Re: Pakistan gets seat in UN security Council
He is Hussain Haroon,One of the few good names ,All the ways loyal to Pakistan.
Re: Pakistan gets seat in UN security Council
He is Hussain Haroon,One of the few good names ,All the ways loyal to Pakistan.
Yes. Do tell me what is his experience regarding foriegn policy, international diplomacy and politics? Other than being a good friend of Zardari's?
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He was never a friend of Zardari by any means.
Read more about this event.
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/300681_208068125933111_112367858836472_509924_677131560_n.jpg
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Of course not 
He just happened to get a cushy job in New York with the UN based on his stellar understanding of geopolitics and his brilliant analytical mind
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obviously I don’t know anything about him other than what he said on TV. In addition to this one about UNSC I had seen him being interviewed on npr(?) on youtube where he was quite passionate. He claimed credit for Pakistan for ending vietnam war, the cold war and everything else except the trojan war - but he was passionate and articulate doing that.
My reason was pointing hi out is, such a one sided Pakistani official saying ‘enough abo0ut Kashmir’ when asked is hopefully a sign that the govt of Pakistan is finally realizing and moving away from the usual allegations and false claims on the subject
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FYI.
http://www.pakistanherald.com/newprofile.aspx?hofid=638
Born on 21 October 1950, Ambassador Haroon completed his education from Karachi
Grammar School and Karachi University. He began his early carrier in public service as
election Coordinator for Pakistan Muslim League in 1970. Later he served as
Councillor, Karachi Metropolitan Corporation KMC through 1979-1985, remained
Trustee Karachi Port Trust 1980-1982, Member Sindh Provincial Assembly 1985-1988,
Speaker, Provincial Assembly of Sindh 1985-1986 and leader of opposition, Sindh
Assembly from 1986 to1988. He also served as Consultant, Pakistan Herald Publication
1988-1989, delegate to UN General Assembly, Member to the Board of Governors,
Institute of Business Administration Karachi 1996-1999, Director Board of Directors
Karachi Electric Supply Corporation 1997-1999, Chairman Griffith College Karachi
1999-2005 and President, Pakistan-China Business Forum from 1999 to 2004.
He joined the post of Permanent Representative Pakistan to the United Nations in New
York on 3rd of September 2008.
Hussain Abdullah Haroon formerly speaker of the Provincial Assembly of Sindh, On
28th February, 1985 General Zia-ul-Haq hold elections on non party basis, sits on the
board of several educational institutes, sports associations and charity organizations. He
also has the distinction of being the youngest President of the Sind Club. The elder
brother of Hameed Haroon and grandson of Sir Abdullah Haroon whom Quaid-e-Azam
called one of the strongest pillars of the Muslim League.
Hussain Abdullah Haroon
belong to noble Sindhi family. He is member of many boards of educational institutes,
sports associations and charity organizations. He also has the distinction of being the
youngest President of the Sindh Club. He also been part of protest against real estate
development in Bundal Island by Emaar. Hussain Haroon is the chair of the English
speaking club of Karachi.
In July 2008, Hussain Abdullah Haroon was appointed as the Permanent Representative
of Pakistan to the United Nations, replacing veteran Munir Akram. He took over the
post on 3 September, 2008.
The PPP government has nominated Hussain Haroon, a Karachi-based businessman,
social activist and former Sindh Assembly speaker for the key diplomatic position of
Pakistan’s permanent representative to the United Nations in New York, The News has learnt.
Re: Pakistan gets seat in UN security Council
Thanks. But I knew about a bunch of that. He is by trade a business man with no political acumen or any knowledge of International Diplomacy, multilateral negotiations or real politik. Our standing in the UN has actually dropped considerably over the past few years under this Ambassador's leadership.
He was hired for the post specifically of his standing with Zardari when there are many career diplomats who can do a much better job. This is the man who thought a UN commission on BB's death was a good idea and then stated along with Zardari that the UN didn't do a proper job.
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Funny last time we were holding this position, I remember Mush saying this ( at the time of Iraq War) "I wish we didn't had this position" and then Pakistani representative was absent when voting on Iraq war was due... is this why we are again at it???
Maybe this time it's Irans turn :(
Re: Pakistan gets seat in UN security Council
Thanks. But I knew about a bunch of that. He is by trade a business man with no political acumen or any knowledge of International Diplomacy, multilateral negotiations or real politik. Our standing in the UN has actually dropped considerably over the past few years under this Ambassador's leadership.
He was hired for the post specifically of his standing with Zardari when there are many career diplomats who can do a much better job. This is the man who thought a UN commission on BB's death was a good idea and then stated along with Zardari that the UN didn't do a proper job.
seems like you have an axe to grind against this man. just look at his accomplishments before zardari came to power.
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Has he accomplished a great deal. Sure. Is it relevant to the post he got? Nope. Are their more qualified people for the job? Yup. Are any of my statements factually incorrect? Nope.
When you go to a doctor do you look for the one with the experience or the guy who was a chai walla and just got the desire to be a doctor?
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An ambassador needs to have good manners, excellent social skills, eloquence, and intelligence. He seems to have that. Having good contacts/network is also a plus. He is not there to invent policy or solve a nation's troubles. He is there to smooth things through and to support and implement the policies as laid out by the govt in power.
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@CM - but Mr.Shamraz Khan has listed an impressive set of accomplishments in #22. Why do you persist he doesn't have any? Is your objection thet he was not a lifelong career diplomat?
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Abdullah Haroons interviw with CBS… Brilliant, first time I got impressed with a Pakistani diplomat… His answers were on the mark 101 percent.
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Lakha-lakha wadayu 
Re: Pakistan gets seat in UN security Council
You all say he has accomplished a lot. I don't deny that. But how is it relevant to his current job? I know off the man well enough. Put it this way. In his nearly 4 years in New York he has only the UNSC to show for his work. We have lost most of our election bids in the past 4 years. We lost our seat at ACABQ. We are losing Pakistanis in higher ranking posts in New York on a regular basis. I believe we also lost our bid on the G-77 chairmanship as well.
Re: Pakistan gets seat in UN security Council
You all say he has accomplished a lot. I don't deny that. But how is it relevant to his current job? I know off the man well enough. Put it this way. In his nearly 4 years in New York he has only the UNSC to show for his work. We have lost most of our election bids in the past 4 years. We lost our seat at ACABQ. We are losing Pakistanis in higher ranking posts in New York on a regular basis. I believe we also lost our bid on the G-77 chairmanship as well.
There are many reasons why posts go to this country or that. A lot of politics. A lot of quid pro quo and dealing. Stuff you and I don't know about. The main thing to look at is if he represents the country well. Does he provide a diplomatic, courteous, reliable face to the country as a whole, in the arena of other diplomats and representatives? Does he speak up and express the will of the elected govt of Pakistan? If he does that, then he is doing his job well.
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3 Years - Permanent Mission of Pakistan to the United Nations
4 Years - UN staff member with DPKO and still here.
I am assuming you can correct me if I am wrong but I would have some insight into the whole thing.
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Ah, so you have a dog in this fight, then...did you miss out on a promotion?
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Nah not part of the Foreign Office. I was just hanging on as an adviser at the mission till got the UN gig. Building contacts and such. It was fun while I was there. But enjoy field work far more. Actually see real change and how the UN helps people.
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^ aha! that explains the case of sour grapes perhaps. Hang in there dude, may be your time comes in future and I'll get to say "yeah, I used to know the Pak ambassador during the gupshup days". Just remember I can use some parking spots in Manhattan!