Overseas Pakistani Syndrome

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Overseas Pakistani Syndrome | Fahim’s Irrational Thoughts

If every Pakistani was given the chance to live in any country, Pakistan would most probably be an uninhibited desolate paradise. Most of us living in Pakistan would bail, given the chance. Let’s face it; we would give up our white collar jobs to jump into the “chalo chalo waliyat chalo band wagon”. We would live happily ever after, shelving products, mopping the floors and finally owning the crown jewel kebab shop that every Pakistani child dreams of since the day he can say the word “kebab”. There are some amongst us that are more fortunate than others, and we go for ‘alaa taleem’ which essentially still means “I ain’t coming back” given the slightest chance. We would prove ourselves to be the pinnacle of what academia has to offer; the summa cam lauds, nay the creme da la creme of graduates, with the finest of grades. the same us which had to go to the HOD’s office a couple of times to get the two marks so we could pass the course, it’s the same us. It’s just that was our parents money and this is well our hard earned cash from the part time job I got which would be beneath me if I was back home. We then graduate and find a job, we serve to the best of our abilities and more, something we’re incapable of doing back home because back there it’s our birthright to litter, to not pay taxes and to try our best to get away with as little work as possible. (And then whine about how the system is at fault)

US-PassportAs days turn to months and months to years, we settled down, get married (but only after we’ve broken up with my girlfriend in walayat and my fiancé’ back home whose nose I find faulty now) to that good looking woman who’d never marry me because, well, I was just a guy, now I’m a guy with a passport that’s not green. Before leaving you promise yourself that you’ll make all that cash and settle down back home with a comfortable life style you could never have if you worked here, but that never really happens. Time goes by, you stop converting everything into rupees and how much it would cost back home, whenever you go shopping. All the while your father’s hair turn white, his beard grows long, and his face gives in and shows the weakness that now consumes his body. Slow and shaky, he reluctantly gets used to carrying that big grocery bag home week after week. Whenever you ask your mother how her bad knee is now over skype she keeps repeating ‘khud hi theek ho jaye ga’ you tell her if you were there you’d drag her to the doctor to have it checked, but you’re not. You’re not a bad son, you always make it a point to show your parents their growing grandchildren, albeit on Skype at least every other week, you try, you really do, but things keep piling up. You have bills to pay and deadlines to meet. Then the inevitable happens you parent(s) ends up in a hospital bed. You want to go, more than anything, that’s the only thing you want to do, but then there is the school that doesn’t consider it an emergency and isn’t letting your kids go to another country without the shots, and the high paying job you just switched to have a different time off policy. You really want to go…. But you don’t.

Hey, I’m not judging you or anyone else, how could I judge anyone when, if given a chance like every other Patriot Pakistani, I would jump through hoops to get into the “Gora band wagon”. How can I or anyone else for that matter judge you, no one has the right to judge you, well not until they’ve walked two moons in your moccasins. But that wasn’t really my issue in the first place.

My issue begins when you sit in your leather recliner chair with the central heating/cooling on, in front of your burger baby kids who would have you committed to a psychiatric ward before they let you move them back to Pakistan. With your trophy wife, who would call the home office and have you jailed, before she agrees to live with your parents in this terror infested, corruption ridden uncivilized piece of land you grew up in. As you sit there, staring blankly into the idiot box watching the Pakistani news channel (or should I say entertainment central), commenting on every move Mr. Politician, whose name while living in Pakistani I don’t know, makes.

My issue is when every one of you folks lectures us on the intricacies of how the country is going to **** and no one is doing anything about it. What bothers me is how you have the audacity to lecture us from the comfort of your centrally cooled/heated drawing room. Yea sure, each and every Pakistan also discusses the same from the comfort of their drawing room, but hey! We do it without central heating/cooling! My issue with you is not the life choices you’ve made nor what your intentions were/are; my issue is every Pakistani not in Pakistan complaining about Pakistan all the frigging time. (I will concede that we do provide a tempting target given our politicians, society, mullas healthcare, education, infrastructure, security, law and justice …).

What is required is you move on, accept the fact that you will never be as Pakistani as the guy who lives here, goes through the power outages every half hour, sees the poor on the street but cannot do anything about it. For God’s sake stop confusing our weakness for indifference, we may not have been able to help the poor on the street but we do empathize with him. We may not have been able to change the system but we sure the hell are determined to try. We may not have been able to bring a sweeping revolution but we are willing to stand under the blazing sun for hours on end to vote. It’s about time you accept the fact that you gave up your right on criticizing this country when you didn’t come down here to vote.

And to all of you living in self-imposed exile let’s ask ourselves what have we done for our Country, how much tax have we paid in the last X number of years, how many schools and colleges did we open? How many people did we provide jobs? How many households did we support from the money that we earned from foreign countries? No one asks these questions, no one really cares. All that seems to matter is what the TV show guy is saying on Geo in the comfort of your modern homes. Yes there are problems with our system, yes there is corruption, yes everything might be falling to pieces, but it’s our problems. It’s the Problems of the people who live and breathe the air here, who go, day in and day out, surviving this urban circus.

You gave up your right to complain when you gave up your green passport. Not your right to life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness but a far more fundamental one, the right to criticize your Country and it’s time to accept it. You gave up your right when you realized that the day your kids are old enough to know that they can say no to visiting that stinky smelly country and stopped coming. You gave up your right to comment on every single speech the politician with opposing views makes when you paid that mortgage on the second home. You gave up your right when you couldn’t make it to your dad’s funeral because they would kick you out of the 6 digit paying job that you just joined. You’ve gave it up a very long time ago and it’s about time you accept it.

Come visit us meet us after a couple of years or whenever you want, we will welcome you, love you and respect you, like you deserve. We will open our homes and hearts for you. Just be courteous enough not to be involved in the matters of our home. This is our land, this is where we live every day and this is what we will fix. Everyone has a choice, you made yours, let’s accept that and move on. Let’s tune into the news and talk shows that affect our daily lives and the lives of our children, let’s talk about things that we deal with on a daily basis; because if words were food, nobody would be going hungry in Pakistan.

Disclaimer: I think it is my weakness of writing that I couldn’t convey my point properly. I am not criticizing anyone for moving out for one secondly I have no right to ask how you spend your money and how you live. Nor are all overseas Pakistani’s like that. Heck our company is funded by a man who built his fortune in the states lives in the states and has 500+ people employed in Pakistan and to top that off is funding start ups in Pakistan. There are those people and they are great they are the essence and the building blocks of our society and they are our only connection with the western world, they represent us and they do a great job at it. This article has got to do absolutely nothing with them, this has to do with the rest of us. The rest of us who would run away not because we need to because we want to, it’s for us the one’s who would not invest a single rupee in the state (whether charity or otherwise) yet would spend their lives criticizing the country. It’s for us who would never be ease at being where they are and would never have the kahunas to actually move back. Accepting is the first step my friend.

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if pakistan is empty(khuda na khasta) I would go live there happily.

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@monk may be it needs you atm as well.

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In your case I can understand that. Being a monk I’m sure you want to live in solitude.

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Wow is all I can say .. pointless frustration of a man who probably didnt get a chance to get on the NRP bandwagon :disgust:

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I would love to move back to Pakistan and work to resolve some issues there. I would hate to move there just so that I could live like other rich people do - loot loot loot.

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Thats the point the guy is trying to make ..

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Yeah, but I don’t consider myself Pakistani. That’s the difference. I would move to any third world country if I could make a difference there. Maybe I will once I am able to. Khud ke paas khane ko kuch na ho aur doosron ki madad kerne chalo to khud ko kaun khilayega?

I have always believed in doing good for the sake of doing good and nothing else. Race, culture, nationality, and religion do not give me a sense of belonging to a certain place.

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^ True. Pehle apni madad phir dosron kee sochain gain. Abhi to apne lale parey hain.

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Thats great. You don’t have the ‘C’ in ABCD… The people being talked about in the article are those with a bigass ‘C’… Sometimes Pakistani, Sometimes Not Pakistani…

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Twist: I was born and raised in Pakistan.

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I said you didn’t have the ‘C’. I didn’t say you were AB :smiley:

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Excellent article. This is everyone’s favourite pastime: sit on a cushion and discuss in detail how to make Pakistan better - until the chai is finished and it’s time to go home. If you don’t vote, don’t say a word, same goes for every place really, don’t talk crap about Rob Ford if you didn’t vote during the elections.

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Idiotic article.

He make the assumption that everyone with a job, with commitments, with a life they were most likely forced to pursue in another country, holds Pakistan in disdain. The fact is that the vast majority of people have little to contribute towards shaping the national discourse, besides nonsensical opinions, and the same majority do not participate in such endeavors in their adopted countries either. The man he mentions, the one who built his fortune abroad and then gives back to Pakistan, is an exception.

Most people are just trying to get by, be it in Pakistan or abroad. The only difference between most Pakistanis and expats, is that the Pakistanis may actually get out to vote once in a while. The rest of the time, everyone is playing armchair quarterback so the colour of your passport means little. “Oh but I deal with the heat everyday”. I feel for you, but are you an electrical engineer? A PhD in Economics? An expert in public policy? Then stfu and listen to the guy who is, who may or may not be from abroad. People in Pakistan are also busy dealing with their day to day lives. They worry about their bills. They worry about their kids. They worry about where the food is going to come from. Just like people abroad. Please don’t insinuate that they are engaged in academic discourse about fixing the country. Most don’t have the means, or the education, to do so. And that’s not their fault, but geographical proximity does not make someone’s opinions any more valid.

Lastly, many expats do send a great deal of money to Pakistan. You’d be surprised at how much. But forget money, why would anyone want to discourage thought? What do most expats have that a great deal of Pakistanis don’t? Education. This jackass wants to have people who are educated, who have seen the world, who live in countries that are relatively more advanced in terms of human rights and social and civic institutions, even if their foreign policies are draconian, be discouraged from offering insights? Right, sign him up for a political career in Pakistan. He’ll go far.

If he made a distinction about *what *people criticize, I’d say he has a point. If he applied his criticism to people who live in Pakistan, I’d say he has a point. But he doesn’t. It’s okay to sit back and spew noise if you’re in Islamabad, but God forbid you do so from New York, or London.

He has apparently never heard of constructive criticism. What a clown.

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i can empathize with the author. being an armchair critic is the easiest of the things. you have to live it to feel it, react to it, survive it, and form an informed opinion about it.

those of us living in pakistan bear the brunt of the halaat, and still try to do our best most of the times. people abroad need to realize that at the end of the day, we are the same as them, having the same dreams and wishes … but with the issues we face everyday, life becomes a battle for survival

if we rid the country of the common pakistani and brought in the overseas pakistanis as replacement citizens, things would just be the same as they are now.

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Oh but don’t you know ABCD’s only do that for their families and not country? :chai:

Rubbish article. Har doosray maheenay koi bakwaas from people we know about how someone’s phupha or behn or bhai got robbed, got beaten up, got attacked via gunpoint. How some of us here on GS have lost people from families and friends due to filth creating havoc in Pakistan, doesn’t he realise how because of that some of us hate the fact we can’t go to Pakistan? How we would rather live in our country but we left rather than end up with a bullet in our head? My family and a couple of others moved back to Pakistan not long ago and my parents decided they would go poor and hungry in another country but would not risk their and their children’s safety. This clown thinks that’s an easy thing to do? And despite that we try our best to help the poor and help anyone in any way shape or form. And this idiot is telling us we can’t have an opinion on Pakistan? Or empathise with people in Pakistan? And then this moron goes on to say how he would go out too if he had the choice. :rolleyes: Some of us abroad have done more for our country than some in Pakistan ever have. And some of us have lost more than some in Pakistan will ever do.

I despise people here abroad who make fun of ‘Fobs’ and I despise people in Pakistan who do the same to ‘ABCDs’. Both are pathetic and as bad as each other.

People like him can take their opinion and frankly take it where the sun don’t shine. Rant over.

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^ Which is my point. The people are the people, regardless of the country. People play the armchair critic, both domestically and abroad but apparently it’s okay to do that if you have a Pakistani passport.

He should be talking about the subject of criticism and the merit of ideas, not who should be allowed to offer them.

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dont agree with everything he said. But recall writing something like this somewhere. So does that turn us into equal level frustraded gits. His frustration to a certain extent is understandable. I pray he never visits this forums specially few threads and specialy nowadays. If he sees sum of the current life1 threads, well perhaps he could mad bang his head on the screen or start chewing on his smartphone

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Nope, he isn’t saying you can talk all the crap you want because you’re in Islamabad, etc. He isn’t even criticizing expats that are involved in some way or another - whether financially or politically. He’s just talking about those who do nothing except yap away. Makes perfect sense, if you’re going to be a hypocrite, let’s call you out on that at least, fair game.

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^ He’s yapping away himself a lot.

I get your point but his drivel about people missing parents’ funerals because they preferred $$$ abroad instead? I want to know what he’s been smoking.