Being an orphan isnt unnatural in the sense that the orphan is an orphan due to death of his parents and dying is natural. And even if I am wrong and being an orphan is unnatrual then how is clumping two unnatural things (gay adoption the other) helping?
For God sake read the other thread before mouthing off or atleast read my full post!
Me: The way gays (gay men and gay women respectively) precieve relationships is completely different. For instance as a guy I cannot relate myself with a gay guy, how do you think that would affect a young boy growing with gay men e.g.? How on earth is he supposed to relate to people who go against the very natural human behaviour? How would this affect his growing up?
Very sensitive subject, but before anyone gets on their high horse, i have to admit i have gay friends and they are of no harm, if anything very sensitive and caring.
however the question of adoption, i disagree totally. as muslims our understanding of homosexuality is that it is totally forbidden and condemned. the Prophet (PBUH) stated that their was a place on earth that you should not stop over at, and whilst passing through recite Astagfarulla at all times, the place.......Dead Sea....the same place Phophet Luts people perished. (people were homosexuals)
Gays are not bad people however what they do is not natural, how can it then be natural to be brought up in this "family" enviroment.
Yes i agree, the orphanages are not the place for kids, however handing them over to homosexuals to bring up is not the only answer.
if i was to die, i would not want any child of mine to be adopted by gays.
My gut instinct would be to say anything is better than an orphanage, but we should really be fighting for better standards of care in orphanages not just saying oh let homosexuals adopt.
The only way to answer this topic in my opinion is, if i die, are my kids better off in an orphanage or being raised by gays.
I would choose orphanage, rather than gays.
They would learn about life through harsh realities than be raised by gays with gay values in a comfortable environment.
Allahs' wrath is upon gays, and i wouldnt want them being raised by cursed people.
Gays are nice people, but i wouldnt want my children to adopt their ways.
Everyone fears their sons and daughters turning into one, so instead of talking about other children, think of it as your own when answering such topics.
The only way to answer this topic in my opinion is, if i die, are my kids better off in an orphanage or being raised by gays.
I would choose orphanage, rather than gays.
They would learn about life through harsh realities than be raised by gays with gay values in a comfortable environment.
Allahs' wrath is upon gays, and i wouldnt want them being raised by cursed people.
Gays are nice people, but i wouldnt want my children to adopt their ways.
Everyone fears their sons and daughters turning into one, so instead of talking about other children, think of it as your own when answering such topics.
Are you serious? I'm amazed at how naive people are... you think orphanages are havens for children? Like X2 said.... things like rape, child molestation, sex trade, etc. are all harsh realities that the kids face. I would rather have 'cursed' people (aka gays) keep my child and raise him/her, with love & affection rather than them ending up being out on the streets selling sex.
X2 and MiainVA, which country are these orphanages located(ones which you have visited personally.)
My imaan is not strong, i havent been to any orphanage. My parents were orphans, so i know, understand, if not feel, the pain that comes with.
I also know alot of orphans being raised by relatives and in madarsahs in pakisan.
I know seven children who lost their father 2 years ago, and now their mother as well. They all are under 12 years of age, some are with relatives and others have been sent to madarsahs. If i had the means i wouldve adopted. Im a single mother myself.
I have been to orphanages in pakistan and Morocco. I have also spoken to people who have adopted from orpanages in kazakhsitan, russia and azerbaijan, orphanage directors there, social workers who facilitate adoption from those countries etc.
I have written previously how many orphans never ever make itt o an orphanage and get swallowed up by human traffickers. Morrocan government has been fighting a concept called petit bon, where orphan girls are taken and given to maids and to be raised as maids for the next generation of the 'masters' they are physically and sexually abused and then raise yet another generation of these slaves.
Islam condemns homosexuality...that is a fact. No one can deny it.
However, if you stop thinking about them being homosexuals and just people who are saving a life...it changes things.
This world we are a part of...everyday mundane life...taking things for granted like clothes, shoes, cars, a job, etc. These are things some orphans cannot even dream of...let alone aspire to.
Maybe if these homosexuals adopt a little boy or girl, give him/her a good life and education...he/she could make it out of there and change their destiny.
For a lot of children, its an opportunity and if I was an orphan - I would take it.
P.S. - Khudana Khwasta...if it were my own child in such a situation. I would prefer he/she be adopted by a gay couple versus being in an orphanage where their lives would be in far greater danger. I think one issue here is also the image of gay life...a lot seem to be thinking gay people are all and only about sex when thats not the case. They lead very normal lives, the difference being only the obvious.