Re: Pak girls want music shops to close down
To quote Jinnah
We should have a State in which we could live and breathe as free men and which we could develop according to **our own lights and culture* and where principles of Islamic social justice could find free play*
and
You have to stand guard over the development and maintenance of **Islamic democracy,* Islamic social justice** and the equality of manhood in your own native soil. With faith, discipline and selfless devotion to duty, there is nothing worthwhile that you cannot achieve*
Yes, Jinnah did not want a theocracy, but Islamic states are not church/clerical run outfits as is the European (and so Jinnah's) understanding of the term.
Jinnah clearly had outlined a role of Islam in the state...albeit a vague and undefined one. The distinction between Muslim and Islam is a weak attempt at creating a secular Muslim identity...didn't exist at the time of Jinnah, and is only now being touted...and winning very little mindshare, I might add.
Perhaps, but I honestly think he intended for a state that would be inspired by by Islamic principles, but not a nation made solely for Islam... Much in the way that George Bush and probably many others among his party, would say that they are inspired by Christian values... Infact, I dont think there is any country in the world whose laws arent based atleast in principle on values originally espoused by relgion...
Jinnah's speeches point us in the direction of a secular Muslim country, it difficult to believe that he every wanted anything other then a Muslim majority country with secular values... If he didnt want a theocracym then whats left?
As for the role of Church and state as it applies in an Islamic country, I have yet to see any Islamic country where the role of relgion has had any beneficial role... The Islamic state may be different in kind, but same in quality to the church/clergy outfits of Europe.
So Jinnah may or may not have understood the complexity of the Islamic state in comparison to the European examples, but he was wise enough to realize that the nation run on religion is not one anyone should aspire for... History of such Islamic states speak for themselves...
And I dont think the concept of a seperate secular Muslim identity is such a new concept... Did the British not base their census of the Subcontinent on the followers of a particular relgion? The Muslim League wasnt really an Islamic party but a party comprised of people who simply followed Islam as their relgion (and many included Jinnah, who didnt follow it very closely)...