Paid Time Off

Yesterday I read (i think on CNN) that last year, Americans forfeited some crazy amount… Something like** $50 billion** in paid time off benefits… :hayaa:

This got me wondering.

What are leave benefits like in different parts of the world? I’ve heard in parts of Europe, maternity leave is somewhere near 6 months?! That’s absolutely unheard of here in The States :hehe:
Women get 6 weeks of paid leave post delivery. And 8 weeks if they had a c-section/ complications.

But what about regular leave? Like (paid) vacation days? (Paid or unpaid) sick days?

Most importantly, how do your supervisors, managers, bosses, etc, treat you when you request time off? Does it vary how long before hand you request the time off?

How about some stories, please and thank you! :khumar:

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Ah. I found the article if anyone is interest.

Americans taking fewest vacation days in four decades

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I take each and everyone of my vacation days :snooty:

My company gives vacations days, 3 personal days (appointments, religious observances, etc.) and then sick days. For sick days, they don’t start counting until the 6th consecutive day off and will only have an issue is a person is seen to be abusing it.

While I might leave my personal days - I only use those I need and I’m very careful with my sick days -meaning I only stay home if I risk spreading germs at work or am just knackered - my vacation days are my earned entitlement and I use each of my 4 weeks. In fact, I hoard them for my travels and take a good 2 to 3 weeks off together. If I haven’t taken my full vacation entitlement, I’ll carry it over but I will not forego it!

As for the norms, in Canada women get 12 months for maternity leave (I think adoptive parents have a similar entitlement). I’m not fully versed on parental or paternal leave, but I think a couple can split the 12 months between them - meaning if the wife goes back at 9 months, the husband can take the remaining 3 months as parental leave. I know a lot of couples where because of the employer benefits, the couple split the parental leave in such a way, that between the two of them they maxed the paid leave. Funny story, my U.S. colleague took 3 months leave and he was mocked for taking parental leave, whereas his exact equal male colleagues in Toronto who’ve taken parental leave - it’s considered normal and no one bats an eye. I think that speaks to social norms of acceptability.

As for taking time off, I did 3 weeks early this year and my former manager had no issues (she used to take 3 weeks off herself) and when I scheduled time off for next year’s holidays with my new boss - he didn’t say anything either.

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We don’t have to get approval for time off. It is ur vacation. Use it as u see fit. Of course u inform the group admin when u r away. And ur colleagues with whom u work. And that out of office thingy.

Vacations r taken on time. And on schedule. I spend mine in the chat room sipping tea with Sentry.

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My boss forces everybody reporting to him and their direct reports to use all vacation days. He also uses all his vacations religiously.

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^ There needs to be separation of Church and Work.

Vacation days in US vary. The most I have had was about 6 weeks. 5 full weeks and 3-4 days of floating holidays. Not including 10-11 company holidays. I hardly ever took all my days and got paid out for what I did not take.

Technically I have unlimited vacation days now .. Really…Part of the package. Realistically if I tell the boss I am taking the next 6 months off, he would laugh.

The deal is that you have to hit your goals, client milestones, revenue, projects etc… So you have to be smart in figuring it out.

One colleague planned it for a couple of years and managed to do a 6 weeks vacation with his family ..all over the Mediterranean. That would be awesome.

In general US holiday and time off benefits pale compared to Eirope, and the attitudes from old school Ppl are not healthy, the scoff at time off. Face time being so ingrained in their head.

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I don’t think many people get that 6months maternity leave, well not in the UK anyway. I’m pretty sure the company I work for gives 6 weeks full pay. I think it’s 2-3 weeks full pay for paternity leave aswell.

I get 6 weeks paid vacation a year, and every year we work for the company they add a few more days onto that. Like people who’ve worked for 5yrs with this company have around 8 weeks vacation.

Sick pay is around 6 weeks fully paid, and another 6 weeks half pay after that (again it depends how long you’ve worked for them, I know people who can get 12 weeks full sick pay). After that it’s on their discretion if they wanna continue paying you otherwise you’ll have to get government sick pay. We’re only allowed 3 sick periods in 6 months, otherwise you’ll be called into a disciplinary.

I haven’t really had any issues when booking my holidays most the time, I just say I need to go somewhere for a wedding so I have to have it off, or it’s a religious thing.

When I phone in sick, they normally mess me about when I return though.

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Lol, I take all mine aswell and I try to take it all at once. This year I told them I need to go abroad to a temple for a religious thing and they believed me and gave me 5 straight vacation weeks off. My religion doesn’t even a temple lmao.

At my workplace you can take a week off self certified, after that you have to get a doctors note. I generally just take the week off and return on day 8 lol.

I try and take some sickness with my vacation. That’s the best way right? I’ve only used to 2 weeks so far, i’m waiting for the end of the year to use up my other 4 weeks sickness.

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I crack open a coke, tea is for lamers.

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Too much sugar in coke. Not good for you. They do serve water in the chat room.

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I’ll keep my coke, or give me a tab clear. Thanks.

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What is a tab clear?

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I haven’t had this in like 20yrs cause they stopped making them :frowning:

But I heard in the states they have tab cola, so if someone in the states wants to send me some, lemme know!


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Thanks for replying guys!! You all are very fortunate, Masha Allah!

I worked in retail sales as my first job :blush: Although I had very little vacation time, all employees were expected to “ask” for time off. Meaning, submitting a request and waiting for the approval/ denial from the manager/ available supervisor. If you were denied leave, it was due to “business needs”, aka “we haven’t met our numbers for the week/ month, and you need to stay to make it happen. We’ll talk about your vacation after.” Rinse and repeat.

Another paid benefit I once had to battle for… bereavement. Actually, I wouldn’t have cared if I had gotten paid for it or not, but I definitely wanted my records to show I was on bereavement leave and not sick/ unscheduled vacation time so I didn’t run the risk of being fired.
I was working for RBS when a very close relative passed away. My mother had to travel to Pakistan for the funeral/ care for her family while things were a mess, and there was no way she would be able to travel alone. The company allowed for 3 days bereavement leave (paid), +2 more days if travel is required, however it was at the manager’s discretion whether or not the extra two days would be paid for or not.
My manager first denied the bereavement leave. She said it wasn’t a close enough family member, which based on HR, they def were. Then she demanded I provide proof that I was traveling, and nothing less than boarding pass would go. But since we booked emergency tickets, we wouldn’t be getting our tickets/ boarding passes until we reached the airport/ gate. But I managed to get our travel agent to send the confirmation via fax, on their letter head. But this still wasn’t enough. She wanted a copy of the death certificate. She wanted to know for sure that I was going to attend a funeral/ care for family and not vacationing. At this point, I gave up. I told her I was leaving because I had a flight to catch, that I would come back with the death certificate if she really wanted it, and I also reminded her that I had already spoken to HR and they were aware I was leaving, so she couldn’t pretend I just vanished and was pulling some job abandonment stunt.

That was by far the worst I’ve seen. But it’s not surprising at all. A coworker working under the same manager was denied leave to attend a wedding in her family because she gave too short notice. 2 months is apparently short notice. The actual reason she was denied her request is because the manager had scheduled her vacation in the same time slot :hehe:

While working at MetLife, I had accumulated roughly 6 weeks of paid leave, about 2 carried over from the year before, and 4 for the new year. So in the new year, I scattered vacation time through out the year, and left some over, just in case. Again, had to submit for approval. My initial request was approved. Later, I got an email from one of the department supervisors explaining how some of the time I was requesting to use was carried over from the last year… But the company just passed a policy where you can only carry over x # of days into the next year. I dont remember the exact amount, but I do remember A LOT of unhappy team members :hehe:
I can laugh at it now, because I was young and stupid. I just nodded and agreed.

I have soooo many horror stories regarding time off from work and getting a gazillions reasons thrown at you as to why it’s not a great idea. Some personal, some that i’ve witnessed others going through.

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Oh Lawd! That post ended up being a wall of text. I’m sorry :frowning:

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Sending some your way. Stay off that sugar. More double rainbows to see for decades. More temples to visit.

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Climbing a wall of worry is what life’s all about

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I’ve never seen Tab Cola, but we do have Tab energy drinks made by the Coca-Cola company.
It’s a bright pink can marketed for women, but I’m sure guys have/ can drink them, too! :stuck_out_tongue:


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Wow. Read the “wall of text” Who made them managers?