Pakistan is NOT a South Asian Nation

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Hey Mr. X,

I don't like or recommend use of this crappy urdu. And there are parts of India like UP and Bihar where people speak excellent urdu. Luckwanis for instance will stack their urdu against anybody's

L8R.

^ :rolleyes: The only reason (in case you haven’t polished up on your history lately) that Lukhnow folks, etc. (majority Muslims) speak such good Urdu is due to their conquest by the Mughals, God bless their souls, who introduced the proper way of speaking Urdu and their traditions to these regions of India a few centuries back.

this has to be the funniest post of the day. :hehe:

the mughals didnt bring urdu, it happened far away from mongol heartland, in UP, in and around lucknow, dilli and avadh. and when people started speaking urdu, the farsi speakers called them saalay tapori log.

and btw, most pakistanis have horrible punjabi-ized urdu enunciation except for the blackie hindu-lookalike karachiwalay.

also funny is the fact that pakistanis dont speak any greek although they are more greek than indian on this thread. :hehe:

Lol. these farsis sound more tapori than the damn taporis :hehe:

Farsi nahin Xtreme..voh toh phir bhi humaray jaisey hain...voh saaley sikander ki aulad.

Well yeah…keep shipping those marathi films to Iran and who knows? The next ayatollah might rap out his next fatwa in Tapori…apun jaisa :smokin:

Queer,

Thank God there is someone who knows how urdu was born. Just as an addon, orginally urdu was called jaban-e-horde meaning the language of hordes (the word horde meaning the same). Yes it did originate in MP, UP and norhtern India and mughlas had nothing to do with it. As I recall mughlas tried to run their courts in Farsi as for them Farsi was jabaan-e-khaas and urdu was jabaan-e-aam. I guess Urdu beat farso out of India and it is still very well spoken in northern India. Yeh sirf ham dakkhan ke log hain ke voh itne nirlajj (that's besharam) hain ke jo urdu ko apun tapun ki jabaan baaante hain.

^yaara, aap j ka istamall jara kam kia karain. Thanx.

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Lollllllzian, ham bhi yehi kehny waaly thy.

Panjdaria, the term asian consists of people originating from asia, hence ASIAn. Pakistanis are asian, not middle eastern. Dont let "hip" or uneducated ethnic categorization confuse you, you're both asian and stupid.

So it was the Moghuls who brought Urdu in the sub continent? I must say, Im very impressed by your knowledge about Pakistan, throughout this thread. I think you should have been my Pak Studies ki ustani jee, then maybe all latinos here would have agreed with Islamabad on the fact that we have nothing to do with Indians. We are Greeks, or Arabs if the former sounds too far-fetched?

Why are you misquoting me? When did i say WE have nothing to do with indians? If I speak for myself yes I have nothing to do with Indians, in culture, food, dress and everything. You may have a lot in common with them, so be happy with it. Many would agree while many would disagree with you. So be happy about the situation. Maybe one day, the ones like you would end up being part of a country in East and ones like me would end up somewhere in huge country in west. PEACE:flower1:

Isloo uncle, unlike you, I dont want to become part of this so called country in the East or West, Im all for Pak, but then again, I do not deny our history, culture, language, heritage, language. This dramabazi of ‘we have more in common with arabs than indians’ is pathetic, and its having a negative effect on the way you think. The other day you were laughing over the fact that people in India die of AIDS. You hate them so much fine, but be who you are, dont pretend to be someone you arent. This thread has derailed, I dont think I can add anything else here.

^ Thanks and salam.

^ Islamabad, that is true....most of the Indian guppies on this site despise Pakistan and Islam from what I have noticed. It's so sad!

Sweetpie, five greeks raping a few chicks 2000 years ago in the area called present day chakwal doesn’t mean that the entire village is of Greek descent. When you go to Greece, make sure you register with the authorities there, your supposed greek heritage will do you no good. :flower1:

Arvind, I’ve seen Hindus in Karachi myself. Oh never mind, his comment which I’m responding to has been deleted.

Anyway, this thread is getting quite silly. :mudhosh:

Ahuh…well ultimately :jhanda:

We ain't no GREEK gods!! Shiz' we all sand niggaz!! and DAMN PROUD of IT!

Btw Mats…have more time to respond to you now than earlier…

I have never once said that the entire district of Chakwal, or the entire Punjab, or the entire Pakistan (or what-have-you!) is “Greek.” This “Greekification” that you throw around left and right mockingly is entirely misunderstood in view of what I say and you know it. Obviously the Greek generals of the day that were busy running around waging wars and conquering the lands of northern (what is now) Pakistan and the surrounding areas (which spill into northern India) either 1) died due to famine, disease, weather conditions, etc. 2) returned to their native lands west of this region or 3) settled down in this geographic area, married the local girls, and bore children.

Even say for example a 1/3 of Alexander and Ptolemy’s armies chose option #3, the chances of any given person of Punjabi, Pathan, or Kashmiri descent today having Greek blood (even small traces of it) are strong because the Hellenistic era flourished for almost 400 years in this region after Alexander’s conquest. “Greeks” from modern-day Macedonia, Greece, and Turkey actively traded with this region, introduced art and coinage to the region, and imposed Greek language and dress on the locals in everyday life. The Greek influence was tremendous.

On the same track, chances of any Punjabi, Pathan, Kashmiri, etc. person having blood tracing to Persians, Afghans, Turks, Arabs, Mongols (Bactrians, Scythians, Kushan, Huns, Aryans) are much greater in comparitive terms since these cultures were derived from a much closer geographic proximity than the Greeks and thrived much closer on the historical timeline to our era than the Greek culture.

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