They are the one who supply us with the very internet and the forum we are having this debate
They are the one who have supplied us with all the military supplies to date
They are the one who provide us with the parts so that we can assemble them as use as cars, engines, satellite, bulb, tube-light, super computers to run our Stock markets, network equipments to run the show, the diesel engine which is needed for agriculture and industrial development, the supply you with life saving drugs when you are all down and ill.. should i say more
in simple words, they don't have to bomb you to send you to the stone-age they simply have put sanctions on you will be there by yourself...
instead of getting all this egoistic, what we need to do is, transfer the knowledge and develop the technology, and then we can tell them go to hell..
So in simple words you are saying they are our masters.
Why don't we come out of USA shadow ? China is their which can provide each & every thing but YES we can't live without our MASTERS.
For all of above things which u said they are getting benefits from us and don't tell me they are in love with us.
This is the same USA which promised to help u with its Navy and u know how they helped us ?
In so called war on terror we are giving us lives of innocent people! Why ?
How many US soldiers and people have been killed in this war?
This is the main problem we think without USA we can’t take a single step. In a country where all industries getting closed, where where bills (Gas, Electricity) are increasing day by day. Where we are dancing on the finger tips of our our MASTER’s but they are still saying Do More. So what can we do except Okay BOSS as u wish
So in simple words you are saying they are our masters.
Why don't we come out of USA shadow ? China is their which can provide each & every thing but YES we can't live without our MASTERS.
For all of above things which u said they are getting benefits from us and don't tell me they are in love with us.
This is the same USA which promised to help u with its Navy and u know how they helped us ?
In so called war on terror we are giving us lives of innocent people! Why ?
How many US soldiers and people have been killed in this war?
You just cannot come out of US shadow at once, like i said in my reply, get the knowledge and technology transferred to you and then you won't be looking to any China or Saudia or Russia for anything....
what you are saying here, lets get out of US shadow and get under the shadow of China, which means only we want to change out master... no good for me, i want to get rid of my slavery... and the only thing which can get me my independence is my strength in knowledge and technology
The interesting thing to note from the report is the acknowledgment for the first time about the support taleban have in the general public, police, military and government. Even if isi does not support them still it will not be easy for the Americans to militarily end the war. This region has had enough of this war, our army should focus more on our own country which they have destroyed by poking their nose in neighbors affairs. In the past two days Pakistan has lost at least 60 military officials in balochistan and fata.
So in simple words you are saying they are our masters.
Why don't we come out of USA shadow ? China is their which can provide each & every thing but YES we can't live without our MASTERS.
For all of above things which u said they are getting benefits from us and don't tell me they are in love with us.
This is the same USA which promised to help u with its Navy and u know how they helped us ?
In so called war on terror we are giving us lives of innocent people! Why ?
How many US soldiers and people have been killed in this war?
China and all our so called brother Muslim countries will not even recognize you if UN sponsored Nato sanctions come on Pakistan.
You are very happy that a lot of US soldiers got killed. The miserable life of Afghani people is of no consideration for you.
Let's call every Jihadi from the world and offer them to use Pakistan to have their fun..
How many innocent people have been killed in TTP attacks in Pakistan?
The ratio of TTP killed innocent pakistanis is 1:10 compared drone killed innocent Pakistanis.
We have two separate issues to deal with.. and you are trying to mix them up.
1) You don't agree to fight American war.. You condemn the drone attacks on innocent Pakistanis. I fully agree with you.
2) Afghanistan Taliban and other militant groups are using our homeland to carry out their foreign agendas. You think we should continue to allow them because we must defy US and start a fight with them. My stand on this issue is we should immediately throw them out and let them deal with their own problems in Afghanistan for the safety of our own innocent citizens.
So only USA can help us to get knowledge or technology ?
If someone believe that USA want us ahead of the other countries in field or Engineering or other Industries, he is living in Fools paradise. USA never wish to see us as a Progressive country.
China never behave like masters! They always try to help us but hum kia karain haamara Commission Agent commission kay chakroon main inn ko kuch karnay he naheen daita hay
We must have some good friends around us like China.
who is providing all this facilities to venezuela,cuba,brazil.....
cuba is country with more self respect......
being sidekick of usa not going to help pakistan....
have you ever been to Cuba and do you know their main trade includes women and lust?
Brazil first made itself strong enough to be considered and BTW Brazil is not in confrontation mode with anyone in the world
Yes Venezuela, is threatening and all that and they afford to do that, hell even Qadafi afford that and Ahmadi nijad is doing it.... you know the common thing among all these??? i let you figure that out and in due course can you tell me how many million barrels of oil Pakistan pump out on daily basis and then see where we stand!!! isn't knowing facts and then taking decisions right thing to do?
China and all our so called brother Muslim countries will not even recognize you if UN sponsored Nato sanctions come on Pakistan.
You are very happy that a lot of US soldiers got killed. The miserable life of Afghani people is of no consideration for you.
Let's call every Jihadi from the world and offer them to use Pakistan to have their fun..
How many innocent people have been killed in TTP attacks in Pakistan?
The ratio of TTP killed innocent pakistanis is 1:10 compared drone killed innocent Pakistanis.
We have two separate issues to deal with.. and you are trying to mix them up.
1) You don't agree to fight American war.. You condemn the drone attacks on innocent Pakistanis. I fully agree with you.
2) Afghanistan Taliban and other militant groups are using our homeland to carry out their foreign agendas. You think we should continue to allow them because we must defy US and start a fight with them. My stand on this issue is we should immediately throw them out and let them deal with their own problems in Afghanistan for the safety of our own innocent citizens.
and you are sad that why drone attacks ratio is 1:10 ?
Who is responsible for the miserable life of Afghani people ? Did u ever ask from those people ? I'm sure they will take the name of USA.
I'm not mixing any thing but just saying USA stop interfering in our internal or external issues. If USA killing our innocent people thru drone attack then we should resist rather then to giving Ratio.
No you can get it from Germany, France and other non-English speaking countries as well… but the problem my friend with these countries is, they follow US.. and if US tells them to not to give us or support us, then no way they are going to support us…
Anyway, why we need to be in confrontation mode always??? why we shout AMERICA is DEVIL and then do whatever it takes to get the American passport or visa??? ( applies to other european countries)… you need to realistic here… China may be a super power.. but they are shrewd as hell and will never compromise their interest because Pakistan wants them to do it… Unless you want to become a chinese poddle like Miyanmar…
Learn from Turkey, they are no in confrontation mode, they have gradually taken themselves out of Slavery… can we follow that model???
No you can get it from Germany, France and other non-English speaking countries as well... but the problem my friend with these countries is, they follow US.. and if US tells them to not to give us or support us, then no way they are going to support us...
Anyway, why we need to be in confrontation mode always??? why we shout AMERICA is DEVIL and then do whatever it takes to get the American passport or visa??? ( applies to other european countries)... you need to realistic here... China may be a super power.. but they are shrewd as hell and will never compromise their interest because Pakistan wants them to do it... Unless you want to become a chinese poddle like Miyanmar....
Learn from Turkey, they are no in confrontation mode, they have gradually taken themselves out of Slavery... can we follow that model???
Your Master USA/Politicians ll never allow this! lets try and see the result.
and you are sad that why drone attacks ratio is 1:10 ?
Who is responsible for the miserable life of Afghani people ? Did u ever ask from those people ? I'm sure they will take the name of USA.
I'm not mixing any thing but just saying USA stop interfering in our internal or external issues. If USA killing our innocent people thru drone attack then we should resist rather then to giving Ratio.
And we should be happy with Taliban killings.. only problem in the world is US should not kill us?
After all Taliban kill us for a good cause.. we will straight go to jannat when we are killed in a suicide attack. In fact we should encourage these people to have more frequent suicide bombings on us as we are still not satisfied with the ratios.
Let's assure Taliban that we including our army will all fight alongside when they attack Nato forces in Afghanistan..
Let's teach a lesson to Americans.. they really think they are some kind of super power?
With the help of our Muslim Taliban brothers we will teach them a lesson and show them they are nothing..!!!
**Your Master USA/Politicians **ll never allow this! lets try and see the result.
So now you already know who my master is??? great!!! just because i don't want to blow myself in USA or do not want or advocate war against USA that make US my master... i salute you logic and would like end this debate here... normally it is heat headed people like you who teared down the resolution in UNO saying oh yes we can fight for 1000 years and in 10 days they lost half of the country....
China and all our so called brother Muslim countries will not even recognize you if UN sponsored Nato sanctions come on Pakistan.
**You are very happy that a lot of US soldiers got killed. **The miserable life of Afghani people is of no consideration for you.
During the past month about 33 NATO soldiers were killed, during the past 24 more hours more Pakistani soldiers have been killed and during the past month more than 100 soldiers have been killed. Due to this good taleban/bad taleban we have lost more than 35000 civilians, and the loss to our economy worth billions. Still, for the army Afghanistan (strategic depth) is more important as compared to the country itself. The army should leave Afghanistan alone now those guys have had more than 30 years of bloodshed. We dont want taleban rule for ourselves but want the same for Afghans, the impact of that even we are getting some taleban dose starting from KP, and now even in Punjab.
; what about brothels in thailand created to serve us army…