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Kisi na kisi tarah se to parliament mei thi hi kuch seats to thi akhir teen ya chaar dfa to parliament mein ayi haina ke nahi?
I think you have to google it . Right from ZAB to Bilawal all PPP leaders have talked about Kashmir issue very seriously. Musharraf ke parliament main sirf lotay the, PPP ka koi candidate nahin tha.
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I think you have to google it . Right from ZAB to Bilawal all PPP leaders have talked about Kashmir issue very seriously. Musharraf ke parliament main sirf lotay the, PPP ka koi candidate nahin tha.
Talking about Kashmir issue is not a big deal ..........First solve issues of Pakistan itself and then talka bout Kashmir
Ek to hamari awam bhut senti ho jati hai Kashmir ka sun kar
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AP uncle her jaga bilawal ko na gusaray kary na, plz post some relevant news
This is the most relevant post . Leader of the biggest party of Pakistan is talking about the topic .
Imran and Kartoon Kazab are only criticizing the PM but didn't speak against India themselves , PM has to follow some protocol and some policy over the issues . But why these Phatoos are silent
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Talking about Kashmir issue is not a big deal ..........First solve issues of Pakistan itself and then talka bout Kashmir Ek to hamari awam bhut senti ho jati hai Kashmir ka sun kar
Hamari awam to poondi kay liay bhi senti ho jati hay
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This is the most relevant post . Leader of the biggest party of Pakistan is talking about the topic . Imran and Kartoon Kazab are only criticizing the PM but didn't speak against India themselves , PM has to follow some protocol and some policy over the issues . But why these Phatoos are silent
i thought we are talking about national issue keeping it superior to party politics but you like to make each n every issue ppp, pti n pmln
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What is the view of your anchor about Kashmir? I have never seen in last 18 years talking about foreign policy particularly with India. He is silent for the last 18 years but you have to ridicule NS on this matter to shine the politics of phatphati eh!
n some ppl like politcilal point scoring on each n very thing, for god sake I already mentioned its not about ppp, pti, pmln its a national issue , Nawaz is the PM so he is questionable.
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Worst Firing across the LoC .
And our people on the both side of LoC are suffering .
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India threatening
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Advisor to PM Nawaz on national security had earlier said the Indian side is showing no cooperation.
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Isko apni aukaat yaad dilani paregi
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If India doesnt want UN monitors on its side, Pakistan should have them on its own side, so that we have a better sense of who shot first in the future. Dont know if that's possible, but a third party should be involved.
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looking at this dispassionately - BJP was also in power, and in lahore shaking nawaz pai's hands when the pakistani army orchestrated well-planned LoC violations into kargil.
pakistan has too many things going on all over, true. but it is also the perfect time to ignite mutiny in kashmir - people displeased with floods handling, eid, etc. india has the least to gain and most to lose from starting LoC problems at the moment.
I dont know if India has the least to gain. Aren't you people about to have some state elections? And doesn't jingoism play to the BJP crowd?
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This firing has to stop. The loss of civilian life is extremely unfortunate, and more lives will be lost, if no immediate steps are taken.
Shame on Pakistan's PM who couldn't show leadership, neither condemned the violence nor called for peace. Before his die hard fans get so upset and defensive, His Pathetic Highness could've saved himself from all this self induced criticism and another massive dip in popularity and credibility had he taken a proactive step and condemned the violence. This really isn't asking for much from His Highness who thinks it is his God given right to rule the country. If he wants to everyone to see him and respect him as a PM, how about he acts like one for once? Everyone in the country has taken notice of his cowardly silence - how many people will you blame and how many people will you shut up because you don't like your leader being put under a spotlight?
Imran should lead an dharna too Srinagar.
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ganja shareefs are silent on the issue, beghairat pm of pak
PM to pata naheen beghairat hay ya naheen , woh aik post par hay , naaray naheen mar sakta , magar jo do** Beghairat container par baithay PM par tanqeed kar rahay hain , woh khud kon condemn naheen kar rahay ,
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I dont know if India has the least to gain. Aren't you people about to have some state elections? And doesn't jingoism play to the BJP crowd?
Elections will be held in Jammu & Kashmir where BJP has no stakes because majority there are Muslims.
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Haryana elections are to be held on 15th October. Major parties in contention are the BJP, Congress and INLD among others.
Maharashtra elections are to be held on 15th October. BJP is also running a candidate there.
Jharkhand is having an election by the end of the year with BJP there as well…
Assembly (Vidhan Sabha) Elections in India 2014 - list of assembly constituencies and much more
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UN chief urges Pakistan, India to resolve border violence through talksBan Ki-moon expresses concern over recent escalation of violence, deploring the deaths and displacement of civilians.
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LoC violation: 31 border villages vacated after Indian firing
ISLAMABAD: Pakistani authorities have vacated almost 31 bordering towns after unprovoked Indian firing alongside Line of Control (LoC), ARY News reported.
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PPP seeks NA debate over LoC shelling
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PPP sought to discuss the urgent and serious matter of continuous breach of LoC and WB by the Indian security forces.
Cheques given to people injured in Indian shelling
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The Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif has distributed cheques for Rs75,000 each among 23 people.
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Exchange of gunfire resumes across Pakistan-India border - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
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Pakistan should make it clear to Modi that we will make you pay heavy price for any misadventure.
Modi’s bravado ups the ante in India-Pakistan fighting | Reuters
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However, military officers in both countries and officials in New Delhi say the violence that has killed nearly 20 civilians escalated because of a more assertive Indian posture under the new government of nationalist Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
“The message we have been given from the prime minister’s office is very clear and precise,” said a senior Indian Home Ministry official. “The prime minister’s office has instructed us to ensure that Pakistan suffers deep and heavy losses.”
In his first extensive comments on the violence, Modi told a political rally on Thursday - when 1,000 Indian mortars rained across into Pakistan - that “it is the enemy that is screaming”.
“The enemy has realized that times have changed and their old habits will not be tolerated,” he said.
The exchange of mortar and gunfire across a populated border area of Jammu, in the lowlands of Kashmir, has been India’s most serious brush with Pakistan in a decade.
Almost 20,000 Indian civilians have fled their homes to escape the fighting, taking refuge in schools and relief camps.
The guns fell quiet on Friday, hours before the Nobel committee named an Indian child rights crusader and Pakistan’s teenage education activist Malala Yousafzai as this year’s Peace Prize winners. But heavy firing resumed on Saturday And continued into the early hours of Sunday.
Modi’s robust approach towards Pakistan, supporters say, is aimed at emphasizing India’s superior strength and making Pakistan’s military think twice before firing across the border.
It is a strategy he also used to stand up to India’s larger neighbor, China, during a border standoff between several hundred Indian and Chinese troops on the Tibetan plateau that coincided with President Xi Jinping’s visit to New Delhi last month.
But the new stance risks more violence in the Himalayan region of Kashmir, already one of the world’s most volatile fault lines, and has eroded a border truce that has largely held between India and Pakistan since 2003.
The nuclear-armed rivals have fought two of their three wars since independence in 1947 over Kashmir, which is divided between them and claimed in full by both.
Since Modi’s election victory in May, military commanders have been encouraged to step up border patrols and retaliate with more force if they come under attack. New Delhi has insisted there can be no talks with Pakistan unless it ends shootings and pushing militants into the Indian side of Kashmir.
“This is what we feared would happen if Modi came to power,” said Ikram Sehgal, a former Pakistani military officer and chairman of one of the country’s largest security companies.
“This could easily escalate into something that won’t be good for Pakistan or India.”
RISKY GAMBLEIndia may be gambling that Pakistan can ill afford to inflame hostilities in Kashmir while its army is engaged in a full-blown offensive against jihadi militants close to Afghanistan.
But the stakes are also high for India.
An editorial in the Indian Express on Friday called for cooler heads, saying further escalation would damage India’s reputation as a responsible nation and attractive investment destination, and could rekindle a separatist insurgency on its side of Kashmir.Officials say India’s new policy is being orchestrated by Ajit Doval, the country’s national security adviser, a decorated former intelligence official renowned for his role in dangerous counter-insurgency missions. He has long advocated tough action against Pakistan-based militant groups.In conversations with Reuters as head of a right-wing think tank in New Delhi before he joined the new government, Doval said India must lay down core security policies, one of which was “zero tolerance” for acts of violence.
In August, after days of cross-border firing between India and Pakistan, Doval attended a meeting at the Home Ministry along with the head of the para-military Border Security Force (BSF) and a decision was taken to give a free hand to the ground commanders in Jammu, a top security official in the region told Reuters. Until then, the BSF, which guards the Jammu section of the border with Pakistan, had complained that instructions on how to respond to provocations were unclear.
“It is a very tough stand that our top bosses want us to take against Pakistan and the tone is very different from the previous government,” said the Home Ministry official.
“The previous government indulged in lip service. Publicly the former home and defense minister would showcase an assertive stand against Pakistan but actually neither BSF nor the army was given a free hand.”
A spokesman for India’s defense ministry did not respond to requests for comments.Pakistani military leaders say they have been taken aback by the level of aggression of Indian forces over the last week.
At a time when the Pakistan army is combating militants in the tribal areas in its northwest they do not want the distraction of battling India on its eastern flank, they said.“India is deliberately putting pressure on Pakistani security forces by opening this new front,” said a senior Pakistani military official posted on the border. "The message from India is clear: ‘We will teach you a lesson.’"Indians in the border areas of Kashmir, who have lived through decades of cross-border firing, said they themselves had noticed a change in tactics by the Indian forces. “Pakistan fires one, our boys fire six back,” said Atma Ram, 71, who was standing about 300 meters (yards) from the electrified fence that separates the two countries in the Suchetgarh area near Jammu. “They are giving a response we should have given before.”
