PAK.ORG ARE YOU READY TO HAVE YOUR 8$$ SUED?

WELL, YOU MAY WIN, BUT YOU HAVE TO BRING YOUR STINKY *$$ RIGHT HERE IN A FEDERAL COURT OF USA, AND WIN THE CASE, IF YOU CAN? YOU WANNA TRY, KEEP DELETING OUR POSTS ILLEGALY AND SUPRESS OUR RIGHTS AND VIOLATE FEDERAL STATUTE. IN CASE YOU THINK IT IS BS, GO AHEAD LET STUPID ROMAN JEEP DELETING MY POSTS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENED?IT IS A PROMISE, NOT A THREAT. SOME STUPID LIKE YOU ARE RIGHT NOW FACING ME IN FEDERAL COURT. I DON’T ASK FOR MERCY I DON’T GIVE NONE. THIS IS A WARNING SHOT.


Ghazi
Facts Are The Authority!

Roman, please do not delete this one. We are very scared. He may actually sue us.

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Azkar
But, did someone show him the aggrement he signed while registering his nick on this board?

Azkar,

What are you talking about deletion n all? This one I'm gonna print out, frame and put on my wall next to my computer.

Any comments if I should make photo copies and distribute among relatives and friends as well? Any suggestion will be welcomed.

Azkar:

It may be funny to you. I am not laughing. My posts have been repeatedly deleted for nothing. I am keeping a complete record/account of that. Your agreement means nothing once you get sued. You have to come down where I am in federal court, USA and tell the Judge and I am an *$$hole and win the case if you can. By that time you will learn the lesson of cost and effect and cause and effect. I am not sure how much experience you have about such things. I consider myself a veteran. If you can deliver the equal justice. I mean every bit of it. I don’t make hollow threats. You Roman stupid is doing suppressing my refutation against Islaam and letting Kuffar look good. You talk to your attorney. Because there is no law that prevents anyone suing anyone. You have to bring your fanny in court and try to win. Can your hefty budget of $ 6,000 to $ 10, 000 cover the cost of litigation? I don’t think so. Consider this post my letter of intent.


Ghazi
Facts Are The Authority!

1)BB: Do you reject that during the Prophet’s (pbuh) life time, the Quran was never compiled into one volume, instead the Koran was written down on paper, on skin, on the branches of palm trees, on thin stone, on shoulders and side bones of animals and, mostly retained in memories of Prophets close friends (Sahaba)?

** The revelation period is 23 years. Noble Quran was preserved in the lifetime of Prophet Muhammed(SAW) after revelation was complete. Preservation secured in multiple forms and manners including what you mentioned.**

Not only were the Koranic writings disorganized, but there were seven different versions of them. Prophet Muhammad said in the Hadith: The Koran has been revealed to be recited in seven different ways, so recite of it that which is easier for you (Sahih-al-Bukhari, Vol. 6, page 510).

** Noble Quran is devine, Ahadeeth are not divine. Keep this in mind.**

2)BB: Do you reject that the collection of the Koran into a single volume was something Prophet Muhammad did not do or authorize?

** There is evidence that it was done in the life time of Prophet Muhammed. There is no proof of what you are talking about?**

It was Caliph Omer who, after much discussion, persuaded Abu-Bakr to order the collection of the Koran. Hazrat Abu-Bakr ordered Zaid Ibn Sabit to do the job( reference:Al-Mush Al-Shareef, page 59,60).

** It does not prove anything. You are purposely mixing apples and oranges here.**

Zaid Ibn Sabit agreed to collect the various pieces of the Koran. However, when Islam became the religion of many countries, every country used the version of the Koran which was known among them: the Syrians read AbiKaab’s version, the people of Kofa read Abdallah Ibn Massoud’s version, others read Abu Moussa Alashaby’s version and so on.

** Again you are mixing apples and oranges and twisting facts to fit in your agenda.**

3)BB: Do you reject that when Caliph Usman took the caliphate, he was confronted by such confusion and sedition concerning the reading of the Koran in the different Islamic countries that he ordered it to be rewritten?

** Non-sense and it is not true account.**

Usman ordered Zaid Ibn Sabit and three other men form Quraysh, Abdullah Ibn Al-Zubeer,Saeed Ibn El-Uss, and Abdelrahman Ibn Al-Harith Ibn Hesham, to rewrite the Koran.

** You are very selective to poison the issue by using the word re-write. Before press was invented, everything was re-written over and over again. Depends on its demand.**

It was Caliph Usman’s order to the scribes: " If you disagree with Zaid Ibn Sabit in anything of the Koran,write it in the language of Quraysh, because the Koran was revealed in the language of Quraysh." They did. (Al-Mushaf Al-Shareef, Pages 66,70).

** Not true again same deceptive tactics are used by you.**

4)BB: Do you reject that after Caliph Usman completed 'his Koran' he forced all the Islamic countries to have one Koran - and banned all other codices?

** Damn lie and twisted account of events.**

He finished the matter by BURNING all other codices of the Koran. When Hazrat Usman banned whichever he banned from the Koran, and burned whichever he burned of it, he banned passages Allah has revealed and burned parts of the Koran which were given to the Muslims by the messenger of Allah.

** Again, you are using deception, lies and misrepresenting the facts.**

He appointed a small group of the Sahaba (close friends of Prophet) to rewrite the Koran and left out those who heard the prophet and memorized what he said. This is why Ibn Massoud was angry, because he was one of the best men who memorized the Koran. He said that he took from the mouth of the prophet seventy suras of the Koran while Zaid Ibn Sabit was yet a young lad.

{b] Already answered above. You Shia bastard is implying that Quran was changed. A lie.**

5)BB: Do you reject that when Ibn Massoud objected to the burning of the other codices of the Koran, Uthman took him out of the mosque with violence, and struck him to the ground, and broke one of his ribs? (REFERENCE: The Great Sedition, pages 160,161,181,182 written by Dr. Taha Hussein , a well known author, college professor, and minister of education in Egypt.

** Bullshit.**
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CONCLUSION: It is very clear that much of the original Koran was burned, while other parts were rewritten.

** SO WHY A REWRITTEN AND CHANGED QURAN ACCORDING TO YOUR LIOES AND DECEPTION IS A PERFECT BOOK? CARE TO EXPLAIN THAT?

How can we reconcile these historical facts with the following words of the Koran?

** WHAT WE CRAP IS ALL ABOUT? SINCE WHEN YOU ARE ONE OF US?**

Nay, this is a Glorious Koran [inscribed] in a Tablet preserved (Sarat Al-Buru 85:21,22).
That this is indeed a Koran most honorable in a book well guarded ( Sarat Al-Waqiah 56:77,78).
If the Koran was inscribed in “a tablet preserved,” and in “a book well-guarded,” why was it necessary for Caliph Usman to rewrite the Koran?

{b} Listen birbbrain, you all don’t like first three Caliphs, you have proved that again. So what you are telling us? What is your point?**

How could he burn the other codices? Why were there other codices in the first place?

** These are complexed and delicate issues. You brain is not equipped to handle them. Find some other hobby.**

These are very serious questions regarding a book said to be God’s word.

** Not to me and i.5 billion Muslims. Talk to CNN they might interview you.**

Again, Bubble kindly not waste time blaming all who question as anti-Islam or, quoting from texts which have no relevance to the subject matter.

** Let me tell you why? Because a Muslim know that you are lying and will never question like that. If you are Muslim tell me the forms of Kufr? WE have posted here.A Muslim does explore facts without compromising his/her IMAAN.**

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Oops!

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now i am really scared … Roman .. oo Roman … tayyaar ho ja beta … tum bhe kafir and main bhe kafir .. oo kafir .. why did you delete a muslaman’s posts? phaswa diya na?? aab kaya karian?? i think we should just pack and leave …

I have already made the reservation and have left a ta ta message on my boss' voicemail. I'm like totally gone.

Jokes aside,I think his posts should be left alone for people to see and make up their own mind on his hate compaign.

What is hillarious is that he wants to sue in USA Federal Court. Does he believe he will get justice from a kafir judge, in a kafir land. BeTa go and sue in some Saudi Arabia's religious court or our own Paki special army court. Or are you afraid of not getting justice there?

Very interesting.
An why your answers are starting to get shorter? Is your irrefutable religious knowledge getting any shake up yet or not?

Najoomi

I take my words back.... that was just a joke.

peace be on you brothers...

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My love to Ghazi, his relatives, his neighbors, and all others who he befriends. Ahmadis are Kafir, Roman is a moron, Azkar is a knucklehead.

I am in support of Ghazi until he is Shaheed.

My love to everyone, except the TOPP Admin group. .

My most honorable Friend Ghazi:
Aay Mard-e-Mujahid Jagg Zara, ab Waqat-e-shahadat hay aaya!

Brutus, you too????

Roman Yar,

Friendship aside, I will never let anyone make “Shahdara on my Dhoi”.

er.. something's not quite right!

How is it that Ghazi can edit r@@jdulara's posts? He's done it in this thread, and on a couple of other places as well. or is it r@@j's own work? :-{

TO ALL

1) I didn't edit anyone's posts. That sh*t is a true copy and paste work.

2) To that moron, who made commments about Saudi court or Pakistan court. I am a US Citizen. Most importantly Internet at large govern by US LAWS or US laws takes over the precedent. So I have home court advantage.

3) No my post are not getting any shorts. I was busy in Court for last couple of days.

4) What I can do or I can't no one has to believe me just give me a chance and see what is next. I don't need an attorney and bundle of dollar bills. I can put your *$$ on fire for $150.00 (this the filing fee in federal court) and let the chip fall where it may. I will let you think about cost and effect and cause and effect.

5) When I said my posts were subject of prejudice. Because I know more laws that all of you combined.

6) Let us say for the sake of argument I can't win. Still Azkar has to bring his fanny to federal court where I am. I can have this damn site shut down utill the out come of the court. There are laws for that.

7) So take your non-sense some where else. You Pakistani and Indians have one thing in your nature that you think mockery makes you look good. No it makes you looks like a jackass. I have seen people like you who lose everyday here. You all are hot air and no weight.

Ghazi
Facts Are The Authority!

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oh? so you wanna make it sound like Mr.America Vs Pakistan and India?

and what if Azkar Sa’ab sues you for a couple of millions for the revenue he lost while shutting this site down? and what if a few members sue for the mental anguish the shit you posted caused to the majority of the readers in here? What if NYA sues you for defamation and libel? (i still got a backup of the italian shit you shot at him).

chill out man, or get ready to go broke.

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Assalam-U-Aliakum:
(Irrelevent to what's being discussed in this post)
Brother Ghazi, can you please gimme your email address. Much appreciatd!

and this guy wanted to preach Islam .. tsk tsk …

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Azkar
ps: I am enjoying it… I cannot believe someone can be this naive … Lets see if he can spend $150 now.

oh yeah yeah .. i wana make Millions too ... I am broke by providing free services for these muft khoray Mullahs .. Let them pay now .. So, when are we getting sued??

Sister Ghazi, can I recommend some good lawyers. I know a few attorneys who represented David Duke of KKK in his defense. Since you and David share a lot of common interests, I think you should hire these guys.

You are my good friend and I send you my love and much respect. I will advise you to not mix Indian guys with the Pakis you are suing. These Indians arssoles are very clever and very sharp. They will eat you alive (only cows are forbidden, pigs are not!).

Good luck my friend.