and mr paki, by calling shalwar kameez 'gay' you have single handedly insulted every single ethnicity of Pakistan, you may not realize it but most people in pakistan still wear shalwar kameez(ill assure you this you can fnd in every single provnice in pakistan)
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So Jeans/T-Shirt is not just western clothes, they're universal clothes. Arabs, Persians, Afghans, Chinese, Japanese, Africans, South/Central-Americans and Europeans all wear them alike.
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Correct me if I'm not wrong. Was Denim not invented by Levis? an American company. You cant be seriously suggesting shalwar kameez does not "wear" with anyone outside S Asia. Infact I often wear it in the UK.
Next you will be claiming we all need to eat from McDonalds, and burgers & fries in super size is the universal food.
I dont find ripped jeans, falling off ppls butts and getting under their shoes nice in appearance either.
you will not see me in those clothes, niether will you see me in a dirty, malgaja, dirty pastel colored kurta shalwaar with a filthy chappal either. I wear kurta shalwars frequently, but they are clean, pressed, in decent colors, and with clean and proper sandals or khussay.
-Promiscuous Paki- got an odd point here.. he says that shalwar kurta is scruffy and GAY.. but it IS our NATIONAL DRESS (kind of our identity).. and assuming that he's a Paki too he just called himself GAY..
and by the way if you think that jeans/t-shirt etc. are universal clothes, let me tell you that there is nothing like universal clothing.. universal (in this sense) means multi-cultural.. and multi-cultural means a point where many cultures meet.. for example Toronto is a multi-cultural (or universal) city because there are PEOPLE OF MANY CULTURES living in it.. now a good definition of universal dressing would be a kameez over a sari, and a sweatshirt over a kameez, and an arabian headcover topping it..
BY THE WAY MR. PAKI NO ONE FORCES YOU TO WEAR A SHALWAR KAMEEZ AND IF YOU ARE OF THE OPINION THAT IT IS GAY YOU SHOULD FIRSTLY CHANGE YOUR NAME..
Most Shalwar Kameez is just uncomfortable and scruffy whilst the more formal varieties such as Sherwani seen at weddings and eids just shout out DRAG-QUEEN, FLABOYANT-PANSY, GAY, FAG, TRANNY etc etc.
That's because you saw uncouth, uncultured gits wearing it like they were doing their parents a favour.
Shalwar-quameez and sherwani look very elegant on people. If you have a good posture and big shoulder, all the better! If you have a sloppy posture to begin with and you are a slob who doesn't iron them properly, it'll naturally look 'scruffy'. Shalwar-quameez or a sherwani are attires for real men, ninnies need not apply.
risc and ikarhoon actually I’m not too impressed with Western culture either, I think it’s very sterile, artificial, boring, dull and un-artistic.
Aap ko bain al-aqwami libaas (pant shirt) ka ek faaeda bataoun jo aap ko kaafi pasand aaey ga? We have only two present-day similarities with our mateys to the east (who loath us, so feelings are mutual); language and dress (the third was garam-masala but even the British eat curry now so that's something international), if we change dress that’s one less similarity, in my opinion what you call “western” attire I’d say is “universal” attire because it’s warn all over the world by all races, ethnicities and religions (including our brethren in Turkey, Iran and Arabia etc.) and it shares about as much in common with the historical costumes of the eastern nations as it does with the western, so it’d not be associating us with any one in particular whereas the way we dress at the moment is one more similarity with you know who, which I'm sure we can do without, know what I mean?
Plus you have to admit the way most of it is warn is unstylish anyway, I admit I have a few very regal looking ones myself but like Peerzadeh Sahib mentioned they only look nice if they’re worn properly. Most Pakis just mix and match; chavy rockport shoes or worse white sneakers, baseball cap, grandma knitted jumper, sweat-top….. Man that looookssss nastyyyyyyyyyyy, so I thought it’d be easier to do away with it altogether.
I guess like Fraudz said it can look quite stylish if;
-It’s tailored properly: no shirt-like collars (chinese-collar or no collar), no circular ends they look paindu (rectangular ends always look best), no visible pockets or buttons.
-No mix ‘n’ match of eastern and ‘western’. Warn with the right footwear (Sandals, not white sports sneakers/trainers). Warn with the right outerwear (Shawl not hooded parker).
-Sober colours and styles (not like Indians getting carried away like they’re working for some circus with colours a five year old would be shy of using, they have bad taste in interior design as well, ever seen an Indian drama? My god, they have bright pink curtains in curly archways like everywhere.
But it’s just easier to move with the world and stick to universal attire because Pakis can’t carry of South-Asian wear and I have a phobia for it due to the reason I mentioned above, agar woh na pehntay to phir theek tha, God I’m so going to get banned.
So what? It's only a fabric, don't even know what your point is here... They probably wear a million more fabrics invented by us, like Muslin was brought to the west by Muslims that's why it's called Muslin.
Muslims taught them the use of cutlery, the use of shampoo, soap, perfumed oils, the need to have a bath more than once year..
^^ I dont think you realize that most pakistanis stilll cant afford to look stylish. There are soo many people out there who cant afford more then a pair of shalwar kameez, and you want them to go out and spend a sh!tload of money on some pant-shirt dress? man, you have to realize these are people in pakistan which probably have never seen alot of(you seem like a city person) in the many villages who barely have enough money to feed there families. rather then to try to change the wardrobe of pakistani, more effort shoudl be concentrated on improving there socio-economic conditions.
I hail from a rural area myself but a developed one, more of a town than a village but it's not one of the big cities.
My post was primarily for city folk but you don't have to be rich to be metrosexual.. Better Darzis/Tailors is what is needed, Pakis are talented ppl, it wont take them long to start sewing pant-kameez (it'll use less fabric, that's for sure), during my vacations all my shirts were sewn by the local tailor.
Aap ko bain al-aqwami libaas (pant shirt) ka ek faaeda bataoun jo aap ko kaafi pasand aaey ga? We have only two present-day similarities with our mateys to the east (who loath us, so feelings are mutual); language and dress (the third was garam-masala but even the British eat curry now so that's something international), if we change dress that’s one less similarity, in my opinion what you call “western” attire I’d say is “universal” attire because it’s warn all over the world by all races, ethnicities and religions (including our brethren in Turkey, Iran and Arabia etc.) and it shares about as much in common with the historical costumes of the eastern nations as it does with the western, so it’d not be associating us with any one in particular whereas the way we dress at the moment is one more similarity with you know who, which I'm sure we can do without, know what I mean?
Plus you have to admit the way most of it is warn is unstylish anyway, I admit I have a few very regal looking ones myself but like Peerzadeh Sahib mentioned they only look nice if they’re worn properly. Most Pakis just mix and match; chavy rockport shoes or worse white sneakers, baseball cap, grandma knitted jumper, sweat-top….. Man that looookssss nastyyyyyyyyyyy, so I thought it’d be easier to do away with it altogether.
I guess like Fraudz said it can look quite stylish if;
-It’s tailored properly: no shirt-like collars (chinese-collar or no collar), no circular ends they look paindu (rectangular ends always look best), no visible pockets or buttons.
-No mix ‘n’ match of eastern and ‘western’. Warn with the right footwear (Sandals, not white sports sneakers/trainers). Warn with the right outerwear (Shawl not hooded parker).
-Sober colours and styles (not like Indians getting carried away like they’re working for some circus with colours a five year old would be shy of using, they have bad taste in interior design as well, ever seen an Indian drama? My god, they have bright pink curtains in curly archways like everywhere.
But it’s just easier to move with the world and stick to universal attire because Pakis can’t carry of South-Asian wear and I have a phobia for it due to the reason I mentioned above, agar woh na pehntay to phir theek tha, God I’m so going to get banned.
That’s the question my children ask. who were born and brought up here When they go to Pakistan they dress up in shalwar kameezes and according to my daughter (who normally wears American Eagle Abercrmbie etc.) finds it really uncomfortable wearing western outfits because of the weather and the looks she gets when she is in public. Their question; Pakistan has such a beautiful culture then why is everyone so Gora wannabe? Its the glamour of the west that has us all. And that has come through their education… centuries of education. and we prefer to copy its the easy way out!!!
A very good point that you raised there...Clothes...and then the clothes that look good on you...are wayyyy down in the list for an average Pakistani..who spend most of the time just trying to meet corners....It is so very true wat you have said in your post. Most of the people see the world with their rosy colored glasses...We do need to try to alleviate the poverty that drowns almost 70 percent of the Pakistani Population. Just the wide gap between the Nation's rich wannabe goras and the poor class who most of the time are at the nature's mercy due to insufficient clothing and shelter for protection.
I guess Needs come first then the Wants.