Paki Yobs in the UK

Yob: Thug, druggie, gangster.

Firstly let me make it clear that I am not a coconut (term for white-wannabes: brown on the outside but white at heart), yes I class myself as a Brit but I’m also very proud of being a Muslim and of my Paki heritage.

FOBs (immigrants) Pakis are not like the British born Paki yobs at all, they are very polite and well mannered (they have horrendous accents and fashion sense but that’s forgiveable).

I am proud of my Paki heritage but I’m very ashamed to be associated with these filthy scum bags who identify as “rude boiz”.

It is because of these hooligans that all Pakis get a bad reputation.

These filth bags start fights, mug old ladies, act racist (towards white people), deal drugs, vandalise property and intimidate people and then a lot of them go onto join and support terrorist or terrorist sympathiser-groups (such as those led by that Bakri guy and the guy who has got a hook for a hand) who contrary to the spirit of Islam preach hatred against this country and our fellow citizens, all whilst living here and claiming job seekers allowance, child-support and a thousand other monetary benefits from the British goverment, they leech of this country and then go on to bite the hand which feeds them, talk about pissing in the plate you eat from, it’s the height of Namak Haraami.

This country use to be very accepting and welcoming of different cultures and religions, it was a haven for minorities but now racist far right groups like the BNP (British National Party) are growing in power all thanks to Paki Yobs who are driving decent white people towards racism, and who can blame them for turning racist in the face of everything our Paki yobs do? As a Paki I want Afghan refugees to be expelled from Pakistan because I hate the way they cause trouble in Pakistan, the way they are ungreatful to Pakistan and hate it, siding with our enemy India, it boils my blood so I can relate to the growing number of white people in this country who want us all out.

Nobody hates Indians as much as they hate us, and the reason for that is obvious, Indians play their cards right and are long sighted, they are academically orientated, they don’t act “well hard” to stroke their little egoes, they win over peoples hearts and minds, they influence peoples political alliances, they make something out of themselves whilst we stay at the bottom of the social ladder thinking by beating up a few goras and earning a bit of dosh through drugs we’ve made it big but in reality we’re below everyone.

This country gives us so many opportunities but we don’t utilise them, Indians become doctors and lawyers, even Brngalis are better than us they become succesful filthy rich bussiness men with their resteruants and we Pakis are cab drivers and factory drivers and God forbid will probably remain that way for generation to come if we don’t get over our “well hard” attitudes.

It’s because of Paki yobs that racist far right groups like the BNP will come into power, they will deport us all or make life hell for us in Britain so that we’ll want to move out, these Yobs will come to their senses when they’re deported and starving to death back in Pakistan, it wont be like the fun trips to Pakistan when we’ve got British pounds to spend, they’ve no education or skills and even drugs wont earn in Pakistan where people don’t have enough money to feed their stomachs.

We British Pakis/Muslims need to sort our cummunities out before it’s too.

The few educated and open minded British born Muslims that we have should join Mosque committees and take up the office of Imam instead of immigrants who as nice as they are can’t communicate the true message of Islam to their congregations nor do they undertand the needs of place and times because of cultural and linguistic gap.

Mosques as our community centers need to take a more active role in educating parents about spending less time earning money in the kebab house or taxi base and more on giving their children a proper upbringing.

I think Mosques should also have snooker clubs and football (soccer) clubs and drug awareness programs (which preach the Haraamness of dealing drugs) to keep young Pakis of the streets so that they grow up to be a credit to their religion and countries.

Mosques need to take a more active role in bettering community relations with other religions (organise football/soccer matches with local churches/synagogues so that the Imam, Priest and Rabbi can sit together and enjoy a nice cappucino together whilt watching the boys play football together. I wish that tiome comes when we can all coexist in harmony, Christians can carry on believing the only way to God is through Christ and Muslims can carry on beliving their is no Lord but Allah but we can still coexist as fellow humans.

Most white people are lovely at heart once you get to know them, they only hate Pakis and join the BNP because they feel intimidated by Paki yobs.

So many white people have said to me they hated Pakis before they met me but I’ve shown them a beautiful side of Pakistan/Islam.

We should give respect to earn respect.

Root out the yobs/terrorists in our midst who spoil for the rest of us and our future generations.

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Great post :k:

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Excellent thread.

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So there is a lot that insightful youth like yourself can do, right? Why not start an awareness organization that documents problem makers, and offers them some rehab to renew their lives as responsible citizens? You can work with the law enforcement agencies, and be a beacon of awareness for the local community. There need to be more objective muslim organizations, that work with the sanction of responsible muslim elders (male and female) to investigate every mosque and keep an eye out for any miscreants. A sort of self-policing system. People will at least stop using mosques as recruiting grounds, and if you reach out to the youth, you can offer opportunities to people, and also have a large amount of man-power to lobby at the government level for more rights and less discrimination.

We do awareness projects here every year, and I can't tell you how helpful it is. Those who hate us may always hate us, but there are always people who are just confused about us, and it gives them some clarification as to who we are as people. It also provides an opportunity for the youth to get involved as oppose falling into the wrong hands.

Turn your anger into something productive and I think you'll go far.

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Nosherwan, I want to subscribe to a RSS feed for your posts or something. Your posts always impress me like woah!

Honestly, you need to seriously publish your stuff. I'm not even joking, there's places out there looking for talented writers such as yourself. Masha'Allah you got some insight!

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stupid thread

You obviously don't get what this is about. Its a valid problem here in the UK.

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Nosherwan, whilst u have some valid points about young (and NOT SO YOUNG!) pakistani men trying to behave like black gangsters and giving pakistanis a bad name, I do not believe that this is the main reason why the majority of people switch to supporting the BNP.

A lot of their reasons have to do with the propaganda spread by the BNP and similar organisations that the British government give all ethnics free homes from the council and benefits, "they take our jobs", terrorism etc - RATHER than the fake black gangster wannabes - ridiculous fools as they are.

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I agree with Rupay. Whilst there is an upsurge in yob like and uncouth behaviour, one also has to look at the bigger picture. BNP, just like any other party has their own campaigns. Maybe we need to consider how they are brainwashing people into supporting them. The reason why they are growing in power is due to the media, the campaigns and this constant threat of 'terrorism'. Furthermore, the BNP party does not just act upon Pakistani behaviour, they do not like anything 'foreign'; be that a Pakistani, Indian, alien etc.

guys, the BNP would just attack another group even if all Pak behave within British society. It is a pointless battle to change ourselves; the community is better off to tackle the ideology of the BNP which is fundamentally anti freedom and has attained a MOB culture of violence along with the English defense league. However, what is the point? the far right entities of the Pakistani community have very similar overlapping school of thought and any debate would be pointless.

Probably the best post I have read, excellent post mate :k:

DITTO!

I live here too and the amount of scum I have seen is unbelievable. Majority of the Pakistanis in the UK aren’t educated hence you get the yob kind as their children don’t give a eff towards towards education as well. And tbh the only time they ‘turn’ Pakistani is when our cricket team comes here. Its all fake. And even then they support Pakistan to get into the faces of the white people and not out of love for our country. The amount of crap they come up against Pakistan is unbelievable. Pakistan jab jaatain hain apnay laal british passport har kisi kay moo ke aagay deekhatay hain. Typical scum. Put it this way, my family has had more problems with these Asian low-lifes than any white racists. I went to college in Manchester, a racially diverse area, college was a joke. For every decent hardworking Pakistani there were 6 of these scum and the racists behavior against whites, Chinese, Russians, you name it, was alarming. That not only gives us a bad name but also fits hardworking decent Pakistanis into these yobbish sterotype, which is harsh.

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'Majority of the Pakistanis in the UK aren't educated hence you get the yob kind as their children...'

Are there statistics to prove this?

Also, just because one's parents may be uneducated does not mean that their children will also follow suit. In fact I think the trend is that Pakistani's are now realising the importance of education and are not only steering themselves, but all offspring in that direction too. I know plenty of parents who may not have been educated but their children are working very hard and have worked hard to make something of themselves. You get good and bad in every society.

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First and for most people should be judging individuals and not the society. The society is in no way responsible of the actions of any individuals. Individuals make these choices to take drugs, sex, violence and no body should be feel ashamed for these individuals and nor should any body feel they should take responsibility for them. They made these sh*t choices, not us.

dildirani we don't need stats, examples are all around us. So far every 'yob' kind Ive met has uneducated parents. Every educated Pakistani Ive met has an educated father.

Take a stroll thorugh Wilmslow, Macnhester, Liverpool, Stoke and Bradford and MAJORITY of Pakistanis that reside there are cabbies, Shopkeepers-> uneducated. And then look at their children.

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Whilst I was at uni, there were lots of Pakistanis. Quite a number came from the same type of backgrounds you are mentioning but this did not deter them from getting an education. In fact for many, it was something which motivated them.

Whilst I am not denying that these 'yobs' do exist, I think it is unfair to say that it is their background which wholly contributes to them becoming yobs. You can have educated parents and still turn out on the contrary.In places like Bradford,Oldham and other dense Pakistani areas, you will see the influence of gang culture. Those who can get out of it, do so but some succumb to an easier life.

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Were they born and bred here? If they were from Pakistan then that doesn't apply (as the culture i.e. 'gang' and other factors are completely different to Pakistan)

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Born and bred here.

The international students were mainly those from the middle/upper classes, so these theories, I agree do not apply to them.

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Hmm, oh well I admit I was a bit wrong, I based my opinion on the basis that I am at university and the only Pakistanis I see are from Pakistan but fair enough as thats not the case obviously! :) I agree with you that there are good and bad everywhere, but unfrotunately in the UK its more likely that the young Asian youth that will succumb to this 'gang' or yob culture as is it becoming evident.

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**Nosherwan mashallah a well written post backed up with reasoning and logic:k:.. as a Brit Pakistani… I share your sentiments in regards to Paksitanis “giving “the hard working and genuine Brit/Paks a very bad name…in the last 8 years there has been a mass influx of Pakistanis from Pakistan and most have adjusted and become accepted within our communities but there are some who have totally not respected the sheer hard work and race relations of 3rd and 4th generations “Asians”.. who arrived in the UK in the late 70’s. You can clearly see just how “ghettoised” certain communities have become. Communites that were once peaceful and accepted amongst their white counterparts and who had earned those rights through education and hard work , are now resembling into " heavily dominated Pakistani communities” who do not show any attitudes toward progression , empathy or modern outlooks. Now what is apparent is that as what your post clearly states.. communites are almost terrorised by a yob like attitude and culture, such as groups of our young boys, in full regalia ( chains, shaven eyebrows, every 2nd word an expletive) who “hang” about in group formation, blocking entire roads.. and now with their very expensive " rude boy” cars namely your pimped up Honda Civic to Golfs to Q8s… who just block roads to have an “Emirati style” chat… being an oldy… on this forum :bummer:… Im speaking with many years of experience .. :fatee:.. at least Emiratis do it with style and smell nice!!!)…the point being that because of the " new generations"… and their “gangster style mentality”… the reputation of Brit Asians is rapidly fading in very negative lights…A happy community of integration and respect is slowly being ousted by rough, narrow minded Paksitanis. **

Apologies for any inadvertant offence caused to anyone who may not share my humble opinion.

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Australian are after indains

UK ppl are after pakistanis

thats interesting ..............