Yes…according to Konica Asia is actually Greater China. Which is of course part of Greater Pakistan making it a middle eastern country inhabited by Greeks and penguins 
Konica “Key kiya Kehnaay”
the reason I separated race from geography is that diff races could live in the same geography, some may be the original inhabitants others may have later arrivals. if someone says he is south african..could he not be white?
additionally, what is the definition of caucasian, i think ppl have the wrong definition here. so lets refer to this _> http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=caucasian
In short Pakistanis can be of diff races or combinations of them, surely a makrani, a pathan and a bengali are not the same.
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I would agree with that....
Besides,Culturally Middle East is an entire different world compared to Pakistan....Other then religion & other religious affiliations, we are a completely different lot...
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After the debacle of 1971 Lapierre had said, "aside from their common faith in Allah, were Punjabis and Bengalis as different as Finns and Greeks".
Re: Pakistan is NOT a South Asian Nation
Technically, the term for us is "Caucasoid." That is also the term for Indians, etc. But in any case, that is a moronic term because it makes us sound like some mutant race.
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I would like to bring a very important misconception that almost all Pakistanis have, i.e. being a South Asian country.
By all means (historical, cultural, traditional, ethnicall) Pakistan is not a south asian nation.
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And where is the evidence to suggest this?
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Every time I see a profile of a Pakistani citizen, I see they have checked "Asian" as their ethnicity. I believe this is wrong. It is true that Pakistan is situated in Asia, but to put it under South Asian culture and ethnicity, that is incorrect. I can challenge any one to prove me wrong otherwise.
We must not use the term Asian or South Asian, when desribing ourself. If you live in US, the term "Asian" means orientals, like Chinese, Japanese etc... Americans do not consider you Asian, but rather Middle Eastern.
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So what? They're wrong. Instead of correcting them we should define ourselves by their mistake?
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Anyone who lives in US would agree with me.
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Wrong.
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I would stress that all Pakistanis must describe themself as either part of middle east or West Asian and ethnicity "Caucasian". That is the true definition.
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Again, you haven't supported that claim.
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Thank You.
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You're welcome.
this is a good article about national identity
It is
to be noted that the oil-rich Arab states sharply
differentiate between their indigenous Arab populations and
other Muslims. It is virtually impossible for
non-indigenous Muslims to acquire citizenship of these
countries or to inter-marry with the local population or
set up independent business or own property.
Consequently, notwithstanding all the high-flown talk about
Islamic brotherhood, it is the Germanic model of blood and
descent which is the principle basis of citizenship and
nationhood.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_15-2-2004_pg3_2
Give us a break.
I’m surprised people even replied to this joker.
Pakistan a Middle Eastern/Central Asian country??? Yeah focking right, even Afghanistan which is more towards the west and more caucasian is considered a South Asian nation.
What’s with trying to be more exotic and not accepting who you are?
We’re South-Asians/Desis and always will be. All of South-Asia/Desiland has a common culture to some extent, India and Pakistan more than anyone else, the two are inseparable. The Pakistani Arab wanna bes and Indian extremist Hindus/Sikhs can deny it all they like but Pakistani Muslims are exactly the same racial stock as some Indians. I can’t tell the difference between a Paki and a Brahmin, we have converts at the Mosque and if they hadn’t told me I would never have known they are Indians, we Pakis have this image of Indians/Hindus being all short and dark which gives us a false sense of superiority, it’s not always the case.
The only things we have in common with the Middle East is religion, brown skin and dark hair/eyes.
- Anthropology Of or being a major human racial classification traditionally distinguished by physical characteristics such as very light to brown skin pigmentation and straight to wavy or curly hair, and including peoples indigenous to Europe, northern Africa, western Asia, and India. No longer in scientific use. See Usage Note at race1.
Re: Pakistan is NOT a South Asian Nation
Indeed! :k: Finally someone who knows what he/she is talking about.
Pakistan is geographically located to the left top portion of India and bordering Afghanistan and Iran. Our ethnicity for the large part is in fact originated from Mongols, Huns, Aryans, Greeks, Arabs, varied other ethnicities, and of course local native ethnicities as well. In addition, our culture although it corporates elements of Indian traditions and customs, is heavily influenced by the above-mentioned ethnicities who brought their heritage with them upon the numerous invasions of the land over the centuries.
Here in the US, on form and stuff I never mark myself as Asian because as Panjdaria correctly stated, Asians in this country are synonymous with Orientals (ie. Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, etc.) I either mark Middle-Eastern or Caucasian, NOT because I have light skin but because these are the categories that most fit us among the categories normally given on forms and such. Btw, the Caucasian category, according to the US federal gov’t definition, incorporates peoples of Middle Eastern descent as well as some other ethnicities, you’d be surprised to know.
PS: Panjdaria (I’m assuming you’re a fellow Punjabi due to the nick), welcome to GS!
Indeed!
Let me add that the area that comprises Pakistan only became part of India in the Moghul era. Even then it was the culture from Western regions (Afghanistan, Central Asia) that dominated India for centuries and changed it forever.
Persian Empire 500 BC (Area includes present day Pakistan)
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http://www.feedback.nildram.co.uk/richardebbs/essays/images/persiamap.htm
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care to post the extent of the mauryan empire right after the short lifespan of the greek expansion, the ashokan empire, the kushana empire, and the gupta empire? wonder where pakistan is on them.
:)
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Ok so we aren’t arguing about ethnicities here we are trying to establish that Pakistan is in fact part of the middle east - although personally I propose that we should all buy hair bleach and claim to be part of Scandinavia.
Anyway…to the point: If India is South Asia, Afghanistan and Iran count as Central Asia (I’m guessing) and we are in between - how do we leap acroos to the middle east? Do we wipe Central Asia off the map? 
Thanks for the detailed information, Islamabad. Indeed, many Indian customs have elements derived from the western Asia regions since India was ruled by the Mogul empire for a good length of time. The Moguls brought with them traditions of Afghanistan, Iran, and Turkey, and incorporated them into Indian society. If you have ever read the Baber-nama of the famous Mogul king Baber, he speficially states that the people of India lacked in arts, science, architecture, and culture. Thankfully he and his ancestors were able to introduce these factors into mainstream Indian culture, elements of which are present and thriving even today. Also take for example the world-famous Taj Mahal, the gleaming beacon of profound architecture, which in all of India, is what the world specifically comes to India to see yet it so happens that this gorgeous moument is Mogul since Moguls were the ones that after all brought beauty, architecture, and arts into India from their respective ancestral lands.
Yes sweetpie, cultural cross-over does indeed indicate and prove the truth of geographical location. Jungle and Pyjamas are part of the English language now so England is in fact a part of India 
According to vivek's post Caucasians are Indians, europeans etc..not middle easterners, which are probably more negroid. I knew there was a reason I was lighter than Sweetpie. Since Pakistan is in the middleeast, they are definitely much darker people unlike us Indians who are caucasians. Sweetpie, have you heard of "fair and lovely"?
Matsui, have YOU heard of “fair and lovely”??? Bahut kaley ho, iman se. I love your stabs at making me out to be so kali larki. I had in fact posted a pic on GS a while ago too so there 
I am a proud Pakistani larki
SPji, I am just talking about Science, since Pakistanis are not like Indians and Indian are Caucasians as a race and Pakistanis are morelike Arabs, who are half black-half gay, well…you can see where this is going… bhagwan jo karta hai,achcha karta hai…meri kali kalooti dost.
As part of my re-discovering my Scandinavian heritage I’d like my new nick to be Stefan Xtremsson. Can Mr Custom see to it as soo as possible please?
and stop trying to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes Matsui, everyone knows that Bombay is located next to Australia and that makes you an aborigine 
Yeah and Karachi is located next to Bombay, so that makes SP an aubergine.