Pak Army and US/NATO exchange fire (threads merged)

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’پاکستانی چوکی سےنیٹو ہیلی کاپٹر پر فائرنگ‘
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ہیلی کاپٹرز پاکستانی فضائی حدود میں داخل نہیں ہوئے:ایساف افغانستان میں تعینات کثیرالملکی امن فوج نے دعوٰی کیا ہے کہ پاکستان کے قبائلی علاقے شمالی وزیرستان میں پاکستانی سکیورٹی فورس کی چوکی سے ان کے ہیلی کاپٹروں پر فائرنگ کی گئی ہے۔
ایساف کی جانب سے کابل میں جاری کردہ بیان میں کہا گیا ہے کہ یہ واقعہ افغانستان کے صوبے خوست کے ضلع تنائی میں سرحد پر معمول کی پرواز کے دوران پیش آیا۔ یہ علاقے پاکستان کے شمالی وزیرستان سے ملتا ہے۔
بیان کے مطابق ’ایساف ہیلی کاپٹر پاکستانی فضائی حدود میں داخل نہیں ہوئے تھے اور ان پر چھوٹے ہتھیاروں سے فائرنگ کی گئی۔ تاہم اس واقعہ میں نہ تو ہیلی کاپٹر کو کوئی نقصان پہنچا اور نہ ہی کوئی فوجی زخمی ہوا‘۔
پاکستانی فوج کے ترجمان میجر مراد نے کسی ایسے واقعے کے بارے میں ابھی لاعلمی کا اظہار کیا ہے۔ ان کا کہنا ہے کہ معلومات ملنے پر وہ اس کی وضاحت کر پائیں گے۔
یاد رہے کہ گزشتہ روز ہی جنوبی وزیرستان میں انگور اڈہ کے علاقے میں بغیر پائلٹ کا ایک امریکی جاسوسی طیارہ گر کر تباہ ہوا ہے۔ پاکستانی فوجی حکام کے مطابق یہ طیارہ فنی خرابی کی وجہ سے گرا۔ تاہم دوسرے ذرائع اسے نشانہ بنائے جانے کی خبریں دے رہے تھے۔
اس سے قبل بائیس ستمبر کو پاکستان کے قبائلی علاقے شمالی وزیرستان میں افغان سرحد کے قریب پاکستانی سکیورٹی فورسز کی جانب سے سرحد کی خلاف ورزی پر دو امریکی ہیلی کاپٹروں پر فائرنگ کی اطلاعات سامنے آئی تھیں۔ تاہم پاکستانی فوج نے ایسے کسی واقعہ سے بھی لاعلمی کا اظہار کیا تھا۔

Re: Pak-Army fire on NATO choppers

Unsurprising. Due to the lack of clarity of the exact location of the Durand Line, Afghanistan claims parts of Pakistan that are as much as 1-2 miles wide. The NATO helicopters may have been told by their Afghans that they were in Afghanistan despite actually being in Pakistan.

This is like watching truck carrying flammable cargo slowly backup into a gas depot and people all over the place are clicking on their lighters. It's only a matter of time before the whole things goes up.

What do you think is going on? Any "master plan" out there? Do you think they "really" will get OBL/Taliban etc?

Re: Pak-Army fire on NATO choppers

pak army seriously needs such more events to improve its horrible credibility among people..they should advertise such things....one day army will have to throw away its pro american approach and image..the biggest barrier in solving fata problems..i hope they destroy any helicopter which enters our area..atleast their should be some sense of respect

U.S., Pakistan exchange shots at volatile border

Terrorists are trying to drag Pakistan into border conflict with American and NATO forces.

(U.S., Pakistan exchange shots at volatile border - CNN.com)

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) – U.S. and Pakistani troops exchanged fire Thursday along the Pakistani-Afghan border minutes after the Pakistani military fired shots at two American helicopters that were providing cover for the troops, a U.S. military spokesman said.
Pakistan says it shot at two U.S. OH-58D helicopters like this one pictured in a U.S. Army photo.

Pakistan says it shot at two U.S. OH-58D helicopters like this one pictured in a U.S. Army photo.

The U.S. Army OH-58D Kiowas, part of NATO’s International Security Assistance Force mission in Afghanistan, were patrolling the Pakistani-Afghan border when the Pakistani military fired on them, NATO and U.S. officials said.

The Pakistani military said the fire was warning shots, and President Asif Ali Zardari said it was flares. Both Zardari and the Pakistani military said the helicopters had crossed into Pakistani territory – a charge U.S. officials denied.

Rear Adm. Greg Smith of U.S. Central Command said the helicopters were providing cover for a small U.S. military unit accompanying an Afghan border police unit on a routine patrol.

After the shots were fired at the helicopters, Smith told CNN, the U.S. troops fired “suppressing rounds” into a nearby hill to get the Pakistanis to stop. That prompted the Pakistani troops to stop firing at the helicopters and fire instead in the direction of the troops, he said. The U.S. troops then returned fire, Smith said.

No injuries were reported in the five-minute incident.

Smith and other U.S. officials said the helicopter crews did not fire back.

But the Pakistanis disagreed, asserting in a written statement that the helicopters “returned fire” after the initial shots were fired.
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“The helicopters passed over our border post and were well within Pakistan territory” at the time that “security forces fired anticipatory warning shots,” the Pakistani statement said.

After the shots were fired, “the helicopters returned fire and flew back.”

The Pakistani statement did not mention exchanging fire with ground troops and did not identify the shots as flares, as Zardari did in New York in an appearance with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

“They are flares,” he said in response to a question asking why the Pakistani military was firing on NATO helicopters. “Just to make sure that they know they crossed the border line.”

Asked if such warnings will continue, he replied, “Sometimes the border is so mixed that they don’t realize that they crossed the border.”

Rice, off camera, agreed that “the border is very unclear” and “inhospitable.”

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman reiterated the United States’ stance that the two helicopters were over Afghan territory. “The Pakistanis need to provide the U.S. a reason to why this took place,” he said.

The ISAF issued a news release saying that “ISAF helicopters received small-arms fire from a Pakistan military checkpoint along the border near Tanai district, Khowst.”

“At no time did ISAF helicopters cross into Pakistani airspace.” The ISAF did not mention ground troops or say whether the helicopters returned fire.

Both the ISAF and Pakistani military said they are working to resolve the issue.

Last week, Zardari said Pakistan would not allow foreign nations to violate its sovereignty to pursue terrorists.

“We will not tolerate the violation of our sovereignty and territorial integrity by any power in the name of combating terrorism,” he said in his first speech to Parliament as president.

His remark followed a similar declaration from Pakistan’s military chief, Gen. Parvez Kayani, who said this month that Pakistan’s territorial integrity “will be defended at all cost, and no external force is allowed to conduct operations.”

A senior defense official in the Pentagon said the Pentagon is trying to determine the details of Thursday’s incident.

“What we don’t know if this was just a case of trigger-happy members of the Frontier Corps,” the official said, “or whether in fact the Pakistani military does have orders to fire on our helicopters.”

“We are confident our helicopters were on the Afghan side of the border, and we have no report they fired back,” the official added.

Top U.S. commanders will be talking to the Pakistani military about the incident to determine if there was a misunderstanding and to ensure it doesn’t happen again, a U.S. official familiar with details of the incident said.

The official said this is the first verified incident of U.S. troops being fired upon by Pakistani forces. There were at least two previous reports in recent days out of Pakistan about similar incidents, but the United States has said neither of those reports was true