World champions Australia, India and Pakistan will play a one-day tri-series in a European venue before next year’s ICC Champions Trophy in England, the Indian board said on Sunday. Possible choices include Scotland or the Netherlands.
Board of Control for Cricket in India president Jagmohan Dalmiya said the dates and venue would be announced later.
However, after the tournament, India would then play three one-dayers against hosts England before entering the 15-match Champions Trophy, to be held from September 10 to 25.
India have played Pakistan only in the World Cup in the last three years due to a government ban in 2000 on bilateral cricket owing to political tensions between the two countries.
The ban was lifted recently following a thaw in relations. The Indian team is scheduled to travel to Pakistan next March for its first full tour in 14 years.
The Champions Trophy will be contested by the 10 Test-playing nations plus Kenya and the winner of the ICC Six Nations Challenge in the United Arab Emirates next March when two of the six teams will be Scotland and the Netherlands.
Why in Scotland or Netherland, why not hold the series in Sharjah, Australia, India or Pakistan.
Another Nonsense tournament. The moment Govt lifts the Sanctions, Mr. Dalmiya is at it again. There is no point in arranging stupid ODI tournaments like this.
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Another Nonsense tournament. The moment Govt lifts the Sanctions, Mr. Dalmiya is at it again. There is no point in arranging stupid ODI tournaments like this.
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why is it "stupid"? the selection of venue might be improper but why the "tournament" is stupid?
Because India recently played a tri Series, will play another one in Feb with Aus & Zim, Have a Natwest Series against Eng in Aug, ICC trophy in Sep, Test & ODI series in Pakistan, Test Series in Australia, Test & ODI series in Bangladesh. All in next 8-9 months. That's not all - After the ICC trophy, Australia & SA both visiting India for a Test & ODI Series in Oct & Nov.
Isn't that enough that Dalmiya is planning on another ODI tournament of insignificance just to fill his coffers ?
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Another Nonsense tournament. The moment Govt lifts the Sanctions, Mr. Dalmiya is at it again. There is no point in arranging stupid ODI tournaments like this.
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Asif, i think this trination idea was iniitally propsed by ACB rather than Dalmiya as ACB wants to compensate for the revenue loss in last test series. Original venue was England, anyways lets see...
Well, in that case they should have organised the tri Series in Pakistan during the India-Pak series. No point in having an India-Pak-Aus Series at venues like Scotland, Holland or Toronto.
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Because India recently played a tri Series, will play another one in Feb with Aus & Zim, Have a Natwest Series against Eng in Aug, ICC trophy in Sep, Test & ODI series in Pakistan, Test Series in Australia, Test & ODI series in Bangladesh. All in next 8-9 months. That's not all - After the ICC trophy, Australia & SA both visiting India for a Test & ODI Series in Oct & Nov.
Isn't that enough that Dalmiya is planning on another ODI tournament of insignificance just to fill his coffers ?
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Sure this tourney puts extra pressure on the players but what about the rest? India's schedule looks hectic even without this tournament. How come you never complained about that?
Well, Except the Tri-Series in Australia & Natwest Series in England all other tours are Part of ICC's 10 year Plan and all the countries have agreed to it.
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Well, in that case they should have organised the tri Series in Pakistan during the India-Pak series. No point in having an India-Pak-Aus Series at venues like Scotland, Holland or Toronto.
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That's the best idea, but Aus might have refused to commit to coming to Pak.
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Well, Except the Tri-Series in Australia & Natwest Series in England all other tours are Part of ICC's 10 year Plan and all the countries have agreed to it.
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uh huh. And you didn't protest when those two tours were added to the plan? And how are those two tours significant and this proposed one insignficant?
CP - I am sure you have been following Cricket for a while now and know it very well that whenever a Team goes on a Test Tour to Australia they play a ODI tri-series as well and this has been going on forever and Aussie tours have always been planned like that. It's nothing new. This has basically replaced the ODI series between Aus & touring Countries.
Natwest Series - We are playing in england against England and not in TIMBUKTU.
It would be nice if the tournament is held off for another year. too much cricket going on these days, and plus Pakistan will already play India on numerous occaisions next year.
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CP - I am sure you have been following Cricket for a while now and know it very well that whenever a Team goes on a Test Tour to Australia they play a ODI tri-series as well and this has been going on forever and Aussie tours have always been planned like that. It's nothing new. This has basically replaced the ODI series between Aus & touring Countries.
Natwest Series - We are playing in england against England and not in TIMBUKTU.
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Well, what part of the bible says that India had to agree to the Tri series in Aus? If there was too much cricket, they could've simply refused. Forget that, I never saw you complain either..or any indian for that matter (on this board) Moreover, my point was not about the number of teams in a series. Not at all. cricket is cricket. An additional tour will put extra pressure on the players; two teams or three.
It would be great if you could tell us what defines timbuktu. Correct me if I am wrong but from what I infer, it appears that going by your definition of timbuktu, a few WC matches have already been played in timbuktu!!
CP - Timbuktu is Scotland, Netherlands, Toronto, Sharjah, Morocco, Singapore or any other place where masala cricket is organized. Who cares if there were some matches played in Timbuktu, Why should India go and play there in a masala series ?
As far as Cricket tour to Aus is concerned - We are playing Aussies in Australia and not in Timbuktu and it is a planned series, it's not too much cricket. So is England series. There is no reason to complain for pre planned series.
If Australia are interested in compensating Pakistan, then they should come to pakistan and play a tri series with India & Pakistan.
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CP - Timbuktu is Scotland, Netherlands, Toronto, Sharjah, Morocco, Singapore or any other place where masala cricket is organized. Who cares if there were some matches played in Timbuktu, Why should India go and play there in a masala series ?
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Now, how do you define a masala series? No matter what name you give to the place or the series, what matters at the end of the day is the teams that played not the places the game was played at. I fail to see how cricket played in these "masala series" is somehow inferior to the rest of the game. I am pretty sure if India plays Pakistan in a "masala series" in "timbuktu" land, it'll still generate a lot of interest and millions of people will watch the game regardless of the place and the series. So my opinion on the matter is that since the Indian team has been playing these "masala series" in timbuktu land for so long, stopping now without any reason doesn't make any sense. They especially can't hide behind the "hectic schedule" excuse because they've already agreed to play two series beside the 10 years schedule, and if that doesn't make it busy for them, whats a couple of more matches?
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As far as Cricket tour to Aus is concerned - We are playing Aussies in Australia and not in Timbuktu and it is a planned series, it's not too much cricket. So is England series. There is no reason to complain for pre planned series.
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This tour is pre-planned. You need more than one year of planning for a small series? Again, this tumbuktu theory is iffy.
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Now, how do you define a masala series? No matter what name you give to the place or the series, what matters at the end of the day is the teams that played not the places the game was played at. I fail to see how cricket played in these "masala series" is somehow inferior to the rest of the game. I am pretty sure if India plays Pakistan in a "masala series" in "timbuktu" land, it'll still generate a lot of interest and millions of people will watch the game regardless of the place and the series. So my opinion on the matter is that since the Indian team has been playing these "masala series" in timbuktu land for so long, stopping now without any reason doesn't make any sense. They especially can't hide behind the "hectic schedule" excuse because they've already agreed to play two series beside the 10 years schedule, and if that doesn't make it busy for them, whats a couple of more matches?
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CP - A masala series is basically nothing but to force your players to play in useless matches at TIMBUKTU to fill your coffers. May be your board is starved of money and your countrymen are starved for cricket, not us. As far as Couple of matches in a tri series is concerned, you really have no Idea, (for example in Australia if a team reaches finals and played all the games in the finals of the the VB series, they would end up with at least 9 games meaning at least 20 days more added to their already tight cricketing Calendar). In recent India-AUS-NZ tri-series it took almost a month to complete. You may call it only couple of more matches but the fact will remain that it will be another MONTH in the very busy & hectic schedule.
As far as India Playing at TIMBUKTU is concerned, we haven't played since 2001 and there is no reason we should start it again. The reason for that is ICC's 10 Year Schedule is much more structured now, We have an ICC tournament every two years (Knock out trophy & World Cup). We are playing TEST & ODI series with every country at a regular interval and that eliminates the need to play at useless venues like Scotland. Unless it is an ICC tournament, Why should India, Pakistan, Australia etc play cricket in Scotland ? it doesn't make any sense ?? If Australia is interested in compensating Pakistan, then should come and Play in Pakistan.
And an India-Pakistan series will generate interest if we play 365 days a year, does it mean we should play everyday ??
Now, how do you define a masala series? No matter what name you give to the place or the series, what matters at the end of the day is the teams that played not the places the game was played at. I fail to see how cricket played in these "masala series" is somehow inferior to the rest of the game. I am pretty sure if India plays Pakistan in a "masala series" in "timbuktu" land, it'll still generate a lot of interest and millions of people will watch the game regardless of the place and the series. So my opinion on the matter is that since the Indian team has been playing these "masala series" in timbuktu land for so long, stopping now without any reason doesn't make any sense. They especially can't hide behind the "hectic schedule" excuse because they've already agreed to play two series beside the 10 years schedule, and if that doesn't make it busy for them, whats a couple of more matches?
This tour is pre-planned. You need more than one year of planning for a small series? Again, this tumbuktu theory is iffy.
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Well definitly the so called Masala Series will always be inferior to the Indians as they have hard time winning them.