Pakistan [among] worst place to live in the world

Now that’s some thing seriously to ponder about. Since Musharraf has taken over I have seen many of you bragging over how Pakistan is developing leaps and bounds and how General Saheb is reforming the Pakistan society.

Ireland ‘best place to live’, Pakistan [among] worst

LONDON: The luck is with the Irish in 2005, who will live in the world’s best country, according to predictions released this week by the respected London-based The Economist magazine. In their annual index of 111 countries, Economist editors gave Ireland top ranking in its “quality of life” index, while the world’s most powerful nation, the US, fell behind Finland to a humble 13th place. Dublin’s government has managed to combine “the most desirable elements of the new” — the worldd’s fourth-highest gross domestic product per capita, low unemployment and political freedoms — with “old” values like stable family and community, they said. Britain may have high income per person but is also plagued by societal and family breakdown, forcing it into a lowly 29th place, squeezed between Malta and South Korea. The top five for The Economist’s pick, following Ireland, are Switzerland, Norway, Luxembourg, Sweden and Australia. Down at the bottom, listed here from worst to not-as-awful among the 111 states, were Zimbabwe, Haiti, Nigeria, Russia and Pakistan. For “The World in 2005”, The Economist used surveys to gauge “life satisfaction” as determined by nine major factors, most importantly income, but also health, freedom, unemployment, family relations, community life, climate, gender equality and political stability and security. The data used were compiled by sources including the magazine’s own Economist Intelligence Unit and the UN. “Family life” was judged by divorce rates, gender equality by comparative salaries for men and women, and political freedom by an average of civil and political liberties. The editors responded to anticipated criticisms of its index, as many have rejected number-crunching surveys, which purport to understand human happiness. The magazine can only try, they said, “on the basis of what people around the world themselves say about life satisfaction. No doubt the critics will poke holes in this index too. Except, of course, in Ireland.”

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_19-11-2004_pg7_9

I won't disagree

Re: Pakistan - worst place to live in the world

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.... how Pakistan is developing leaps and bounds and how General Saheb is reforming the Pakistan society.

Ireland ‘best place to live’, Pakistan worst

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Dhir Mia! You forgot to list your great state of Bihar the land of King Lallu Parsad. Pay attention! you will find Bharat and Bangladesh listed even higher than Ireland.

Why do you skip your Mata-land from the list of 111 countries? Obviously the biggest demo-crazy deserves some place!

Obviously we are struggling in Pakistan. Long time ago, a scholar in New York highlighted "tenacity" of Pakistanis. I am hopeful that we will come out of the current mess in a relatively decent shape. While we struggle to better our side, please go do something about your great state of Bihar. Will ya?

i dono but from my personal experience Pakistan is the BEST place in the world to live in :)

India would also be in the worst list category. If Pakistan is India has to be. There is no much difference in India and Pakistan.

Dhir is not only an oppurtunisitic little cockroach who comes out of the gutter only to malign us but he also likes to embellish a little. Here is what BBC states un-equivocally:

"The worst of the 111 countries to live in was considered to be Zimbabwe, 'where things have gone from bad to worse under [President] Robert Mugabe'."

Yes pakistan has corruption and it has corrupt rulers and currently it has a puppet and society has poverty on massive levels.

But despite this i cannot honestly say its worst place to live because i have been to few places in the world

The good out weigh the bad points and also it has potential which it has had now for a very long time!

I wuda thought that Falluja would be worse place to live than Pakistan. Oh well. What can we do. I think if one can afford 3 meals a days, have somewhat decent healthcare and alcohol is available (even in the black), any place is good enough. The rest of the stuff is just personal preferences.

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**dhir..

we can take criticism.. but it has to be intellectually honest.**

Probably according to a london based magazine it is the worst place to live, leking hamaray liye to woh jagah jannat say kam nahin. Every place has some faults, and Pakistan does too. But trust me its not that bad of a place to live.

I am guessing North Korea is at the very bottom, the worst place to live.

Why does every discussion about pakistan turn into an India vs Pakistan argument?

Dhir,

Come on man. India ain't that great when compared to Pakistan either.

We're like two last rankers in class who are bragging but who failed the least number of subjects.

This silly, - mine's bigger than yours type arguments, especially about standard of living etc. serve no useful purpose.

Dhir, I think in Pakistan out of 140 million population no one is dying of hunger. what about the datas in India?

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Dhir,

Come on man. India ain't that great when compared to Pakistan either.

We're like two last rankers in class who are bragging but who failed the least number of subjects.

This silly, - mine's bigger than yours type arguments, especially about standard of living etc. serve no useful purpose.
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A stangely intelligent comment from you.
So did you at least try watching the NBA hilites tonite like I advised you a few weeks back. Tonight was a doozy.

Honestly, I dont see how these ratings make any sense. Ask somebody who lives in Mozambique or any of the Sub Saharan African countries with HIV infection rates close to 50% about great places to live

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Dhir, I think in Pakistan out of 140 million population no one is dying of hunger. what about the datas in India?
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In 2003, 20,000 farmers died of starvation and 20,000 commited suicide for the same reason.... In one of the most prosperous regions 9000 children starved to death.....

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India would also be in the worst list category. If Pakistan is India has to be. There is no much difference in India and Pakistan.
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wrong. wishful thinking, but India and Pakistan are completely different countries which have taken completely different paths since 1947. Political, governmental, economic, educational, social, etc. situations are all vastly different in the two countries.

there must be a reason why India is ranked 69th on this list, while Pakistan is at the bottom.

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Dhir, I think in Pakistan out of 140 million population no one is dying of hunger. what about the datas in India?
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That is probably a statistic made up by the govt of Pakistan. No one can really say if people are dying of hunger or not.

beauty lies inthe eys of the beholder.. not some article writer in NY...

‘Can Islam change’ (New Statesman, 13/9/2004), I have discussed the reforms undertaken in Morocco, Indonesia, Malaysia and even in India. In fact the only countries where Islam has not transformed are Iran, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

Dhir, if you get your jollies out of making Pakistan look bad then kudos!

I, as a Pakistani, wish for economic development in all of South Asia. I hold nothing against India, but these petty issues really get to me. Bring out the history books, and look at Pakistani macroeconomic development keeping in mind it's origins where it lacked a manufacturing base, pathetic fx reserves and the lack of civil institutions from independence, then lets make comparisons.

To be fair, Pakistan has missed many boats that wouldve let it become an Asian Tiger, but hey its still a lot better off alone than with India.