PAK vs AUS - 5th Match

Keep dreaming :rolleyes:
A typical Indian reply after loosing an arguement.
When will you people learn.
sighzz…

loosing arguement???
hum.. can you tell me what are we arguing about???

You still haven't replied why India has pathetic bowlers!

abhay Aneesay, you still haven't PM your address.
Hurry Up!

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abhay Aneesay, you still haven't PM your address.
Hurry Up!
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mujay ghar to pohanch lenay day.

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mujay ghar to pohanch lenay day.
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well this topic has been discussed manytimes.

Reason is same as
why pakistan has pathetic batsmen?

Pakistan batsman pathtic ?? :eek: :eek:

I know they have been a little inconsistent for the past couple years but they are no where close to being pathetic, kind of like Indian batting lineup.

Ask anyone and they will tell you Pakistan has one of the best batting lineups in the world but very inconsisten sometimes.

Hey Asif_K I'm allowed to diss Azhar Mahmood as he lacks the credentials to play in the PAKISTAN side, he must compete with Wasim,Waqar,Shoaib, Sami, Zahid, Mohammed Akram, Razzaq and a host of others-all of which are far better bowlers, his batting is ok-but not enough to merit a place alone-which is the only way he wqould make it. But you, you have no right to insult him-let us list some of the Indian cricketers he is better then!

Dodo Ganesh
Abey Kuruvilla
Agit Agarkar
Sanjay Bangar
Robin Singh
Tinu Youhannan
Jacob Martin
Raju
Prasad

As for Harb, yeah he's a better bowler then Azhar but overall as a cricketer he's not even clsoe. Azhar is a decent bat-3 test tons against SA in SA, and a average bowler. He's a yard faster then Ganesh, bangar and Kuruvilla-all of whom could only ever have played for India-and a better player allround.

Watch what you say regarding Cricket kid, cos this is the one field where Pakistan is without doubt superior to India.

Our best allrounder is ABDUR RAZZAQ-far better then your Agarkar. Mahmood is a spare-and he'd walk into your ODI team-not to mention be one of the fastest bowlers in your pathetic nations cricketing history.

Harbajan is way more hairy.

sure.. any team having Afridi(richard) and nazir at its top order has to be great batting lineup !!! :wink:

humm… Indian batting and pathetic…

Dear if LAXMAN was a pakistani he would be the best batsman in your team ,where as poor guy is struggling to make it to first 11 of indian oneday team.

anyway coming back to topic…

Difference between pakistani bowling and Indian bowling is same as…
Difference between Indian batting and paksitani batting lineup…

So I will stick to same stuff which is
Indian bowling is pathetic for the same reason pakistani batting is pathetic. :wink:

Those of you who are wondering.

Here is the difference between Azhar Mahmood and Harbajhan Singh.

Mat Runs HS BatAv 100 50 W BB BowlAv 5w Ct St

Singh 27 388 66 12.93 0 2 114 8/84 28.61 8 7 0
Mahmood 21 900 136 30.00 3 1 39 4/50 35.94 0 14 0

As you can see Harbjhan Singh doesn't deserve to be called an allrounder, while his record in bowling is OK, his record in batting is more of a tail ender like.

Azhar Mahmood might not have an outstanding record like Razzaq or Kallis but compared to Turbunator, he is a true allrounder.

Harbajhan might be a little better bowler
than azhar but azhar is alot better batsman than Singh.

Overall Azhar is a better player for a winning team. :)

And your brilliant batting team is being opened by whome.
Sehwag is OK but Deep Dasgupta, SS Das, Wasim Jaffer, Sanjay Bagar.
How many records have they broken.

If Laxman was a Pakistani he would be still playing in the streets of Pakistan, not being able to pick in cricket academy.

When was the last time Indian bowlers destroyed the oppostion like Pakistani batting did to the Australians or the Lankans couple months back.

Indian batting would be nothing if they had Dravid and Tendulkur injured

Pakistani batting pathtic, an Indian dream :hehe:

Here is the differnce between Pakistan batting and Indian batting.

Pakistani Batsman

Saeed Anwar Avg= 45.52
Inzimam-ul-Haq Avg= 49.40
Yousuf Youhana Avg= 47.84
Shahid Afridi Avg= 32.50
Younis Khan Avg= 44.80
Total Avg= 44.01

Indian Batsman

Sachin Tendulkur Avg= 57.99
Rahul Dravid Avg= 52.76
VVX Laxman Avg= 41.21
Sauruv Ganguly Avg= 47.98
Virender Sehwag Avg= 48.54
Total Avg= 49.69

Marginal avg difference between Indian and Pakistani batsman = 5.68

Pakistani bowlers

Wasim Akram Bowling avg=23.62
Waqar Younis avg= 22.98
Shoaib Akhtar avg= 29.85
Saqlain Mushtaq avg= 28.52
Muhammad Sami avg= 29.23
total avg = 26.84 (lower avg=better)

Indian bowlers

Javagal Srinath avg= 30.46
Zaheer Khan avg= 39.48
Ashish Nehra avg= 39.12
Anil Kumble avg= 27.85
Harbajhan Singh avg= 28.61
total avg= 33.14

Marginal average difference between Pakistani and Indian bowlers = 6.3

I arrest my case! :)

kakay-Sawal..match hi dikhao pak - vs - aus ka :k:

Rab Rakha

DerVaisH

And thats why he was bowled by Mervyn Dillon half a dozen times.
If thats your defination of good batsman than goodluck! :hehe:

And it takes more than 17 years to win a series outside India with a batting lineup like this! :hehe:

Against an half stregth English attack, good luck!

that doesn’t prove anything about the bowlers.
Show me a match where your bowlers won your team a match like our batting has won our team the matches against Lankans in Sharjah or Australians in Australia.

And the bowling contibution was???

But it does mean scoring almost 300 runs against SL.
Scoring 250+ against Aus.

Here are some of the statistics of India chasing big scores.

batted 2nd 210 times
lost 99
won 111 times

wow that is an incredible record batting 2nd.

Cricinfo Statsguru

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Here is the differnce between Pakistan batting and Indian batting.

Pakistani Batsman

Saeed Anwar Avg= 45.52
Inzimam-ul-Haq Avg= 49.40
Yousuf Youhana Avg= 47.84
Shahid Afridi Avg= 32.50
Younis Khan Avg= 44.80
Total Avg= 44.01

Indian Batsman

Sachin Tendulkur Avg= 57.99
Rahul Dravid Avg= 52.76
VVX Laxman Avg= 41.21
Sauruv Ganguly Avg= 47.98
Virender Sehwag Avg= 48.54
Total Avg= 49.69

Marginal avg difference between Indian and Pakistani batsman = 5.68

Pakistani bowlers

Wasim Akram Bowling avg=23.62
Waqar Younis avg= 22.98
Shoaib Akhtar avg= 29.85
Saqlain Mushtaq avg= 28.52
Muhammad Sami avg= 29.23
total avg = 26.84 (lower avg=better)

Indian bowlers

Javagal Srinath avg= 30.46
Zaheer Khan avg= 39.48
Ashish Nehra avg= 39.12
Anil Kumble avg= 27.85
Harbajhan Singh avg= 28.61
total avg= 33.14

Marginal average difference between Pakistani and Indian bowlers = 6.3

I arrest my case! :)
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honey ,
Stats sometimes hide as much as the show.
here is same data for onedayers

saurav 43.13+Sachin 44.42+Dravid 38.14 +Sehwag 29.72 +kaif 45.20 =Avg 40.12

afridi 24.78 +youhanna 40.28 + inzi 39.42 + Yonis 30.79 + saeed 38.87 = Avg 34.93

Diff = 5.19

kumble 29.39 + harbhajan 27.11 +Zagheer 26.80 +Agrakar 28.43 +Srinath 28.78 = 28.12

Saqqi 21.37 +Shoib 20.03 +Wasim 23.62 + waqr 23.69 +Sami 33.71 = Avg 24.84

Diff = 3.28

Resting my case ;)

chal hawa aane de...

I thought test was the real test for the cricketer to show their performance, weren't you the same guy who said that one day is anybody's game but test matches shows your real stregth, why a sudden change ???

Its not about which team has better batsmans or which team has better bowler but its about how good Pakistan's batting is to the good batsmans compared to how good the Indian bowling is to good bowlers.