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pakistan will have to keep it in check.............
till democracy in afghanistan matures....
not interfering is a nice principle only when ur neighbours have proper democratic governments ....
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I am just saying that USA is not our Master and they ll never allow us to be a progressive country.
This is the mentality that has led Pakistan to be a nation of failure.
It is always America's fault, they never let us, they make conspiracies, it's the Jew's fault etc.
The Pakistani people throw around much of the dirt in Pakistan, then they blame others....and the problems continue.
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There is no doubt that Pakistan can not afford a hostile Afghanistan, US trying to handover it's Afghan mission to India it is big no for us.
If US need Pakistan to Proctect it's interest Ian the Afganistan, it need o take care Pakistani interests there as well, but they simpally do not care about us.
ISI is like any security agency has duty to keep some sort of contacts with every group, same is being done CIA, even recently Germens as well.
Why they have problem with us only, it is time to tell US off that we only can cooperate with you as long as it is within our national interest.
It has been for long time they have been taking us granted, it is time for us to stand up (I am not advocating for armed confrontation between us and them) and define perimeters of our cooperation with them.
I am sure once they realise our firm resolve they would come around and try to reach a win win partnership for both side.
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But our leaders have no mentality like this and still we are suffering :cobra: woh to hamaisha unn key rahoon main aankhain bichay hotay hain :halo:
That is a separate topic dude 
lets us live our own life 
kissi aur ko hamara thaikay daar bananay key kia zaroorat hay 
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as usual American vampires looking for another country to destroy and kill people!!!
Hmmmm ..... well the Army is supporting or letting happen things like Drone Attack which violate Pakistan Airspace and kill innocent while aiming at terroists
They r already doing it Sir Jee ..... Their Agents roam free throughout Pakistan ..... soon the Border will open for their Supply lines ..... so Pakistan is dancing to the same old tunes
They blame .... Pakistan Deny ..... Pakistan accuse ..... they deny ..... Parliament goes hoo-haa on Drone attacks ..... Defence Commitee is less than toothless .....
Average PPL Die coz of Hunger, of Diseases, no Medication, no basic Human Rights, instead calling them for Help PPL fear Police, TV is like a 24/7 Circus, industries go down the drain, institutions break down, education is a matter of Wallet ..... Guess what it's us doing it constantly and continuously to ourself
What use of a Atom-bomb if u can't protect ur citizen and ur land and Airspace ????
Sorry for my Rant but it's nothing personal with u or any other here but i think things should be put into perspective ..... We are our biggest enemy and far behind come others
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And how is this new? Everybody and their mother knows Pakistan supports the Taliban.
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And how is this new? Everybody and their mother knows Pakistan supports the Taliban.
Because Pakistan denies this.
Having an 'official' report is different than gossip.
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Ah okay. So that is why Obama saying the US conducts the drone strikes was such a big deal. I get it. Common sense is not all that common after all.
And you do know your statement is an oxymoron.
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Dear readers,
The classified document in question was compiled from statements made by Taliban commanders and fighters while in detention. It is important to understand the context of this document, and extremely important not to draw firm conclusions based on the musings of detained Taliban. These detainees include some of the most motivated and ruthless of the INS who are inspired to play up their success, support, and morale. Their words must be taken in context. This document aggregates the comments of Taliban detainees in a captive environment, without considering the validity of, or motivation behind their reflections. Any conclusions drawn from this would be questionable at best. We understand there might be public interest in a classified document being exposed, but it is critically important to understand the context of what this document is. The insurgency has not had a track record of unbiased, balanced, or transparent reporting. We continue to see evidence that fighters are ignoring the orders of absentee commanders, and joining the reintegration and reconciliation process.
MAJ Nevers,
DET, United States Central Command
www.Centcom.mil/Ur
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So is this report at par with the intelligence report stating about WMDs of Iraq? this report true or not, somebody is paving their way to find an excuse to attack Pakistan...
Look at the news and related news
1) Pakistan not doing enough 2) We can't tell Pakistan about Osama Operation because they might leak the info 3) Pakistan harboring terrorists 4) Pakistan supporting Taliban 5) Pakistan creating hurdles in peace process 6) Pakistan is reason US loosing in Afghanistan
All this to say, had it not been Pakistan, we had won against Taliban, so inorder to win against Talibs, Pakistan need to be eliminate or weaken to the level where it cannot interfere.. nothing new, as usual American vampires looking for another country to destroy and kill people!!!
The Americans are far form being angels with a pure track record but lets face it Pakistans foreign policy is in the hands of myopic cowardly monkeys known as the crore commanders who think they have the solution. Pakistan will become the next war zone thanks to those people in the shadows.
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You are saying something else, here’s what Pentagon is saying!
ISI-Taliban links should be cut off: Pentagon
**While answering the questions of reporters Wednesday about the recently leaked NATO report that mentions alleged ISI links with Taliban, Pentagon spokesman, Capt. John Kirby said “there is nothing new about the information of links between some elements of ISI and Taliban”.****“We have made it clear already that Pakistan needs to act against safe heavens”, he stressed while going on to add that “we would like ties between some elements of ISI and Taliban to be cut-off”.****He, however, cautioned that the report was classified and done inside ISAF, based on thousands of interviews with detainees. “This report is not an analysis and is merely informational”, he said arguing that “it is important to understand that detainees have several motivations for what they do or do not say”.
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When asked about the reaction of Pakistan dismissing the report about such links, he said that he had not seen the reaction of Pakistan, in which they dismissed this report.On another question whether this report will further escalate tensions between both countries, he said “we have already said after November 26 firing incident (that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers) as well that we respect Pakistani concerns”.
Kirby went on to reiterate that the “US is committed to having a better relationship with Pakistan, because it is in the interest of both countries”. “We want to move past this tension with Pakistan, because we have a lot of common interest”, he added.
“Pakistan also faces a threat from terrorists and has been making a lot of sacrifices. Thousands of Pakistani citizens and soldiers have fallen victim to terrorism”, he regretted.
When pressed further to discuss the implications of the NATO report, he said “this is a classified report and I am not prepared to discuss the contents of this report”. I can only say that “Taliban are under pressure and influence of security forces is increasing in Afghnaistan”.“Taliban have been a determined adversary though and it is a known fact that they want to have control of Afghanistan back”, he pointed out.
On another question whether the lifting of US aid restrictions on Uzbekistan had anything to do with their increased reliance on northern supply routes for Nato forces after closure of ground routes from Pakistan, Kirby said that was unaware of any such linkage between the two.“Northern routes, however, continue to remain an important artery to sustain our operations in Afghnaistan”, he said.
“Pakistan is yet to officially notify us of any demands following the Nov 26 NATO attack report rejection (like seeking an apology or new tariff mechanism for NATO supplies)”, he said responding to another query.
On reconciliation efforts with Taliban and their demand for release of Guantanamo detainees, he said “I am not prepared to share details or comment on specifics of reconciliation efforts with Taliban”. “We have made it clear that if it is Afghan-led, we will be interested in participation”, he said detailing the official US position.“It will be premature to talk about any detainee transfer at this stage”, he said but asserted that “we know and understand who we have in Guantanamo, what are their motivations and what were their previous activities”.“We always make our utmost to ensure that they (detainees) can t go back to battlefield”, he said when asked how dangerous these five detainees were and how could it be ensured that they don t go back to the battlefield from prison.
On the Congressional report raising concern over growing number of attacks by Taliban on Afghan national forces, he said that he had not seen the said report yet, but it would be too soon to say that it s an endemic or systemic issue.
“It will be incorrect to say that there is huge infiltration of Afghan Natioanl Security Forces by the Taliban. Most operations jointly done by ISAF and Afghan Natioanl Security Forces are a success and are conducted without a problem”, he observed.He stressed that such instances, however few and far between, were disconcerting and military commanders in both the US and Afghanistan were paying due attention to it.
– Contributed by Awais Saleem, Dunya News correspondent in Washington, DC
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If someone believe that USA want us ahead of the other countries in field or Engineering or other Industries, he is living in Fools paradise. USA never wish to see us as a Progressive country.
I am afraid none of these assertions, to say the least, are grounded in reality. You do realize that even as we speak thousands of Pakistani students are studying at top American universities, mostly in engineering, technology, and business related fields? The majority of the Pakistani students are also studying at graduate level, pursuing Masters, PH.Ds, or post-grad degrees that are more often than not funded, subsidized and paid for by American tax payers.
Are you aware that Pakistani students get the most number of Fulbright scholarships? Priority is given to 'practical' fields like engineering and many of these recipients of Fulbright scholarship, though academically gifted, come from the most disadvantaged backgrounds who have little chance of upward social mobility without advanced degrees from abroad. And these Fulbright scholarships come with a condition, i.e. after completing the degree from the US, the recipient MUST return back and serve their country at least for a minimum duration of time. If US was so against Pakistan progressing then why not it stops spending American tax payers' hard-earned money on Pakistanis' education?
Also FYI, there is NOTHING else the US would want then a progressive Pakistan. Such a Pakistan, in fact, is in the best interest of not only Pakistanis but also in the interests of the inhabitants of the rest of the world. A country of 180 million people, with nuclear weapons to boot, ravaged by internal conflict or talibanic fundamentalism is the worst nightmare for the world.
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And how is this new? Everybody and their mother knows Pakistan supports the Taliban.
No Sir,
Stated policy of Pakistan Government is that** we will not allow any group to use our soil who pursue any militant agenda anywhere in the world.** This is the stated policy of not only the government but all the major political parties of the opposition including PMLN and PTI. This policy has been reinforced in various unanimous resolutions passed by our parliament.
It's not the Pakistan govt.'s decision to support Taliban. This policy is being pursued by Pakistan Military Leadership independently against the will of the elected government and aspirations of the people of Pakistan.. and it's a huge threat to the safety and security of the 180 million people of Pakistan.
Your definition of Pakistan is the military leadership of Pakistan I guess..!!!
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Tell me how many students return back to Pakistan and work for the prospect of Pakistan ? My dear USA always seek his own interest Whether you believe it or not.
Do we have permission to bring our technology (computer, wireless pohne etc) in market ?
Do you think our Engineers can’t prepare any good thing ?
Just Read the IMF terms & conditions before giving us Loan.
In simple words, USA hum par koi ehsan naheen kar raha hay koenkah woh jo kuch hum ko day raha hay uss kay badlay buhat kuch hasil kar raha hay!
I think its enough bcoz mujhay bhains kay aagay been bajanay ko koi shouq naheen hay :cobra:
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You think it is a joke? Seriously an industrialist kidnapped from vicinity of Lahore was constantly told by abductors who were Pushtuns of Afghan origin that he should voluntarily tell his family to pay higher ransom as the money will go in the cause of Allah. Nearly all the money collection in Kidnapping cases in Pakistan takes place in FATA areas.
Yes it is a joke, our traders, business men, industrialists are continuously suffering or i better say living in fear, no one knows when they are going to be abducted by these terrorists and if these animal well let them live..
Moreover, these animals kills indiscriminately, be it women, children or men and so far thousands of Pakistanies have been killed directly by these people and yet our armed forces see some strategic depth in them and yet americans believe that the common Pakistanies are supporting/sponsoring afghan war.... now that is funny.... isn't it.. no body is there to protect us... and yet we are financing all the parties... army by paying indirect and direct taxes and taliban by forced to pay ransom or bhatta.... and still getting killed...
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those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it
Wednesday, February 1, 2012 9:50AM ES
It’s not much of a secret.
The Taliban are poised to retake control of Afghanistan once President Barack Obama pulls out the 100,000-plus American troops, according to a supposedly ‘secret’ conclusion in a leaked U.S. military report compiled after thousands of Taliban detainees were questioned.
Equally stunning for its evident obviousness was another conclusion: that Pakistan’s murky and powerful intelligence agency was in close contact with the Taliban and helping the Islamic insurgents target and kill western troops.
Despite the predictable howls of outrage and denial, especially from Pakistan, the stark realities are ever more obvious.
After a decade of war, the U.S.-led effort has failed to crush the Taliban and Mr. Obama has set an exit date. The Taliban know – and have publicly said for years – that they can outwait the westerners who abandoned Afghanistan to a bloody, impoverished, fate once before, after creating and arming the Islamic mujahedeen to fight the Soviets in the 1980s.
Meanwhile, Pakistan, for all its protestations of fealty to the ‘war on terrorism’ has evidently hedged its bets, knowing it will remain stuck coping with the wild, lawless and strife-torn region long after outsiders lose interest in Afghan ‘nation-building.’ The leaked report came, co-incidentally, on the same day that yet another Afghan soldier –supposedly being ‘trained’ by foreign troops to defend democracy in Kabul and take over security from them – turned his weapon on his mentors and killed one.
There have been least 40 such ‘fratricides,’ many linked to Taliban infiltrators. Meanwhile, in Washington, Mr. Obama’s top intelligence chiefs confirmed that they recognized the need to release five top Taliban commanders currently held in Guantanamo so they can be part of ‘peace’ talks held in Qatar.
Instead of defeating the ‘detestable murderers and scumbags,’ as Canada’s former top soldier Rick Hillier called the Taliban, a decade of death will end in a western pullout and peace talks.
**Pakistan, it seems, was right to play both sides.
“The Taliban remains a resilient, determined adversary,” Mr. Obama’s top intelligence czar James Clapper said Tuesday, adding with some evident recognition of the reality that the Islamic fundamentalists will play a powerful, ongoing role in Afghanistan.
“I don’t think anyone harbors any illusions about it ... the position is to at least explore the potential for negotiating with them as a part of this overall resolution of the situation in Afghanistan.”
So Pakistan’s longstanding – and never-believed – denials that it was staying close to the Taliban was playing the long game in its own national interests.**
But then Washington’s many denials that it was flying missile-flying drones over Pakistan to target and kill Taliban leaders turned out to be equally suspect.
Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar, dismissed the brouhaha over the ‘secret’ report as yet another attempt to discredit and disgrace Islamabad as she was about to visit Kabul to discuss with Mr. Karzai the pending peace talks with the Taliban.
“I can disregard this as a potentially strategic leak ...This is old wine in an even older bottle,” she said.
In Washington, the old ‘whine’ is that Pakistan is double-crossing its western allies.
But in Islamabad and Kabul, memories stretch back long before Sept 11, 2001, when the al-Qaeda terrorist attacks destroyed New York’s twin towers, damaged the Pentagon and suddenly shifted American attention back to Afghanistan.
Pakistan’s then military ruler Gen. Pervez Musharraf, was instantly transformed from international pariah for toppling a democracy into a key ally and close friend, but only after being threatened with destruction unless he agreed to side with America against the Taliban.
Faced with an ultimatum, Gen. Musharraf agreed to be George W. Bush’s friend and ally. A decade later, with different leaders in both Washington and Islamabad, and deep hostility and mistrust between the two nations, the strategic Pakistani decision to hedge its bets and retain influence, if not control, over the Taliban seems to be paying off.
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^ the link of the article please?
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Terrorist syndicate operating from Pakistani tribal areas: Petraeus
**While answering questions before the House Intelligence Committee Thursday, Director CIA Gen. (retd) David Petraeus said “there is a syndicate of terrorist organisations in the tribal areas of Pakistan. Afghan and Pakistani Taliban and Islamic movement of Uzbekistan are all connected to each other.”****On a question about the Quetta shura of Taliban, he said that it was the overarching organization but “we can t say that all terrorist outfits are part of it”. He said that all such groups may carry out independent activities, but are loosely connected to each other against the United States.
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When asked about the Haqqani network on Afghanistan s eastern border, he said “Haqqani network based in Pakistan s tribal area of North Waziristan and is linked to Taliban and other terrorist networks”.“It is a lethal network with indications of going transnational, although we have not seen any proof that they have been successful in doing so,” he pointed out.
He said Haqqani network had carried out several important attacks on US bases and embassy in Kabul. Taliban had used civilian assasinations to terrorise the people in Afghanistan and elsewhere, he conceded. In response to another query, he agreed that "Taliban have been saying to Afghan people that we are coming back.“The Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Mike Rogers, during the hearing, expressed his reservations over the US efforts to negotiate with such terrorist network to achieve a peace deal in Afghanistan, and cited the example of Pakistan to prove his point.”
Negotiations with Taliban for reconciliation are very very disturbing for us," he stated while hoping that the pieces of intelligence the US authorities were receiving in this regard were accurate.
Pakistan s efforts, he observed, to achieve a peace deal with Taliban in FATA were not successful in 2006-07. Taliban have used such negotiations over and over again to buy time and carry out more attacks, he said while regretting the fact that Taliban militants had been assasinating civilians even during the course of these negotiations.
Director CIA agreed with the Intelligence Committee chairman and said that “the said peace deal was with Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan in Swat”. This deal was not successful and that s why Pakistani army had to move in. Many civilians and Pakistan army troops were the casualty during this period," he recalled.
Gen. Petraeus informed the members of the committee that Pakistan was also a part of reconciliation process as the third party. Mike Rogers also expressed dismay about Secretary Defense Leon Panetta s statement about ending combat in Afghanistan earlier than schedule in 2013 as a “cause of concern”.“This shows a change in plans and is not something that we had understood as Intelligence Committee members”, he asserted. Meanwhile, the state department and the Pentagon moved to clarify the remarks of Secretary Panetta saying that “these only reflected his hope of an early transition of security responsibility to Afghan national forces.”
“The final drawdown date of end-2014 remains on track. Consultation for making recommendations to the Chicago summit in May this year are ongoing and any final decision will be taken with all the stakeholders on board”, Pentagon spokesman Capt. (retd) John Kirby said in a separate briefing to reporters.“We want to assure our Afghan partners that no decision will be taken without their close consultation,” he said and also made it clear that Panetta s remarks were not meant to relay any signal to NATO or French authorities, who have indicated at the possibility of an early withdrawal of their troops from Afghanistan.
“Our military gains in Afghanistan have given this hope to Secretary Panetta that we will be able to achieve transition of security responsibility to Afghans early,” Kirby said.“There is some tough fighting ahead in this mission and nobody should misunderstand it as we want to ensure that Afghanistan will not be a safe heaven for terrorists ever again,” he stated.The Pentagon spokesman also reiterated that the US will continue to have a presence of force in Afghanistan in assistance and advisory capacity beyond 2014 and consultations in this regard were ongoing.
- Contributed by Awais Saleem, Dunya News correspondent in Washington, DC
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Why Taliban are so strong in Afghanistan
****Nato has invested hundreds of billions of dollars over the past 10 years trying to raise a modern army for Afghanistan and to rebuild the country’s infrastructure.
But if a leaked classified report prepared by the alliance is to believed, all this will go to waste soon after foreign combat forces withdraw in 2014.
**The latest in a series of leaks suggests that Nato is much more worried about the course of the war than it lets on in public.
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Nato has tried to play down the importance of the report by calling it a “compilation of opinions expressed by Taliban detainees”, but it highlights many failures in the decade-long war in Afghanistan.
The harsh reality is that an increasing number of Afghans are turning to the Taliban, having grown mistrustful of Nato and Afghan forces.
**In remote parts of the country where the government rules only on paper, the Taliban are often preferred.
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**“Americans are like Kuchi nomads,” a tribal elder from the south-east once told me. “They come with their tents for some time and before you know them, they leave.”
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**Taliban courts
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People have little choice but to support the Taliban in many areas, given the power of the militants.
But widespread corruption in the government and a culture of impunity - where senior bureaucrats or those with connections to them easily escape punishment even for serious crimes like murder - are seen as reasons for people moving closer to the Taliban.
In Kunduz in the north, for instance, several militia commanders working for the government have been accused of extortion, robbery and rape, but not one has ever been tried.
Locals say corruption is rampant even in the judiciary and they have no option but to turn to shadowy Taliban judges to resolve disputes.
One Kabul man I spoke to, Jamshid, a fruit vendor in his 30s, compared the judicial system of the Karzai administration with the desert courts of the Taliban.
**“The Taliban courts were swift and strict,” he said with admiration.
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**“A thief would be given the death sentence after a short trial. But under Mr Karzai’s rule, it will take a century to prove a thief guilty - and even then there is no guarantee that he will be punished.”
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The country’s poor literacy rate and the Taliban’s psychological war in many districts is believed to have helped the insurgents to win the hearts of the Afghan population.
Taliban songs, videos and ringtones play on people’s emotions.
Taliban leader Mullah Omar has launched his own style of counter-insurgency, and a shadow Taliban administration of sorts is in place in many areas.
Taliban officials do the rounds in villages, districts and valleys collecting taxes and dispensing their version of justice.
I know of several cases where Taliban officials have been fired because people have complained about them - many people see this as a more responsive system than the actual government where such action is rare.
And family loyalties run deep. People from the same village or district as a Taliban fighter will never hand him over to Nato or the Afghan government.
Many families have members working on both sides, some for Afghan forces, others for the Taliban - this is seen as a form of local insurance policy. When villagers hear US President Barack Obama or Vice-President Joe Biden discussing withdrawal in 2014, the Taliban come and say, look Nato is leaving, but we will be here. 
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The Taliban’s reach is thought to extend right into parts of the government.
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**When I was in Sarkano district in the eastern province of Kunar, I could hear the Taliban presenter on Radio Voice of Sharia FM: “This is a message for apostate employees of the Afghan government. But not to some of our friends in the government - they know who they are.”
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**Serious threat
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Senior officials have told me some government members think the Taliban might return.
“So, they tell the Taliban, ‘look we have sympathy with you’,” one of the officials said.
“Then the Taliban tell these officials to prove their support. Sometimes, they ask these officials to help carry a fighter, a suicide attacker, or to help with weapons and access.”
Another reason for locals turning away from the elected government is its failure to restore or maintain order in areas vacated by Western forces. Afghan security forces, grappling with high illiteracy rates, desertion, drug addiction and Taliban infiltration, have failed to instil confidence in the people.
**There have even been several reports of Afghan police selling their weapons to militants.
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While Afghan officials admit there are problems in the army and police - on whom the country’s future security depends - they say there is no systemic failure.
“The reality is that they sell their bullets and weapons in the market to the highest bidder and that sometimes includes Taliban or other insurgent groups,” said one senior Afghan security official in Kabul.
**Pakistan is crucial
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The leak also puts Afghan President Hamid Karzai in a very difficult position.
He has been trying to repair ties with Afghanistan’s not-so-friendly neighbour, Pakistan, which denies sheltering the militants. The report’s claims that Pakistani security services are helping the Taliban will do nothing to help his efforts.
Mr Karzai has told his confidants on several occasions that a peace dialogue with the Taliban will succeed only when it has the backing of Pakistan.
**“If you have a hundred channels to talk to the Taliban through, and Pakistan is not on board, all of these channels will get closed, but if you have a small number of channels to contact Taliban through, along with Pakistan’s approval, it will surely take you somewhere,” one senior aide to the president told the BBC.
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**The leaked document seriously undermines Nato and Afghan government claims over the years that the Taliban have lost their punch.
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On the contrary, the Taliban remain a more serious threat than ever to peace and stability in Afghanistan.
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If Pakistanis do not want to return to Pakistan after getting their degree from abroad then whose fault is it? Perhaps they see better opportunities and quality of life abroad than they could ever dream to achieve in Pakistan?
And certainly Pakistanis are not the only ones who want to leave their country of origin. For example, I think something around a whopping 10% doctors, 8% engineers and so on in the US are of Indian origin. Indians make up the highest proportion of recipients of H1 visa with the American IT companies in particular hiring them left, right and center! Yet, I don’t see any outrage in India at some of their brightest moving abroad to pursue greener pastures. The Non-resident Indians and the Indian diaspora are very much held in high esteem there.
It does not. In my previous post, I wrote in detail about the Fulbright scholarship directly funded by the US government which REQUIRES you to return to your country of citizenship and serve it, at least, for a minimum number of years after getting your degree from the US. As for others who are not recipient of conditional grants like Fulbright, if they are not returning to Pakistan then again it is not US’s fault. Certainly, American companies are generally no longer very keen to hire Pakistanis so if Pakistanis are not returning to Pakistan then most likely they are going to the Middle East or somewhere else. US is getting nothing from funding or subsidizing their education.
Yes of course you do. Didn’t rangoli here a couple of months or so ago post a link to an encouraging news article about the LUMS professor who has been recognized by MIT as among the top 35 Young Innovators of 2011? See no one is stopping Pakistanis from innovating or bringing technology etc. into the market. On the contrary, Pakistani talent is recognized and celebrated by top American institutions like the prestigious MIT.
I think Pakistanis do not lack any potential and can certainly make good things. Of course, they need access to good quality education and guidance too. Which is why it is heartening that if you check out the profiles of faculty members of the top universities of Pakistan, you will find that many faculty members are in fact US trained, who received their PhDs from American universities and many were Fulbright scholars.
Again, IMF does not come knocking at Pakistan’s door; it is Pakistan that keeps approaching it. Moreover, IMF is an international organization and its terms and conditions are fairly uniform for all countries. If its policy prescriptions appear harsh, that is because, like children, developing countries too need to stand on their feet and for that to happen difficult but inevitable decisions have to be made.
Bhaijan, yah kaisi baatain kar rahay ho, kiya yeh kula tazad nahi? I think by now we have completely debunked the myth that US does not want a prosperous progressive Pakistan. A stable progressive Pakistan is the only thing US and the international community desire.
Mujhe bhi kuch aisa hi feel ho raha hai. By the way, I would rather people stay on topic instead of taking irrelevant digs at others, but khair.. :cobra: