gainer would be indian cricket because indian cricket stars will be forced to play in the local tourneys raising the standard of the game.
and the biggest loser would be icc as it stands to lose about 70% of its revenue. all icc dreams of spreading cric throughout the world would lie in tatters.
so i stand by my statement. put your counter-argument. dont just make statements. justify your stand.

Munna.

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Before the money came into Indian cricket, ICC was surviving, so was cricket and so was the game. Yes, it would be difficult times but no one is indispensible which is what you are trying to project. ICC and cricket can and will survive without India if such an occassion arose, even though I would not wish India to be isolated in world cricket. I never said India cannot survive the ban, so dont read too much into what is written.

Therefore before making bloated statements, THINK.

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munnabhai, the flaw in your argument is that the ICC is trying to raise the profile of the game, that's why it uses the money to spread cricket throughout the world - for the good of the game.

India's stance is bad for the game in general, bad for the public, not just fans of India and Pakistan but cricket fans all over the world who love to see these sides clash.

Ask any neutral fan from England, Australia or wherever and you know the answer.

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The other countries have not toured pakistan due to security fears, howver in the case of India, its government has actually banned them from playing in Pakistan so the government has actually stepped in and stopped india from playing.
I'm sure you will agree this is totally different.

As for the sanctions i believe yes india should have sanctions imposed on them and also believe that apart from cricket sanctions, other sanctions should also be imposed on them.

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*Originally posted by ehsan: *
Before the money came into Indian cricket, ICC was surviving, so was cricket and so was the game. Yes, it would be difficult times but no one is indispensible which is what you are trying to project. ICC and cricket can and will survive without India if such an occassion arose, even though I would not wish India to be isolated in world cricket. I never said India cannot survive the ban, so dont read too much into what is written.

Therefore before making bloated statements, THINK.
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dont flame me. i am just making a realistic assessment of the situation. icc cannot ban india because it needs all the revenue it can get regardless of the source.
that india refuses to play pakistan is not a decision of the cricket body of india. it is a stand forced by politics and icc cannot blame the bcci for that. both icc and indian cricket can survive without each other. but then survival is not the aim here. both need each other to flourish. and this goal cannot be sacrificed for something that bcci can do nothing about.
one more thing is that icc cannot ask indian govt to resume cricketing ties with india. this is a matter between govts. and icc can hardly interfere. hope that clarifies my thoughts further.

Munna.

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Munney - Nothing is bigger than the game, Not Sachin, Not India and not even ICC. I am really sad to see such an arrogant attitude of an indian cricket fan. I, more than any Indian on this forum, support Indian govt’s decision to boycott Pakistan, but I dont think it is good for Indian Cricket. And India and Indian Cricket will be the Ultimate losers in case ICC decides to Ban India.

Your point about Indian domestic cricket benefiting from the ban does not hold any ground because First of all no Indian is Interested in watching Domestic Cricket and second Sachin et all are stars because of their performance against International Teams. Please Dont tell me Sachin & Co. Scoring 1000s of runs on dead pitches against pedestrian bowlers is going to benefit the Indian domestic Cricket or Improve it in anyway.

I also dont buy that ICC will be the biggest loser - I am sure World Cups will go as usual, Like they went without SA, They will have sponsors like they had in 75,79,83,92 and 99.

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Munney - Nothing is bigger than the game, Not Sachin, Not India and not even ICC. I am really sad to see such an arrogant attitude of an indian cricket fan. I, more than any Indian on this forum, support Indian govt's decision to boycott Pakistan, but I dont think it is good for Indian Cricket. And India and Indian Cricket will be the Ultimate losers in case ICC decides to Ban India.

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for me india is bigger than the game. please dont pass judgements on others without understanding their views.

if not cricket, there are other games. and banning india from world cricket will surely bring back life into other sports like hockey, tennis, football, kabbaddi.

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Your point about Indian domestic cricket benefiting from the ban does not hold any ground because First of all no Indian is Interested in watching Domestic Cricket and second Sachin et all are stars because of their performance against International Teams. Please Dont tell me Sachin & Co. Scoring 1000s of runs on dead pitches against pedestrian bowlers is going to benefit the Indian domestic Cricket or Improve it in anyway.

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why do u think no indian is interested in watching domestic cricket? the only reason is too much of international cricket. if no one agrees here, i dont see a point in discussing with him/her. i for one follow domestic cricket keenly. and not playing international cricket does not mean that u cannot reform the existing setup. on the contrary, the reforms become more urgent because the attention domestic cricket will attract.

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I also dont buy that ICC will be the biggest loser - I am sure World Cups will go as usual, Like they went without SA, They will have sponsors like they had in 75,79,83,92 and 99.
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if not icc, then who will be the great loser. where will the revenues come from. if india stays away from international cricket, then u will find sponsors queuing up for the domestic matches. true, icc will hold the world cups and other tourneys. but noton the same scale that is being done now. it will be set back at least by one decade.

Munna.

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munna - don't forget all thos "sponsors" were about to pull the plug after india's humiliating loss to australia. So just having a billion people won't cut it for the indian team. they not only have to perform well but also against big countries.

I think asif makes some very good points.