The thought was triggered by a tv show on HBO - Same Sex America.
Topic was legalized same sex marriages; some of the couples portrayed had adopted children - these kids ranged from infant to teenager and seemed pretty ‘normal’ from whatever little I saw about them.
Personally, I thought it was great that they adopted- but the company I was watching the show with disagreed. It got me thinking – what is the average stance on that? What do you guys think and why?
No need to turn this into a nasty thread or make it personal, I just wanna get a feel of what our generation thinks on the subject.
Muniya, many people who have opinions have never stepped into an orphanage, let alone talked to any orphans or seen how they live, and what opportunities they have for future.
You have, I have...same place, which btw is a very good place compared to others around.
Seeing how the kids live, and finding out what happens to those with worse luck who wind u in the streets, get picked up by human traffickers etc. I think anyone who can provide them a better life should be able to adopt.
As far as opinions on this site, or community in general, the will vary a lot. Many people are against non muslims adopting a child from a muslim country, let alone a gay person.
My best friend adopted 3 siblings from an eastern european country. They were in a poor orphanage, neglected beyond beleif, fought for their food and have troubles to this day because of it but getting better and better. If they had remained in the orphanage, they'd have been released on their 16th birthday, sent out into the world to fend for themselves. If my friend did not find them, would they be better off with an adoptive gay couple? Or a single parent? OR an older couple? ABsolutely!! Not the best choice but surely better than orphanage.
^ ok whoa.. I just read that other thread on this topic. I'm not sure how I feel altogether about this to be honest. I disagree with homosexuality completely, and do not support/encourage it in any way.. but then I feel equally strongly about orphans and adoption aswell and it breaks my heart to think about kids who suffer throughout their childhood simply because there aren't enough people out there who are willing to take these kids in and give them the shelter/education/care that they SHOULD (and absolutely have the right to) be given. Considering that, I dunno.. I wouldn't object to a gay couple wanting to adopt a kid because who knows? They may just be able to provide the kid/s with the education/attention/care that they need. No one should be able to say they will make bad parents simply because they're gay.. because if that was the case, then heterosexual parents would all be brilliant wouldn't they? I don't think its my place to object at all.. the only thing I can do is intend to adopt a kid in the future myself (Inshallah).
Sorry Shak I didnt realize there was a previous thread on it.
I'm gonna play devil's advaocate here - lets talk from a religious POV; isnt homosexuality completely condemned?
It is indeed and like I said before, I don't enourage/support it in any way.. but I was focusing on the "adoption" part of the question more. I mean, its not like the only option left out there for orphans is to be adopted by gay couples in reality.. but IF a gay couple were able to provide a child with a home, education, care etc and the only other option was an orphanage.. then I wouldn't object to it. Its quite simple: orphans out there need a home and if someone else can provide them with that, why should I object UNLESS I'm willing to step up and adopt those kids myself?
Whatever my feelings about homosexuality, the few homosexual couples I know are in stable homes. They are good people who are loving and thoughtful. I feel it is wrong to deprive them of the right to be parents, just as it is wrong to force a child to stay in an orphanage when warm and safe homes are available.
I know it's a complex issue. But that's what I feel, from my gut.
Im against homosexuality, but pro-adoption. A child deserves a safe and warm home, and whether that's with a gay family or a non-Msulim they should have one.
Sorry Shak I didnt realize there was a previous thread on it.
I'm gonna play devil's advaocate here - lets talk from a religious POV; isnt homosexuality completely condemned?
The thing is that gay parents when adopt a boy are not going to sexually assault him in any way .. right? On the flip side, homosexuality is amazingly common in orphanage so if you really want to save a kid from becoming a victim of homosexual assaults, home of gay parents might be a better place for him
Im against homosexuality, but pro-adoption. A child deserves a safe and warm home, and whether that's with a gay family or a non-Msulim they should have one.
Ones sexual orientation has nothing to do with adoption. However deviant social behaviour is a completely different issue. Specifically issues that are on the fringe of sexual preference, stuff that can lead to abuse.
I'll say what I said in the other thread, to sum it up:
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''A person with half a brain would realize after reading over 150 replies that its been established that homosexuals are unnatural. They can do whatever they like privately but giving them children would seriously undermine the whole family concept. No matter what anyone says a child growing with two daddies or two mummieswill not have the same mentality from a child who grows in a traditional family. Who will the child (in a homosexual home) call mother or father? To deny that sacred right to a child would be extremely harsh.
Obvious really, just need some common sense.
As someone pointed out there are plenty of childless couples before we turn to homosexuals.
The way gays (gay men and gay women respectively) precieve relationships is completely different. For instance as a guy I cannot relate myself with a gay guy, how do you think that would affect a young boy growing with gay men e.g.? How on earth is he supposed to relate to people who go against the very natural human behaviour? How would this affect his growing up?
If it was natural gays would have had the ability to produce children, they don't. Says a lot.''
The Moderator closed that the thread because it dragged on and on and on. This one will too.
I'll say what I said in the other thread, to sum it up:
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''A person with half a brain would realize after reading over 150 replies that its been established that homosexuals are unnatural. They can do whatever they like privately but giving them children would seriously undermine the whole family concept. No matter what anyone says a child growing with two daddies or two mummieswill not have the same mentality from a child who grows in a traditional family. Who will the child (in a homosexual home) call mother or father? *To deny that sacred right to a child would be extremely harsh. *
Obvious really, just need some common sense.
A person with a whole brain will realize that its been established that being an orphan is unnatural. No matter what anyone says, a child growing up in an orphanage will not have the same security and happiness as a child who grows up with parents.
To deny the sacred right of a home to a child is extremely harsh.