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Originally posted by ArjunMahavir:
** you must be Mush! you do exactly what I tell you to do all the time wailing like a banshee that you won't!
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And you must be the bael and I am playing the bheen... Bheen bajatay bajatay thak gyea.
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Originally posted by ArjunMahavir:
** just this once, I'll indulge and answer you. just this once. then shoo away.
I didn't accuse you of being a mullah. I recognized you as someone misguided by mullah rhetoric.
what's wrong with Pakistan trying to prove they can reach Israel? very simple: if Israel feels the slightest threat from Pakistan they'll simply bomb your facilities out of existence, like in iraq. so all this boasting about 1000's of kilometers is quite banal.
and finally, stop war mongering. why do you want to poison yet another generation of your own children and make another palestine their inheritance?
India and Pakistan need to stop the dangers of religious extremism at all costs.**
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Your knowledge is very weak and before you say something, think twice and see if your arguement could be supported or not.
Arjun, When Israel/India found out that Pak was about to tests its own series of Nuclear tests, both of em planned to bomb Pakistans nuclear facilities.
Israel/India were both planning to but Obviously Pak was aware of this so Pak itself said that if these attacks occur, our response will be very "massive".
Answer the following question. Give me a straight answer that fully makes sense, not some gibberish.
1)So tell me, why didn't Israel bomb our nuclear facilities?
2)Israel itself knows that our missiles can reach their territory, so why isn't Israel taking any action presently?
Arjun, we didnt make these weapons to bomb Israel, we made them to take out Calcutta, Delhi, Mumbai
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So watch out!
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You mean you want to extend Indian ocean all the way to Nepals border.
Ok, I just want some more answers here from guppies on the following question.
Do you trust USA with Pakistans N-weapons?
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ROFL …
Its our Wits that make us MEN … ‘Braveheart’
UK ......... I belive nuclear weapons is not something to be trusted with at all.
Its our Wits that make us MEN .... 'Braveheart'
Pakistan can trust nobody with its nuclear arsenal. Its like one of our most prized assets and is very well guarded...
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Originally posted by usman_khalil:
**Ok, I just want some more answers here from guppies on the following question.
Do you trust USA with Pakistans N-weapons?**
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no country trusts any country with something so important, everything is based on cold calculating decisions based on national interest.
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Originally posted by Spock:
Pakistan can trust **nobody with its nuclear arsenal. Its like one of our most prized assets and is very well guarded...**
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True, but since the N-test by Pak, USA is spying on Pak like hell to know where our nuclear arsenal is. Samething goes for India and Israel, how shameful they have come up with nothing yet.
Usman Khalil
usman_khalil dont woory allah will have mercy on 1/2 billion mulims living in indian sub-continent and mulims nations closer to it.
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Originally posted by usman_khalil:
** True, but since the N-test by Pak, USA is spying on Pak like hell to know where our nuclear arsenal is. Samething goes for India and Israel, how shameful they have come up with nothing yet.
Usman Khalil **
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Well, youre saying that 'Pak does not trust US with its N-weapons'... A few days back you were saying that Pakistan was going to hand over its nuclear weapons to the US, and there was a Government official that said Pakistan does not deserve to have nukes and these nukes should be handed over to the US.
They cannot take our nukes, just as they cannot take away the nukes from countries like the UK, France or China, even if they wanted to.
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Originally posted by rvikz:
**usman_khalil dont woory allah will have mercy on 1/2 billion mulims living in indian sub-continent and mulims nations closer to it.
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Israel doesnt care about Pakistans nukes... Israeal cares about the cash that flows from India to them when India begs them and purchases military equipment from them. Its India that really cares, and it should, for they now consider these nukes as a big blackmail that prevents them from attacking...
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Originally posted by Spock:
** Well, youre saying that 'Pak does not trust US with its N-weapons'... A few days back you were saying that Pakistan was going to hand over its nuclear weapons to the US, and there was a Government official that said Pakistan does not deserve to have nukes and these nukes should be handed over to the US.
They cannot take our nukes, just as they cannot take away the nukes from countries like the UK, France or China, even if they wanted to.**
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Spock, I read an article in Late May 2002 when Pak conducted a series of missile test of its own, they quoted an Pakistani official saying that Washington and its allies are trying to eliminate Pakistans nuclear facilities and they think a Islamic nation doesn't deserve to have such a power.
Whether you believe me or not, that depends on you. I have no reason to lie.
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Wonder if Pakistan could sell its nuclear technology or transfer it other muslim countries.
Do you think that would be a optimistic move or shooting ourselves in the foot, or would it help the muslim ummah in any way?
If Pakistan were to sign some kind of cooperation treaty with Syria regarding a nuclear program ... Israel would being selling India weapons like crazy ....
Do you think Bangladesh would be on our side if we went to war with India recently? If we were to make them nuclear allies what would they choose?
Its our Wits that make us MEN .... 'Braveheart'
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Originally posted by LooksCanKill:
**Wonder if Pakistan could sell its nuclear technology or transfer it other muslim countries.
Do you think that would be a optimistic move or shooting ourselves in the foot, or would it help the muslim ummah in any way?
If Pakistan were to sign some kind of cooperation treaty with Syria regarding a nuclear program ... Israel would being selling India weapons like crazy ....
Do you think Bangladesh would be on our side if we went to war with India recently? If we were to make them nuclear allies what would they choose?
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First of all, there is no way Pak would give anyone or tell anyone how to make an A-bomb. If Pak even wanted to, America wouldn't let Pak do that. He is gonna stick his nose in this business too.
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Originally posted by usman_khalil:
** First of all, there is no way Pak would give anyone or tell anyone how to make an A-bomb. If Pak even wanted to, America wouldn't let Pak do that. He is gonna stick his nose in this business too.**
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US didnt want Pak to go nuclear either but we did ... somethings can only be dictated by the country itself no matter how foreign interference there may be.
So what do you think ... is Pakistan up for the Muslim ummah or just itself? Would other muslim nations share a perspective or be into it for themselves as well?
Its our Wits that make us MEN .... 'Braveheart'
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Originally posted by LooksCanKill:
** US didnt want Pak to go nuclear either but we did ... somethings can only be dictated by the country itself no matter how foreign interference there may be.
So what do you think ... is Pakistan up for the Muslim ummah or just itself? Would other muslim nations share a perspective or be into it for themselves as well?
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We are not in a position to help other Muslim nations (some of which are already viewed as a threat by the rest of the countries) develop nukes. And quite frankly, we cannot afford to do that as our nuclear technology is providing a balance of terror between us and India, and we cannot risk it as we would immediately loose the Kashmir struggle if we do so. Besides, what have the other Islamic countries done for us that we bestow this huge favour upon them? Countries like Iran go and make anti-Pakistani statements, they do not deserve our gratitude.
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Originally posted by LooksCanKill:
** US didnt want Pak to go nuclear either but we did ... somethings can only be dictated by the country itself no matter how foreign interference there may be.
So what do you think ... is Pakistan up for the Muslim ummah or just itself? Would other muslim nations share a perspective or be into it for themselves as well?
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There is a difference between going to nuclear yourself and giving another nation nuclear technology.
Pak has the right to built N-weapons and it will constantly develop its nuclear technology in the future and there is nothing USA can do anything about it.
But if Pak shares his nuclear technology with another nation, it will drive USA mad.
Making an A-bomb yourself and sharing your nuclear technology are 2 things that differ dramatically.
No nation has ever shared its nuclear technology with any other nation so what makes you think Pak will and USA wont do anything about that?