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What would you say if i say these all can be considered under Islamic reform?
Islam covers all those issues I mentioned.
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I think i should take the charge...... *grin
I will make sure there is justice period on ifs no buts about that. Anyone who does a crime will be punished big time.
I wll not leave court cases hanging for days or months or years. IT must be over in a day or no more than a week. End of story claim the guy or women guilty or not.
Will have all the jails monitored by the national security guards.
Increase pay for labor workers and police men.
I like what shezad roy did; send your kid to school and we will give you money to support your family ;every day a child is out we will take pay for 3 days.
No more than 3 kids per family or we will come take the ovaries out or do somethign with male organs [will rethink on this one again...] ....
Anyone who rapes a women will get one of his balls removed in public. If he dares to does it again consider 2nd oen gone and the final piece will be gone if there is a third time. After that he will only be able to rape himself.
all those mullahs need ot get license from the president to be a leader of islamic place. Any extremist will be watched closely.
there will be psychological help for men to contorl their anger.
blow up all the bars and clubs its freakin islamic country for heavens sake man!anyone who is found drunk or selling sharab will be fined for 1 laks or serve hajre community of pakistan for 1 year. depending on the seriousness of crime might be spending 1 year in jail.
women must cover themselves with dupata - its okay if you dont watn to put it on your head but must have it on you covering you. most of the time your skin is the reason when gets the idea of rapped.
make kashmir a seperate country let those people decide..... enough with graveyards and wars. its time to go forward in life... done with fighting....if you cant beat them join them . so far we only won few wars and tons of graveyards for fighting against india.... Lets join them and rule the world.
sponsor kids from the nation who have the hightest top percentile to go out of the cournty and be back within 4 or 6 yrs with degrees to help the nation.
make sure no one gets married before 21 in pakistan.
invite other countires to come and invest in pakistan have theri offices there...
as a president be available to regular civilians... pop in to their towns every now and then to see if they are okay - its good to get out of your air conditioned offices you freakin presidents....
get all the roads made and slowly make solid homes in villages of pakistan.
traffic violations a huge issue. You will be given a ticket and must be paid in a week or your license will be suspended and you are found with a suspended license and behidn wheels have enough money for riksha then cause you wont be getting yoru car back for atleast a month and until you pay the fine and retake the test for license again. seat belts and phone violations will be major violations...
put streetlights every where... get traffic signals out....
make tons of more farms so vegetables rate go down .... make farming as a great profession so people would go in it.
i would takd advice from people of that village or that town to make it better. i will take suggestion of an engineer to how to go about it.
i will give numerous awards to those who wont take rishwat.... and those who do keep close eyes on them manage their bank accounts ....those people take rishwat cause they dont get paid enough. i will make sure they make a decent pay and police job is one of the highest paying jobs in pakistan.....
and thousands of other things..
wht do you think deedawar - issues of paksitan will be solved just like that... man i should take politics as my masters....
there is so much more i would like to do but my fingers are tired now....
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deedawar - its nice to see part of elephant from your side but when you step away and see the huge big a** you realize there is more to it as well. Its a women dominat world. You guys cant do jack without us. God gave you physical strength but gave the brains to us. what the point of stregth with no brains. YOu guys run to your mommy if we dont make dinner or keep the house clean. your mom does your laundry, cleans after you blah blah and blah. We have proven to take care of the house and work place. You guys failed so far you come home from 8 hr shift and go ’ bas thak gaya mere pao dabana’ what about us who are on duty 24/7
its a taboo issue that its male dominant crap - it looks good when you read it but reality is a bit different.
my cousin changed her car’s tire and i can check engine oil, know a little whats going with the car as well, i can tell the mechanic pretty much whats wrong with it. no i am not a mechanic but i ask aroudn i learn. just like youguys do - i try to learn about the car. I can give a jump to anyone’s car as well… wash it keep it nice and clean … i dont think man would be carrying me on his shoulder to travel. i think we both can travel the same amount if not women can travel more. cause we have more paitence then you guys.
agreed no doubt about that - but what can we do about your dirty minds. if i am having a conversation with a guy or talking to him about something important why would he start thinkign differenlty. Especially if i am standing 4 feet away from him have absolutely no physcial contact.
Admit it all you guys think of is sex sex and sex. …scan us and picture us naked…
to all of those - yoru daughter and sister gets scanned and pictured naked as well. so stop… - i dont even bother telling a guy not to stare any more cause i know eh will go ’ ap jesi nahi dekhi ’ - keep looking what can i say … tum logo ko gunnah mile ga and jab dozak mein ole pare gay agh ke tab maza aey ga…
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This topic like other topics regarding pakistan and islam is stupid- im gonna talk on basis of wealth and social class- because this is the main factor
simple fact- pakistan was created on the basis of islam- there would be no need otherwise
secondly, if shariah law existed, the rich westernised class would have to give up money to poor, and give up many of their corrupted ways, thats why the prophet (saw) said "those who are always god fearing are the poor"- why is that islamic shariah law never existed in pakistan- the rich rule the poor and many twist the words around- therefore its all about class- not about what your personal beliefs are, or what sects you come from.
we know as muslims- islam is the only solution- personal choice will always get in the way of real success- now there must be reasons why the "mehram" rule came or that BOTH men and women must wear hijab and that we should add interest in banking and many other laws- like one of you said "who are we judge what God has written, we will find out on the day of judgement, for now we must just follow what is written in the Quran"
But i know most of these people will not accept what i say "pride before anything else"- forget personal choice, forget assumptions and follow what is written
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Picoico,
No patronizing.
This is an obervation that comes with experience. And what I said was what women learn after experiencing their life in the way they describe "Their choice" in the WEST, as discussed with me many time by other women of mature age. Sometimes, sit with a woman of old age, like I do often with my mother and khalas and nani ami, listen to a mature women describing her life, both from eastern and western culture, and compare.
You'd say the same what I said...............
Deedawar,
Yes, Islam encompasses everything that I said. And as I said earlier, Pakistan was made in the name of Islam. There is NO DOUBT about it. But whether pakistan has been an Islamic country, I'd say probably NO. Instead, we made mockery of Islam in Pakistan and every government has been using the ticket of Islam for its own benefit. Except Liaqat Ali Khan, none was sincere in that.
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nia_khan,
I see the sharp tongue of yours. By the way, are you in your early teens?
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i fee like kissing you 
but i have reached my mid 20s yikes…
I do get very emotinal when it comes men and women issue. I don’t see men of pakistan doing a jack so i guess its turn for another woman to step forward. I get hurt when i see injustice and people walking over the weak ones. . so far the only thing i can do about it is support those who have raised their voice. And believe me every single meeting that i do have with any anyone on any of these issues. I make sure i speak loud enough so they can remember me forever.
IF you wouldnt want something for your family why would you want it for other’s? People have forgotten that Allah exist… urgh
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^ Ahem Ahem Cough Cough****
All boys, yeah all boys…
Its okay nia_khan, I didn’t read what you said…
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I have REALLY started to like this thread now
First Israeli girl
and now nia_khan
lets see who's next :p
...... but I give the credit to deedawar for starting this thread
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Agreed. 
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Good Nia Khan!
I did not mean to start girl/boy Men/Women fight.
All I stated was FACT. Good or Bad.
My point was that there is a reason why Islam promotes modesty in both men and women. There is reason why some rules are needed as I was responding to SW.
I do not disagree with your assesment of men. they have STRONGER hormone also to make their mind wonder about things hidden.
Women on the other hand have better self control. (Exceptions are there however based on my experience)
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^:)
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Well, it does relate to Pakistan and wrong assumptions of Pakistani men. Did not want to start this duscussion as I may keep going on. Anyway, in essence, I do see women in Pakistan also takingadvantage of men. Yes its true.
they take advanteage of being ‘Sinf-e-Nazuk’.
many men work, do grocery, look after outside work and Begum spends mney on shopping. Read magazines, go to hair designer or talk over phone. Other families men are just what you described.