Overseas Pakistani Syndrome

[Ghost14]

Re: Overseas Pakistani Syndrome

@diwana

Let me tackle your second para first:

The article seems one sided since it was focused on a specific group of people.

We do not know if he agrees with bad people in Pakistan just because he criticized few people outside Pakistan.

Simply speaking: the article is not meant to be all inclusive. he wanted to convey his message to only few people who have the audacity to criticize Pakistanis and Pakistan but don’t have any real contribution or intention to do help them…and simply ran away from the problems.

We should admit there ARE people like that.

(Separate discussion:Not to say the fake Pakistanis we see periodically on this forum who pretend to be well wishers of Pakistan or Pakistanis and use this mask to bash Pakistanis and Pakistan.)

Now for your first para:

He did try to be specific about those people who do not do good …WITHOUT separating those who have genuine intention but cannot do good.

I don’t think it is fair to criticize him for his lack of hair splitting argument or taking every minor aspect in to account.

When it’s an article declaring who should, or shouldn’t, be allowed to have an opinion on the country, I think acknowledging that people who don’t care also exist in Pakistan is a critical point. **Admitting it would render his whole article baseless: if Pakistanis also ignore the plight of the country then he has no right to call out expats who ignore it.
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Again, it’s easy to acknowledge people who want to do good but can’t. You just did, and it only takes one sentence. His article, because of its hyperbole, makes it seem as if there are people who care, and people who don’t, failing to mention people who can’t.

[Pryvate_Pigeon]

Re: Overseas Pakistani Syndrome

It’s funny because I know the author and because his f̶r̶i̶e̶n̶d̶s̶ classmates used to call him Hanuman

And for this 09 guy, let me tell you a story. After only a few months in Canada, a guy finds out through his cousin that his dad had passed away. Why his own family kept it from him and why he couldn’t go back to attend his funeral? I will leave it to your imagination.

[Shak]

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@Pryvate_Pigeon

It’s funny because I know the author and because his f̶r̶i̶e̶n̶d̶s̶ classmates used to call him Hanuman

And for this 09 guy, let me tell you a story. After only a few months in Canada, a guy finds out through his cousin that his dad had passed away. Why his own family kept it from him and why he couldn’t go back to attend his funeral? I will leave it to your imagination.

oh sh!t. This guy has nailed the thread. As for why, your mate in the article seems to think we don’t give a crap about family and prefer $$$. You’re showing the same level of IQ. Not surprising as picking on other peoples’ wives and one liners meri jaan are your only forte I am afraid. No offence ofcourse. <3

Show some class. Though I know it’s too much to ask. Other Mods may tolerate your crap but i find it as valuable as the dump in the trash.

Let me tell you a story. A guy went to Canada and was deported, now he’s back in Pakistan without telling his family why he came back. I will leave it to your imagination as to why.

I have no respect for people who insult other people’s mother and wives. Normally I ignore people like you but I made an exception. I’m sure you’ll show your class again to everyone, not that they need to see it.

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[pwner]

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@09

oh sh!t. This guy has nailed the thread. Picking on other peoples’ wives and one liners meri jaan are your only forte I am afraid. No offence ofcourse. <3

Issko bhi ban kar do.

[Shak]

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@pwner

Issko bhi ban kar do.

We should start a fund on GS with proceeds going towards charity, everytime you mention Mods we donate a dollar.

It’ll raise massive cash. Guarantee.

[pwner]

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@09

We should start a fund on GS with proceeds going towards charity, everytime you mention Mods we donate a dollar.

It’ll raise massive cash. Guarantee.

I didn’t mention mod…seeing things buddy?

[Shak]

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@pwner

I didn’t mention mod…seeing things buddy?

I forgot. Ordinary members carry out bans.

[Pryvate_Pigeon]

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@09

oh sh!t. This guy has nailed the thread. As for why, your mate in the article seems to think we don’t give a crap about family and prefer $$$. You’re showing the same level of IQ. Not surprising as picking on other peoples’ wives and one liners meri jaan are your only forte I am afraid. No offence ofcourse. <3

Show some class. Though I know it’s too much to ask. Other Mods may tolerate your crap but i find it as valuable as the dump in the trash.

Let me tell you a story. A guy went to Canada and was deported, now he’s back in Pakistan without telling his family why he came back. I will leave it to your imagination as to why.

Some will consider this low, since I am making up random trash like him, but I will openly say I have no respect for people who insult other people’s mother and wives. Normally I ignore people like you but I made an exception. I’m sure you’ll show your class again to everyone, not that they need to see it.

None taken.

As for the guy who lost his father and couldn’t afford to attend his dad’s funeral, it killed me watching him cry day in day out for a month. Something like that can make the worst of us lend a shoulder to cry on.

[Shak]

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@Pryvate_Pigeon

None taken.

As for the guy who lost his father and couldn’t afford to attend his dad’s funeral, it killed me watching him cry day in day out for a month. Something like that can make the worst of us lend a shoulder to cry on.

I know it was a stupid statement from my side. And I apologised for my comments in the thread and personally to Cough Cough as well. And I can’'t do more than that, this is for anyone else too who decides to do the same thing and reply to me . Straegly the author in the article seems to suggest something similarly stupid and noones really managed to notice that.

I do not know you personally nor pwner for that matter, hence I was mystified at the personal attack.

[diwana]

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@PyariCgudia

I used to agree with him, but after my recent trip to Pakistan, my viewpoints have changed.

Honest, smart, hard-working youth are just mentally dying and getting wasted there. Opportunities are scarce. Smart people even aren’t getting jobs. It’s all about who you know, and corruption is rampant.

Frankly, your allegiance with your country ends when you feel totally unsafe, and the country can’t protect you, and what’s worse, it doesn’t give a crap to protect you.

I had an episode or two in Pakistan recently which scared the crap out of me. It’s a different place now even Karachi is scary, and that too, in posh areas as well. People watch you. They watch your home, they know who is coming in and out of the homes, if there are visitors from abroad. I got off a rikshaw and he kept gazing at my grandmothers home. I asked him to turn around and we’re done with his services, and he stared right back at me with this look of “I know where you live now”.

Now who is gonna protect me and my family? We had a wedding in our home, and people watching probably saw there is a wedding in this home. We were scared daily that armed gunmen would come into the home and take our stuff and take our lives and our dignities.

Knowing there is no real police there. Knowing that you won’t get far if your family member gets kidnapped…

My cousins got lost and couldn’t find their way back home - another scare. Who do you call??? The police?

Some ways down the road a restaurant was blocked off with policemen. I would always point at that place, say, hey I wanna go here. What happened? The owner got a parchi. Parchi said “pay this much otherwise we kill you”. Owner took his son, fled country, kept the restaurant running, told the manager he is off for vacation, will be back.

Gunman showed up to the restaurant. Where is the money? What money? My money. I don’t know of your money? Gunshots fired - manager and 2 waiters dead. Restaurant shut down.

Another parchi “We mean business, so pay up”.

I mean if there is no law and order in the country and being successful means you get punished…then I don’t blame smart people for wanting to leave.

Your allegience ends when the allegience of that government to it’s citizens ends.

None of this is fault of every Pakistani and any average Pakistani.

Would you stop having allegiance to the country where you live now because someday you God forbid get in an accident by a drunk driver or someone mugged you (or any other bad act) when walking in a dark alley or a parking lot?

A simple yes or no would do first… followed by explanation.

[diwana]

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@Ghost14

When it’s an article declaring who should, or shouldn’t, be allowed to have an opinion on the country, I think acknowledging that people who don’t care also exist in Pakistan is a critical point. **Admitting it would render his whole article baseless: if Pakistanis also ignore the plight of the country then he has no right to call out expats who ignore it.
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Again, it’s easy to acknowledge people who want to do good but can’t. You just did, and it only takes one sentence. His article, because of its hyperbole, makes it seem as if there are people who care, and people who don’t, failing to mention people who can’t.

I still do not see why the fuss?

You made a valid point to support those who have genuine reason to not be able to travel abroad. Fine. But the writer is not talking anything about those people.
Like I said the article does not seem it was meant to include everyone with every scenario..just focused on hypocrites.

Again: The article is not targeting every NRP.

If anyone is not a hypocrite, then that person should not take any offense to the article.

P.S.

(Not directed to you Ghost)

I do not know the writer. Just going by this blog.. He did not actually suggest he supports hypocrites who live in Pakistan, Tax Evaders etc… so why even bring that argument??

Why be so defensive or making such a big deal to lose the actual message??