Our History?

[the_kaur]

Re: Our History?

@khoji

We are quick to ridicule our people and Bharatis wholeheartedly jump on the band wagon with a ‘khush-amdeed’. They must feel quite self-righteous when they see Pakistanis saying all that.

But we Pakistanis also need to mention how twisted Bharati views are about those rulers only because they were Muslims. For example:
Indian History - Muslim Period in India

**Policy of Muslim rulers in India - **The general policy of most of the rulers during the 700 years of Muslim occupation of India was to systematically replace the fabric of Hindu society and culture with a Muslim culture. They tried to destroy Indian religions language, places of knowledge (universities e.g Nalanda were totally destroyed by Muslims). They destroyed and desecrated places of thousands of temples including Somnath, Mathura, Benaras, Ayodhaya, Kannauj, Thaneswar and in other places. There was wholesale slaughter of the monks and priests and innocent Hindus with the aim to wipe out the intellectual bedrock of the people they overran.

The Muslims could not subjugate India with ease and were never able to rule it entirely. There was a valiant and ceaseless struggle for independence by Hindus to deliver India from Muslim tyranny. The Rajputs, Jats, Marathas and Sikhs led this struggle in North India. In the South this struggle was embodied in the Vijayanagar Empire. This struggle culminated when the Marathas ended the Muslim domination of India.

They won’t tell that the policy of most Muslim rulers was actually much better towards local Hindus. This is why Hindu-Muslim problem did not exist as such. There was no forceful conversion, which is why majority of Bharati population is still Hindu or Sikh.
Throughout that time, the armies of Muslim rulers mostly comprised of local population of Hindus. And it was precisely for this reason that when Hindustanis rose up against the British in 1857 then their aim was to re-establish Mughal Empire with Bahadur Shah Zafar as the emperor.

I like such readings because these text try to portray rulers in modern lines, Auragzeb or for that matter Shivaji weren’t secular, they never meant to be secular nor did they know meaning of secularism, all this secular talk came only after American declaration of independence and French revolution. History should be studied in context and then should be left to era to which it belongs.

And if you think there weren’t any forceful conversion then read about Tipu Sultan’s policy in Kerala but he was portrayed as hero in National drama in India. Annihilation of Mughal army in Assam, struggle of Maratha.

I personally believe there was no need of muslim law in Hindu India, According to Al-Biruni, Hindus calculated that earth in elliptical in shape, there must be some continent at South Pole and explanation of day and night is possible through Heliocentric model etc. Common hindu mistrusted every foreigner because muslims were vandalizing temples and educational system due to which curious and educated muslim like him had to face so much of trouble to get into literary circle of that era. Looks like Hindus and Muslims would have learnt more through interaction than imposition of muslim rule

@khoji

I am not here to convince YOU. My purpose was to show some of my country-men the bias that you Bharatis have towards Pakistan in particular and Muslims in general.

My above posts serve that purpose. By showing the bias and hatred evident from your above post and previous posts, I think I showed Pakistanis that they need to ponder before joining Bharatis in unjustly ridiculing and abusing their own people in history.

I don’t expect any Bharati to be convinced by the above posts. And if some people from my target audience are also not convinced … then so be it. I can’t argue paragraph-by-paragraph, post-by-post, line-by-line; just like that kaur can.

So happy hating.

I am not here to get convinced either. I am here to learn something new. We may have hatred towards Pakistan but we don’t have hatred towards muslims. Iran is muslim country with which we have better relation than Pakistan. We have good relation with Israel as well. We are the only nation where Taziya procession is not threatened by bomb. Dawoodi Bohra, Parsis and Quadianis are living like ordinary citizen with full rights and their personal law boards.

We are judging ourselves by number of people we are pulling out of poverty and advancement in technology like recently launched GPS system Navic, honestly I don’t care how Pakistan or Uncle Sam judge us.

@muqawwee123

How come presenting people based on the fact (without bathing them with some holy light) is abusing them? As far as others doing it, it does not make an automatic permission for us to do the same.

I think history syllabus should be reduced a bit more, we are talking about interstellar travel, Mr Nolan in his movie depicted an Indian Air Force drone programmed in Sanskrit language. That should be the vision.

We should be busy living in technology rather than finding reasons to kill each other in history.

Frankly I can trade ten medival emperors be it Aurangzeb or Ranjit singh for one Mustafa Kemal Ataturk or Pandit Nehru