Pakistan-China forming new Strategic Alliance

A very interesting analysis. Musharraf made a significant policy speech the other day about breaking with the US alliance, if they did not appreciate our efforts. This coming after China has pledged to pump a further $12 billion investment into Pakistan, on top of the billions it has already invested.

Pakistan, China Forge Energy Alliance

If China is to become the economic powerhouse it envisions, the road to its new future could run, literally, through Pakistan. Or so the two nations hope. Last month, they inaugurated Gwadar Port in Pakistan’s Balochistan Province, the first step in an elaborate “energy corridor” that will one day ship Persian Gulf oil from Gwadar overland through Pakistan to China. China bankrolled the $200 million port and plans to put billions more into railways, roads, and pipelines linking Gwadar to China. Pakistan hopes it will generate $60 billion a year in transit fees in 20 years’ time. The deal could point to new fortunes on the horizon. But many observers wonder what price the two nations will pay for such inextricable energy ties. Gwadar shines a spotlight on a little-studied dimension of the global showdown for the world’s depleting oil. Pakistan, with Chinese money, hopes to reinvent itself as one of the region’s largest energy players — but it could also become a victim of the new Great Game, some observers say, crushed in the squeeze between the American and Chinese race for influence in volatile, lucrative Central Asia. As China positions itself as Pakistan’s chief patron, that could tilt Pakistan’s center of political gravity, observers add, outweighing U.S. influence dollar for dollar — and without the strings of human rights, democracy, and counterterrorism attached. “The Americans come with a great deal of ideological baggage. There’s none of that with the Chinese,” says Richard Russell, a professor of national security affairs at the National Defense University in Washington. “[Pakistan’s] interactions with the Chinese are not nearly as radioactive as with the U.S.” Analysts have long fretted over a possible collision course between the U.S. and China over energy. China is now the world’s second-largest consumer of oil after the U.S. Its consumption is expected to double by 2025, with 70 percent coming from the Middle East. Both giants are competing for finite supplies. “I think most security experts are looking at this very closely because this is the closest access point China has to the Persian Gulf,” says Gal Luft, executive director of the Institute for the Analysis of Global Security in Washington. “I don’t know that this is something the U.S. particularly likes.”

**Pakistan could be crucial to China’s bid for regional influence. Transporting oil is currently a long, expensive, and dangerous process for Beijing, traversing some of the most pirated seas in the world. For that reason, China is rapidly diversifying its sources, cutting billion-dollar deals from Sudan to Iran and scoping out alternative transport routes through Burma (Myanmar), Thailand, and Bangladesh. Pakistan is likely to be among the most important routes. **Sitting at the mouth of the Persian Gulf, the Gwadar Port, which becomes fully operational next year, will provide an overland energy corridor connecting the Middle East to Xinjiang, China’s future energy base. That will cut transport by 12,000 miles, shaving a month off the journey’s time and 25 percent off the fees. Washington speculates that Gwadar could also be part of China’s push to protect its growing energy system with a robust Navy. For Pakistan, Gwadar is a chance to refashion itself a global energy player — a dream in the making for several decades. The potential is rich, given its prize location near the Gulf, at the feet of the energy-rich Central Asian states and in the shadow of South and Southeast Asia, which houses a third of the world’s population and where energy demands are expected to soar. Given the energy game’s high stakes, some wonder if Gwadar will set off alarm bells in Washington. Last April, while hosting the China-Pakistan Energy Forum in Pakistan, President Pervez Musharraf was asked as much by a visiting delegate. But to a roar of applause, he quickly deflected the question: “I do not care about pressure from major powers. If Pakistan suffers pressure from certain major powers, I believe China will come forward to help us apply pressure on the other side.” Still, the opening of Gwadar is indicative of how China’s largesse in Pakistan is coming into open competition with the U.S. — and how that could alter the region’s political landscape.

China’s investment in Pakistan stands at more than $4 billion, with at least 114 projects under way, according to 2004 figures publicized by Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz. That’s analogous to the more than $6 billion Washington has given Pakistan since 9/11, although Uncle Sam’s money is earmarked for counterterrorism, not energy. Last March, China seemed to one-up the U.S. It announced that it would invest another $12 billion in Pakistan. There was no mention of human rights, democracy, or terrorism. The Democrat-led Congress, meanwhile, is threatening to pull funds if Mr. Musharraf doesn’t deliver more. The contrast in policy objectives is telling, analysts say. The more money China dishes out, the more Pakistan is likely to gravitate toward Beijing as a countervail to U.S. influence, given that Islamabad is increasingly pummeled to do more in the war on terrorism. ** “(It’s) a no-brainer,” says Mr. Russell. “(Pakistan’s) winning ticket over the long run is the Chinese.”** It’s a drift that Washington will certainly monitor, but ultimately may not mind, Russell adds. “India is going to play a greater role in democracy in the region and the Middle East,” he says. “The U.S. has more vested interests in India than Pakistan.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/13/world/main2680607.shtml

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i knew musharaf had some serious back-bone.
I pray its not only a threat and musharaf snap paksitan out of us alliance.

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To amreeka bad bad Pakistan a sheep in wolfs clothing will always offer fresh soya bean friendship… May be Chini bhai can import oil from Gawadar and amreek can import soya sauce.. :slight_smile:

China, Pakistan team up on energy
A new China-financed port on Pakistan’s coast ups the ante in the new ‘Great Game’ for energy resources in the Middle East and Central Asia.
By David Montero | Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor

** ISLAMABAD, Pakistan - If China is to become the economic powerhouse it envisions, the road to its new future could run, literally, through Pakistan.
Or so the two nations hope. Last month, they inaugurated Gwadar Port in Pakistan’s Balochistan Province, the first step in an elaborate “energy corridor” that will one day ship Persian Gulf oil from Gwadar overland through Pakistan to China. China bankrolled the $200 million port and plans to put billions more into railways, roads, and pipelines linking Gwadar to China. Pakistan hopes it will generate $60 billion a year in transit fees in 20 years’ time. **

The deal could point to new fortunes on the horizon. But many observers wonder what price the two nations will pay for such inextricable energy ties.
Gwadar shines a spotlight on a little-studied dimension of the global showdown for the world’s depleting oil. Pakistan, with Chinese money, hopes to reinvent itself as one of the region’s largest energy players – but it could also become a victim of the new Great Game, some observers say, crushed in the squeeze between the American and Chinese race for influence in volatile, lucrative Central Asia.

As China positions itself as Pakistan’s chief patron, that could tilt Pakistan’s center of political gravity, observers add, outweighing US influence dollar for dollar – and without the strings of human rights, democracy, and counterterrorism attached.
“The Americans come with a great deal of ideological baggage. There’s none of that with the Chinese,” says Richard Russell, a professor of national security affairs at the National Defense University in Washington. “[Pakistan’s] interactions with the Chinese are not nearly as radioactive as with the US.”
Analysts have long fretted over a possible collision course between the US and China over energy. China is now the world’s second-largest consumer of oil after the US. Its consumption is expected to double by 2025, with 70 percent coming from the Middle East. Both giants are competing for finite supplies.

“I think most security experts are looking at this very closely because this is the closest access point China has to the Persian Gulf,” says Gal Luft, executive director of the Institute for the Analysis of Global Security in Washington. “I don’t know that this is something the US particularly likes.”

Pakistan could be crucial to China’s bid for regional influence. Transporting oil is currently a long, expensive, and dangerous process for Beijing, traversing some of the most pirated seas in the world. For that reason, China is rapidly diversifying its sources, cutting billion-dollar deals from Sudan to Iran and scoping out alternative transport routes through Burma (Myanmar), Thailand, and Bangladesh.

Pakistan is likely to be among the most important routes.
Sitting at the mouth of the Persian Gulf, the Gwadar Port, which becomes fully operational next year, will provide an overland energy corridor connecting the Middle East to Xinjiang, China’s future energy base. That will cut transport by 12,000 miles, shaving a month off the journey’s time and 25 percent off the fees. Washington speculates that Gwadar could also be part of China’s push to protect its growing energy system with a robust Navy.

For Pakistan, Gwadar is a chance to refashion itself a global energy player – a dream in the making for several decades. The potential is rich, given its prize location near the Gulf, at the feet of the energy-rich Central Asian states, and in the shadow of South and Southeast Asia, which houses a third of the world’s population and where energy demands are expected to soar.

Given the energy game’s high stakes, some wonder if Gwadar will set off alarm bells in Washington. Last April, while hosting the China-Pakistan Energy Forum in Pakistan, President Pervez Musharraf was asked as much by a visiting delegate. But to a roar of applause, he quickly deflected the question: “I do not care about pressure from major powers. If Pakistan suffers pressure from certain major powers, I believe China will come forward to help us apply pressure on the other side.”

Still, the opening of Gwadar is indicative of how China’s largesse in Pakistan is coming into open competition with the US – and how that could alter the region’s political landscape.
China’s investment in Pakistan stands at more than $4 billion, with at least 114 projects under way, according to 2004 figures publicized by Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz. That’s analogous to the more than $6 billion Washington has given Pakistan since 9/11, although Uncle Sam’s money is earmarked for counterterrorism, not energy.

Last March, China seemed to one-up the US. It announced that it would invest another $12 billion in Pakistan. There was no mention of human rights, democracy, or terrorism. The Democrat-led Congress, meanwhile, is threatening to pull funds if Mr. Musharraf doesn’t deliver more.
The contrast in policy objectives is telling, analysts say. The more money China dishes out, the more Pakistan is likely to gravitate toward Beijing as a countervail to US influence, given that Islamabad is increasingly pummeled to do more in the war on terrorism.

“[It’s] a no-brainer,” says Mr. Russell. “[Pakistan’s] winning ticket over the long run is the Chinese.”
It’s a drift that Washington will certainly monitor, but ultimately may not mind, Russell adds. “India is going to play a greater role in democracy in the region and the Middle East,” he says. “The US has more vested interests in India than Pakistan.”

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I bet BB, and the next generation of Bhutto's/Zardari's are salivating at the thought. Don't be surprised if you see a Sharif, a Bhutto, or a Zardari still running the show in Pakistan in 20 years time. Maybe, the 10% would have increased to 25% :D

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Check out our troops engaging in War Games with Chinese special Forces

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china picked a good country to be friends with

:gadha:

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Energy corridor to China is a large part of our economic future. We are strategically placed.

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Why does China need to go through Pakistan to reach Central Asia, when Central Asia borders China? Doesn't make sense to me.

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But if America takes over Iran (Arabia is aleady in America's hands), what good is the Gwadar port as an oil route?

All I can think of is that the Gwadar port is nothing more than a Chinese naval base. Consider this that it's been an over year since Pakistan opened the Gwadar port and, not a single foregn ship has anchored there yet.

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Last month, they inaugurated Gwadar Port in Pakistan's Balochistan Province, the first step in an elaborate "energy corridor" that will one day ship Persian Gulf oil from Gwadar overland through Pakistan to China.

Gwadur port was only opened 3 weeks ago not one year ago.

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Nice pic.

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But I thought they finished developing it in 2006! Remember when China's premier was due to come to Gwadar (last february I think) but had to cancel his visit due to lack of security, embarrasing President Musharraf, who then launched huge military operations in Balochistan, taking out the Bugti scum!

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Amreeka first has to take over 6 million Eyeraqi sunnis forget about 60 million Eyranians shias.. Amreeka calls it Chini pearl in Arabian sea.

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^ You don’t seriously think America is losing the wars economically do you? Consider $13 trillion economy which spends only about $80 billion in Iraq.

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Wars are not won with $$$ alone if that was the case amreeka would not have run with its tail between its legs from VN and NK..... Its a matter of time before amreeka runs from eyraq with a spin...

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USA GDP (2007) - $13.67 trillion.
China GDP (2007) - $11.69 trillion.

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2006/01/data/dbcoutm.cfm?SD=2007&ED=2007&R1=1&R2=1&CS=3&SS=2&OS=C&DD=0&OUT=1&C=924-111&S=PPPWGT&RequestTimeout=120&CMP=0&x=74&y=15

Considering that the USA is only growing a mere 2.4% and China close to 9 or 10% a year, then the Red Dragon will be taking over as number one economy quite soon.

Pakistan is rightly taking advanatge of this fast emerging reality.

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Ah SB US economy is $13 trn in REAL TERMS, China is only at $12tn in PPP terms. In real terms China's economy is about $2trn.

Massive, but not in the US ballpark.

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Most people use PPP tersm nowadays, so those figures are more reliable and accurate.

Especially as China's forex reserves alone are approaching $1 trillion, and it's worldwide exports are fast heading towards another $1 trillion (quite close the the US figure).

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Nominal GDP is not $12 trillion for China. What your suggesting is GDP in the PPP method.

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Wrong!

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=247966