Pak will be failed State by 2015: CIA

system · February 13, 2005, 2:55pm

Futile crusades of a failed state. Any comments on the predictions of CIA or a evil plan from the enemies of the pure state?

Pak will be failed State by 2015, US intelligence agencies say

New Delhi: Pakistan will be a “failed” state by 2015 as it would be affected by civil war, complete Talibanisation and struggle for control of its nuclear weapons, premier US intelligence agencies have said in an assessment report.

Forecasting a “Yugoslavia-like fate” for Pakistan, the US National Intelligence Council (NIC) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in a jointly prepared Global Futures Assessment Report have said “by year 2015 Pakistan would be a failed state, ripe with civil war, bloodshed, inter-provincial rivalries and a struggle for control of its nuclear weapons and complete Talibanisation”.

“Pakistan will not recover easily from decades of political and economic mismanagement, divisive policies, lawlessness, corruption and ethnic friction,” said the report quoted by former Pakistan High Commissioner to United Kingdom Wajid Shamsul Hasan in an article in the ‘South Asia Tribune’.

http://www.satribune.com/archives/jan05/P1_wajid3.htm

Titled ‘Will Pakistan Army invade Balochistan as per the NIC-CIA Plan’, the former senior diplomat said "in the context of Balochistan, one would like to refer to the 2015 NIC report. It forecast a Yugoslavia-like fate for Pakistan. “The military operation that has been put in motion there would further distance the Baloch people from rest of the country. That perhaps is the (NIC-CIA) Plan,” Hasan said.

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050213-055110-5116r.htm

ehsan · February 13, 2005, 4:50pm

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This is the same CIA which predicted with "absolute certainty" that Iraq had WMD's. Yeah right.

Talwar · February 13, 2005, 5:11pm

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CIA should stop this kind of nonsense. Otherwise they wil lose whatever remaining credibility they have.

Some1 · February 13, 2005, 5:52pm

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If true....I would say GOD SAVE INDIA. (And this could very well be true if you think about Pakistan post-Musharaff).

India's neighborhood is getting messier by the day.

Bangladesh is a basket case for all practical purposes with Bangladeshis pouring into India in tens of thousands every year.

Nepal is already a failed state....no question about it.... Most well-to-do Nepalese have either migrated or are migrating into India.

3/4th or Sri Lanka is a war zone.

India itself is no US of course. It has its share of internal conflicts but it remains the only country in South Asia with some semblance of order, democracy and economic strength. But with 1 billion people (30% below poverty line, 40-45% illiterate), refugees pouring from all sides and a nuclear neighbor that could be a failed state by 2015.....Well....

skhan · February 13, 2005, 6:22pm

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Cia? Lmao

Verizon · February 13, 2005, 6:37pm

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Before I engage in name calling, and calling CIA a bad evil thing that it is, or for that matter all intelligence agencies are, I have a question where is the report? I saw staribune and manoramaonline, but no cia.gov.

Halaku_Khan_1 · February 14, 2005, 12:51am

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2015.... State of affairs suggest it already is a failed State.

Halaku_Khan_1 · February 14, 2005, 1:00am

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P.S. We need a scholar in this thread.

Verizon · February 14, 2005, 1:02am

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Re Post #7
That better be your opinion and not a statement. Or else I would have no choice but label you Pathans as Ghadars and Namak Harams as well. Pakistan is looked at quite highly when it comes to diplomacy in the Muslims world. No matter what ppl would like to portray Pakistan as; it will be a moderate state. Israel and US look towards Pakistan when it comes to diplomacy in the ME. Our Jawans are actively sought for in the Peace keeping missions across the world. The world needs us just like the the world needs US. We are needed due to strategic and geographic nature of our country.

Halaku_Khan_1 · February 14, 2005, 1:08am

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^ V - It's all about want's and need's. Pakis have needs, Military and Economic. Dangle the carrott and the rabbit will follow. Our Jawans are actively sought because the leader's can be bought cheap.

Verizon · February 14, 2005, 1:13am

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Good then; the more conflicts around the world the more money our jawans bring in and one more reason that it aint gonna fail, unless CIA wants peace by 2015 on planet earth.

Halaku_Khan_1 · February 14, 2005, 1:14am

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Smart Thinkin'

Madhanee · February 14, 2005, 1:27am

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2015 AD or Hijrah? because going by Hijra clanader we still have some 600 years to mess it all up.

Pakistan Zindabad.

Shak_killS · February 14, 2005, 1:59am

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but where is the CIA source link? or this report comming out of new dehli dreams.

Abdali · February 14, 2005, 2:13am

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I did a google and got 6 hits and guess who is reporting them all … BTW I also found something similar about India of course by the great CIA who cannot find a hooker in a whore house.

Talwar · February 14, 2005, 2:45am

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http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/globaltrends2015/index.html

system · February 14, 2005, 2:47am

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Let's see 2015 - that's 10 years away. Which means atleast 11 govts / juntas. What are the odds atleast one of them wouldn't have some sense?

system · February 14, 2005, 2:48am

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http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=2d731615d84a6277

Gul slams US intelligence agencies’ report on Pak
ISLAMABAD: Former chief of Inter Services Intelligence Gen (Retd) Hameed Gul said that US intelligences agencies propaganda to pronounce Pakistan a failed state by 2015 will remain unsuccessful.
Talking to Online while condemning the assessment report of US agencies National Intelligence Council and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in which they have said 'Pakistan will be a “failed” state by 2015 as it would be affected by civil war, complete Talibanisation and struggle for control of its nuclear weapons, he said, these agencies have always hatched conspiracies against Pakistan.

“They always express themselves to be our friends but deep from the inside they are the enemies of our homeland, and hatch conspiracies against us but we will fight till the last drop of our blood and their designs against Pakistan will remain unsuccessful,” he added.

He went on to say that Pakistan has many foes and that is only because of the subordination the government shows to others.

However, nobody could do anything wrong to the nation which has a desire to live and that desire exist among us, he said.

“We will fight for every inch of our homeland till presence of last drop of blood in our veins,” he noted.

Former ISI chief further said that incumbent government has lost its basic track.

“Even the rulers do not have gall to mention the foreign hand that is behind worsening condition of Balochistan,” he maintained.

Responding to a query he made it clear that Benazir Bhutto will never ever strike a deal with the government. She, he said is a seasoned politician and is only using bargaining tactics, she really knows what she is doing.

“Doors of talks never shut down in politics however, President General Pervez Musharraf’s attitude will not help in political reconciliation,” he underlined.

Gen (Retd) Hameed Gul also said that incumbent government has set aside Kashmir the core issue of contention between Pakistan and India and is negotiating on other matters, which are inferior to Kashmir issue.

He said that India has gained success by diverting Pakistan’s attention from Kashmir to Baglihar Dam.

“India has bought some extra time to complete its agenda and if one looks at future Pakistan at present stance will fail on both fronts and will neither get Kashmir nor be able to get Baglihar issue settled,” he observed.

system · February 14, 2005, 3:19am

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Gul! what a joker. He will talk to anyone and say anything to see his name in print again.

Same token, thje CIA has no credibility anymore about anything - ever since they got cowed down by W

Abdali · February 14, 2005, 3:36am

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Here is excerpt from CIA web site potsed by Talwar…

Pakistan in 2015. Pakistan, our conferees concluded, will not recover easily from decades of political and economic mismanagement, divisive politics, lawlessness, corruption and ethnic friction. Nascent democratic reforms will produce little change in the face of opposition from an entrenched political elite and radical Islamic parties. Further domestic decline would benefit Islamic political activists, who may significantly increase their role in national politics and alter the makeup and cohesion of the military—once Pakistan’s most capable institution. In a climate of continuing domestic turmoil, the central government’s control probably will be reduced to the Punjabi heartland and the economic hub of Karachi.