Pakistan is NOT a South Asian Nation

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*Originally posted by MehnazQ: *
Do you think arabs/middle eastern people see Pakistanis as their fellow arabs or are we viewed as south east asian? Sure, there are some Pakistanis who believe that we are middle eastern, but I don't think arabs see as their 'kind'.
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Do Arabs treat Pakistanis badly in places like Dubai, Bahrain, Muscat? I know Arabs dislike Black people. Looks are the carnage in Sudan created by the Arab militia against Black Muslims. It is said that nearly 100000 Black Muslims will die, if no action is taken against Arab Muslims from North Sudan.

Earlier Arab Muslims killed millions of Black Christians in Sudan, now they are killinf Black Muslims,

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Caucasian…Brown Caucasian…West Asian…South Asian…u lost me…i’m confused…yet again…:confused:

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The only reason some consider Pakistan as part of the Middle East is because of terrorist activity that’s been going on there. Some knuckleheads also consider Morocco as part of the Middle East.

Queer, Parathiya got independence from Tandoria in 623 BC and there is no need to bring ancient conflicts to make a point regarding today’s geopolitical challenges.

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Re: Pakistan is NOT a South Asian Nation

I agree with a postor above, what are you smoking??? BTW, under the list of ethnicities, i have never seen an option for middle eastern ppl. How is someone supposed to check that??Not that I would! :snooty:

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*Originally posted by Madhanee: *
The only reason some consider Pakistan as part of the Middle East is because of terrorist activity that’s been going on there.

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I would agree with that....

Besides,Culturally Middle East is an entire different world compared to Pakistan....Other then religion & other religious affiliations, we are a completely different lot...

Of course we are not only linguistically but also culturally related to India & other Indian-Sub Continent countries....

Majority of the people from Pakistan(70%) & India(70%)....are Indo-Aryans(not typically related to the Middle east/Arabs)....Rest of the 30% are Indo-Iranians(Pashtuns/Baluchis)in Pakistan ....And for the rest of the 30% in India are ....27% Dravidians(Southern Indians) & Mongoloids 3%....

Pakistani structure is basically an Indo-Aryan(Punjabi/Sindhi)/Iranian one(Pashtuns/Baluchis).....that is not so related to Arabs.....
Infact Linguistically Afghanistan & Iran are also related to Indian/ Iranian Shelf rather than that of a part of Middle east....

There is a continuous effort being going on to categorise muslims as a one big lot of Middle Easterners/Arabs....rather than to accept their cultural diversity:

1)Most people categorise all the Islamic countries that are situated in a chain i.e from Morocco to Pakistan as Middle East...As this gives many plain minded researchers ...a common ground.... to label all muslims as middle easterners...(If someone gets a chance ,he/she may include Bangladesh in the middle east too)...However if you would analyse this chain then there are 4 different cultural groups that live in this chain....

a)Muslims of Subcontinent including Afghanistan= (160 million Pakistan + 160 Million India + 140 million Bangladesh + 30 Million Afghanistan + Maldives = nearly 450 Million for all of subcontinent ...completely different from Arabs

b)North Africa(Morocco,Algeria,Tunisia,Libya)....All of them are under considerable French influence other then that of Arabs...

c)Anatolia(Turkey)....More so categorise itself as a Europen nation rather then that related to Arabs(You may put Anatolia with the it's other Brotherly Turkish speaking Central Asian/Former Soviet Cousins especially Azerbaejanis,Chechenyans,Turkomens of Turkmenistan & Uzbeks/Kazakhs)...

d)Arabs of Middle East ( Including pure Arab nations like Saudi Arabia,Iraq,Kuwait,Bahrain,Qatar,UAE,Oman, Yemen ,Jordan,Syria, Lebanon & Egypt {mainly around the Nile Valley + Cairo})....

2)While if you would look on the other end there are ,South east asians = Indonesians /Malaysians /Brunei/ Southern Phillipines{Mindanao}/ Southern Thailand/ & Arakan in Myanmar)....

3)The third tier of Muslims are Central Asians or the former Soviets (Newly independent Soviet Republics + Sinkuang in China & Chechenya/ Dagestan/ Ingushetia/ Ossetia & Tataristan in Russia)....

4)The 4th ones are the Sub-Saharan Muslims/Africans (Niger,Mali,Mauritania,Chad,Senegal,Guniea, Somalia,Tanzania,Half of Nigeria)...

5)Another smaller sub-group of muslims are "The muslims of Eastern Europe".... Albanians,Bosniacs,Turks living in Former Yugoslavia/ Bulgaria & Kosovans....

So culturally Muslims nations are a diverse lot & not just the middle east...

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:confused: :eek:

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In total for subcontinent…Maldives=270,000

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Middle East does not only include Arabic speaking countries. It has Iran (Farsi), Turkey (Turkish), Kurds in Iraq, Iran and Turkey and so many others. SO Arabic is not the condition of being part of Middle East. Iran is not a memebr of Arab League but still a part of Middle East. Our languages in Middle East are close to Arabic atleast the alphabet is the same. SO many words are common. We do not have the language and alphabet common with India. As I said, what difference does it make? We have many similarities with India also, but more with Middle East.

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*Originally posted by Islamabad: *
Middle East does not only include Arabic speaking countries. It has Iran (Farsi), Turkey (Turkish), Kurds in Iraq, Iran and Turkey and so many others. SO Arabic is not the condition of being part of Middle East. Iran is not a memebr of Arab League but still a part of Middle East. Our languages in Middle East are close to Arabic atleast the alphabet is the same. SO many words are common. We do not have the language and alphabet common with India. As I said, what difference does it make? We have many similarities with India also, but more with Middle East.
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Language doesn't require Alphabets to belong to a particular group....Turks change Turkish from Arabic Alphabets to that of roman but they would still be qualified as an Indo-European Language....
Similarly If Urdu is written in Arabic Alphabets & Hindi in Sanskrit....Both of them still are Indo-aryans....By Changing alphabets you can't change the origins of a language....

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caucasian is a race, south asia and middle east is a geographical location. they cant be interchangeable.

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Isloo is right, Pakistan should be sent off to the middle east which is invariably in Ur-anus.

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No matter where we go, I don't understand why are Indians worried? Can you tell me why are you Indians always worried about us, where we go, what we be part of and whom we talk to? Its been 55 years now, atleast now leave us alone.

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*Originally posted by Fraudz: *
caucasian is a race, south asia and middle east is a geographical location. they cant be interchangeable.
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Exactly,i agree with you....And similarly ...you can't say that Caucasians live in South Asia....Can you???And besides there are many other factors that describe the cultural composition & identity of a particular area...and race is definitely one of them...

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dang, This thread should be in jokes forum. I think he is trying to prove we’re in middle east based on where we are located not how we see our selves as. . oyee rub ddiyo bundiyo eyy dekho.
http://www.rom.on.ca/southasia/map.html

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Isloo, that’s right. Tell them people!!! Somepeopel actually think that Pakistan is part of the Indian Subcontinent. Stupid people…Pakistan is it’s own continent. Neither here nor there… :jhanda:

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*Originally posted by Matsui: *
Isloo is right, Pakistan should be sent off to the middle east which is invariably in Ur-anus.
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That was not very polite....Besides you can't enforce what you think is right...Being an Indian doesn't give you the right to be rude too...or is it a part of being one???

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mahnoor that map of South Asia…what are we doing in there? Can’t you cut us out and move us up and to the left a bit? And colour it in yellow so it’s obvious where we belong :snooty:

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*Originally posted by Islamabad: *
Middle East does not only include Arabic speaking countries. It has Iran (Farsi), Turkey (Turkish), Kurds in Iraq, Iran and Turkey and so many others. SO Arabic is not the condition of being part of Middle East. Iran is not a memebr of Arab League but still a part of Middle East. Our languages in Middle East are close to Arabic atleast the alphabet is the same. SO many words are common. We do not have the language and alphabet common with India. As I said, what difference does it make? We have many similarities with India also, but more with Middle East.
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Hum....
Answer this.
Who is most likely to understand you if you speak your national Language..and Indian or an Arab?

Urdu and Hindi may have different scripts but best part is that people speaking bpoth these languages can talk to each other. And if you are having issue with some Hindi words then dont worry we are working on it. We will release few more Bollywood movies and you all will learn.

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abbh khush? I’m out of yellow & green plus blue is better. I can’t upload or you all will only get the picture not the info
http://www.minolta-qms.nl/me/buy/pakistan.htm

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Wow…an eye opener:hehe:
It has also included Cyprus in middle east…while it is going to be a part of EU soon…Seems like… konica minolta has some of it’s own “greater plans”…:hehe::hehe: