Pakistan gets seat in UN security Council

Congratulations to Pakistan…Pak Ambassador and Indian Envoy hugging each other…May be these Faujis can learn something from civilians..

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congratulation :flowers:

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Great news,well done Haroon.http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQC8nrqXDqfjL4sf&w=90&h=90&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ndtv.com%2Fnews%2Fimages%2Ftopstory_thumbnail%2FPak_wins_UNSC_seat_120.jpg

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:jhanda:

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and what does this will achieve???

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Yes LOL

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Step 1......

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Perhaps nothing. But it definitely gives some respect and recognition to the country which we have lost due to dictatorships.

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This showed that world doesn't recognize us terrorists, We are still an effective voice.

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*RESPECT AND PRESTIGE * my dear

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Funny last time we were holding this position, I remember Mush saying this ( at the time of Iraq War) "I wish we didn't had this position" and then Pakistani representative was absent when voting on Iraq war was due... is this why we are again at it???

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Idiots. No it doesn't mean we are no longer terrorists. No it doesn't mean we are welcome in the community. What it means is we finally have a say in UN and world Security matters. The last time Pakistan was a member of the UNSC was in 2003/2004. That is when the Colin Powell incident in the security council happened if I recall and Pakistan was actively blocking the vote. We were under tremendous pressure from the US but we did not cave. And Pakistan was present for the vote. We abstained due to the pressure instead of saying no.

So this is extremely impressive for an Ambassador that has not been impressive so far. It increases our ability to play with the big dogs but does not change our standing in the world scene with all this US pressure on us.

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guetamala or something also got seat.......... whats so big about it?? nothing tangible..

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Something is better than nothing, Pakistan is under many pressure.
It is a good news. See happy Hussain Haroon.
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A view of the UNGA, as its President announced Pakistan’s election to the UNSC for a 7th term (2012 - 2013). Pakistan secured 129 votes against 55 votes polled in favour Kyrgyzstan, the only other candidate contending the Asian seat.http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/298156_210549012348675_100001807326727_485929_2073876413_n.jpg

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http://turtlebay.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/10/21/hello_togo_will_the_new_security_council_play_ball_with_the_us

The U.N. General Assembly today elected four new temporary members to the U.N. Security Council: Guatemala, Pakistan, Morocco, and Togo – part of an annual U.N. ritual that permits small and mid-sized countries a two-year chance to play alongside the world’s big boys.

A race between Slovenia and Azerbaijan for a fifth Security Council seat was deadlocked as of tonight. The new members will replace Bosnia, Brazil, Gabon, Lebanon, and Nigeria, which will all step down on December 31.

But will the new council make it easier or more difficult for the United States to pursue its objectives? Probably a bit of both.

The Security Council’s composition can have important ramifications for the pace of U.N. crisis management, and can be critical, if not necessarily decisive, in determining whether an important U.S. initiative is perceived as enjoying the backing of the wider world.

U.N. watchers say that this year’s changing of the guard provides some fresh opportunities for the United States and its allies as Brazil and Lebanon, who resisted U.S.-backed efforts to sanction Syria, will be replaced by Guatemala and Morocco, who are more closely aligned with U.S. priorities.

At the same time, Pakistan, an influential developing-world power broker with an increasingly strained relationship with Washington, could complicate U.S. goals at the United Nations on a number of fronts, from the promotion of human rights to the transition in Afghanistan to imposing economic sanctions on Iran.

Pakistan will also share a seat on the council with its regional rival, India, setting the stage for an interesting sideshow. At least for now the two sides are seeking to showcase their ability to work together amicably: Pakistan’s U.N. ambassador Hussein Haroon received a congratulations call from his Indian counterpart, Hardeep Singh Puri, while he addressed reporters outside the General Assembly chamber.

Edward Luck, a historian on the U.N. who also advises Secretary General Ban Ki-moon on human rights and intervention, says that the challenges facing the United States reflects a broader shift in the international balance of power.

With the power of the United States and its allies to dominate the Security Council diminishing, a group of increasingly assertive emerging powers, including Brazil, Turkey, India and South Africa, have been demanding a greater say in the council’s decisions. These middle powers are also seeking to serve temporary stints on the council more frequently than in past, reflecting a skepticism about the prospects for gaining admission in an enlarged permanent membership in the future.

“The Security Council is going through an adjustment to a new international order; it’s no longer dominated by a few powers,” Luck said. “It’s much more of a free for all. It all makes for a more interesting place to watch but a very complicated place to get business done.”

“It’s not been easy this year; it’s not going to be east next year,” he added. “We’re seeing a more complicated set of negotiations because more players have to be listened to. It seems to me the world is moving into a time where we no long have a bipolarity or unipolarity and many actors are not shy about voicing their views on any number of issues.”

The shift has led Brazil and Turkey to mount a high-profile diplomatic challenge to a 2010 agreement by the council’s five big powers to impose sanctions on Iran for failing to suspend its nuclear program. Last month, Brazil, India, and South Africa and Lebanon, abstained on a U.S. backed resolution that would have imposed sanctions on Syria for its repression of peaceful demonstrators. The vote was blocked by a joint veto by China and Russia, but the abstentions sent a clear message that these emerging powers were not prepared to follow the West’s lead.

The departure of Brazil from the 15-nation council will likely diminish the power of a bloc of emerging powers – Brazil, India, South Africa, or IBSA - that had banded together to challenge U.S.- and European-led initiatives on Libya and Syria. The departure of Lebanon, the council’s lone Arab member, could improve prospects for a tougher response to Syria, however, which dominates Lebanese political life.

But the changing of the guard will also see the exit of three reliable U.S. allies – Bosnia, Gabon, and Nigeria – who have consistently voted alongside the United States. Guatemala, Morocco, and Togo are also expected to vote with the United States.

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I am surprised that nobody has commented on India voting for Pakistan to be given a seat. Shouldn't we be encouraged and encourage things such as the MFN and this vote to start normalizing? I was particularly happy to hear the Pakistani US ambassador retort sharply to a press question with "so what? why should we always talk about Kashmir? there are many other things".

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Ah yes Hussien Haqqani. What a guy :rolleyes:

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**Pakistan played down fears of tensions with United States and India, after being elected on the 15 member United Nations Security Council, Express 24/7 reported on Saturday.

**Pakistan’s envoy to the United Nations, **Abdullah Haroon said Pakistan would work with all the members of the Security Council, especially India.

He said that good, working relations are being developed between India and Pakistan.
Haroon also acknowledged differences with United States over militant groups such as Haqqani network.
He said that Pakistan maintains its point of view and the need of the hour is to sit together and resolve the issues.
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As reported earlier, Pakistan secured 129 out of 193 votes in the UN General Assembly, exactly the two-thirds majority required to win the seat, to become a non-permanent member, replacing Lebanon, in a term that begins on January 2012 and will end in December 2013.

The seat is on the Asia-Pacific and Africa group, where Pakistan will join India amongst other countries as non-permanent members. Morocco was also elected as a member of the non-permanent seats in the UNSC. Pakistan’s sole competitor for the Asia-Pacific seat Kyrgyzstan managed to garner 55 votes.

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sorry, I meant UN ambassador, not US ambassador - the same gentleman in the picture above.

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Oh well then I have an even lower opinion of Abdullah Haroon. So the same comment remains just change the name :p