Pakistan captaincy

I don't agree. India had desi coaches too. India's board is also poorly run. the Sri Lankan board is very poorly run as well. how many times have their players revolted against the captain?

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That, together with the uneducated nature of the majority of our players...ie half of them have never been to school or graduated from it, leads to lack of discipline and players thinking they are bigger than the game and each other....which ultimately leads to captaincy changes, as everyone thinks they can be captain and everyone has their own agenda.
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again, I don't agree. there haven't been too many Imran Khans or Kumar Sangakarra or Anil Kumbles in the teams of the subcontinent. most players have been uneducated. just because someone can speak English doesn't make them educated.

is Tendulkar educated? or Sehwag? or Murali? or Mendis? was Kapil Dev educated? none of them are/were heavyweight intellectuals or have any higher education credentials behind them. how many times have you heard of the Indian or Sri Lankan team revolting against its captain? and not just once but over and over again.

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Poor PCB management, poor desi coaches, sifarishi managers, and uneducated players - all contribute to this mess.

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that word is the key imo. yes these things contribute to the mess. because of these conditions, players know that they can get away with being indisciplined. but these things are not the driving force for every onga bonga player lusting after the captaincy and thinking it is his birth right.

unprofessionalism of the players, the management and the board makes it easier for players to get away with their shenanigans. but the reason why they constantly revolt against captains is something else. just because you can get away with something doesn't mean you're going to do it. knowing that you can get away with it certainly helps. but the primary/main motivation has to come from somewhere else.

if I had to guess I'd say it has to be something financial. the captain must get some sort of perk or must make a lot more money than the rest of the team which is why everyone wants to become the captain and is willing to do the most underhanded thing to get there.

AA: Definately...a world class bowler can also be a good captain...Wasim was a good Captain...he was no Imran Khan, but certainly the best skipper we had after Imran in the modern era....with Afridi, I like his aggression and his effort on the field, but his batting remains the biggest concern...in the 50 over format...will he able to stop himself going for a first ball slog with his team at 56/5 or 100/6? Highly unlikely! A couple of kamakaze dismissals and people will be calling for his head...:) Then again, he may surprise me...Id like to see him succeed...but I still believe Yousef's class is still very much evident and he is a must in the ODI side...as such Yousef playing under Afridi in ODIs while still captaining the test side...could be a major headache as well..

samd: India's board is run 20 times more professionally than the PCB. The PCB is made up of a hand picked Chairman who is picked more due to political connections than administrative competence. As far as education goes, this has been a problem for the whole country as a whole, not just cricketers. Cricket is now more than just a passtime, its a professional game with a load of money...our players want the money but dont have the professionalism that goes with it....and education has a major role in this. Without the proper education, they rarely look at the big picture...ie their thought process is more narrow...they look for self benefit, money etc rather than looking at the pride of playing for ones country, or working as a team rather than as individuals.

Sure the captain gets lots of attention...the money is a factor too...but not every player is meant to be the captain...other countries understand this...in Pakistan every player thinks he should be captaining the team....which is the reason we have so many problems to begin with...

On a side note...there are reports of an altercation between Gul and Aamir - why am I not surprised...Intikhab has never done anything but create groupings and revolts...did we ever have a revolt under Woolmer,Pybus or Lawson? No we didnt. Its because they know how to keep players in line...whereas desi coaches are only out there thinking about themselves or the size of their next paycheque.

Re: Pakistan captaincy

Well team has been announced for Aussie tour and MoYo is captaining ODI team as well..Best of luck to all :jhanda: