Operation Lionheart: Joint Afghan-Pakistani-American offensive around Durand Line

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Interesting news on a joint effort between Pakistan, Afghanistan, and the US component of the NATO ISAF forces. They are coordinating an offensive to drive the Taliban out of havens inside Pakistan and concentrating them along the Durand Line.

What’s new is the supportive tone about the Pakistan Army being made by the Afghans. Could be a continuation of the turn in relations that seems to have begun with Zardai and Karzai’s chuminess.

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Meanwhile, Afghan Defense Ministry on Sunday disclosed that a tri-partite operation dubbed ‘Qalb-e-Shir’ or ‘Lion Heart’ with the involvement of Afghan troops, NATO-led International Security Assistance (ISAF) and Pakistani army has been launched against insurgents in the border area 10 days ago.

The objective of this operation, Azimi asserted, was to sandwich the militants on both sides of the Durand Line the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

“On one side of the line are Afghan and ISAF troops while on the other side is Pakistani army. We support the operation carried out by Pakistan army and Pakistani side backs our operation against militants,” he noted.

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International and Afghan troops and their counterparts in Pakistan this month launched the anti-militant ‘Operation Lionheart’ along the border.

“This operation will help to deny the enemies of Afghanistan safe havens in Pakistan,” the spokesman for a NATO-led force Brig-Gen Richard Blanchette, told the media.

Cooperation between NATO troops and the Pakistani army was the best it had ever been, said Brig-Gen Blanchette.

The cooperation was the result of tripartite meetings between the NATO-led ISAF security force in Afghanistan, the Afghan military and Pakistani forces, said Blanchette.

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Pakistani forces are probably supplying Gatorade to the coalition forces I bet.

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Pakistani forces are probably supplying Gatorade to the coalition forces I bet.
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You sure are a proud Pakistani. Look how you are trying to enhance Pakistan’s reputation. NOT!

It is strange that no Indian or Chinese living in the West will ever talk bad about their army or their country. Mind you one is a dictatorship one party rule and the other one is a broken Jagirdari (gandhi clan, Lallu clan etc. etc) party system. Still Indians and Chinese have far more self-respect than so many West settled Pakistanis. Pity!

Is that because you are a full blown Islamist? or just suffering from low self esteem. (BTW being an Islamist and low self esteem go hand in hand)

This is the result of Pak army’s belated action in Bajore area. Finally NATO and Pak army are “equals”. We waited far too long to conduct a serious military operation against these pathetic tribal barbarians. As a result, NATO didn’t take Pak army seriously.

You will now see more intelligence sharing and more joint ops. Hopefully the mutual trust reaches a point where Pak army is provided with drones so that we ourselves can send the Arab and Uzbek jihadis straight to the Jahannum.

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So I am suppose to lie and sing praises? Its obvious this whole mention of Pakistan in there is just to fool and appease the anti-American population of Pakistan. Grow up, seriously. Singing blind praises and making a clown out of yourself does not enhance Pakistan's reputation.

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this is in sharp contrast to what pak army has been complaining about recently. i hope it doesnt play a double game on the lashkars who bravely defended against anti pak isaf supported militants

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btw karzai hasnt changed one little bit as proved by his statements post obama election win. he specifically asked obama for an attack on pakistani soil

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This is an unforgivable terrain...all players will settle into dust...but how you make fools wiser...lol

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By not repeating the history

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Let them repeat the history. Things will be return to the natural order eventually.

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Afghanistan will always be like it always was… All the success stories and victories are noise with a spin and for home consumption… The world will know once the smoke clears.

But as the dust begin to settle after seven long years of one victory and success after another some very familiar tone has started echoing the mountains of A-Stan

BTW This is not the first time, I am sure it won’t be the last.

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You mean to say, Afghanistan will always be a place where poverty stricken uncouth tribal warlords kill each other, where woman are worse than animals, where there are no jobs, where opium is the mainstay for survival?

Man that's hardly something to be proud of or smirk about.

Afghanistan was let alone to be the way it was for long time because the global powers never considered it to be useful for any purpose. Additionally the global powers (romans, ottomans) never considered it be a danger.

However the game got changed when Russians started looking for warm waters, and Brits felt that Russians should not get it.

That's the time that trials and tribulations of Afghanistan started and they are still on. There are only two choices for Afghans now.

  1. Be part of the civilized global order, and turn Afghanistan into a prosperous state
  2. Be bombed day and night and keep Afghanistan as poverty stricken where warlords rule.

It is not America's rule, it is God's injunction that the nations who fail to adapt are removed from the earth and new nations take over their lands.

Pakistan is especially linked to the fate of Afghanistan., simply because the two countries are joined at the hip.

If Pakistan works for stabliizing and civilizing Afghanistan, it will be good for both. If on the other hand Pakistan or Pakistanis f@rt around and create stink in Afghanistan, then guess what, we won't have good smell in our house too.

Afghanistan is a speck, a tiny dot with zero "developed" resources, no education, no police or army worth a dime. Their population size is less than a couple of Pakistani cities (say Karachi + Lahore).

And the last thing Pakistanis should do (from human and civil behavior pov), is to encourage instability or laugh at the abject lawlessness in Afghanistan.

This is a golden chance to change the fate of Afghanistan. There is no reason to talk about Afghan history (last 200 years) especially if their history is all about lawlessness, poverty, and lack of human values.

If Pakistanis do not support development and peace in afghanistan (doesn't matter who brings peace to afghanistan), pretty soon our own home will burn too and it already has started burning. And this is nothing to smirk about.

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Genghis Khan came there and left...

Alexander the Great came there and left...

British came there and left...

US/NATO + Pakistan Army is there now...and they don't have a clue how and when to leave...they are just trapped... :D

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One should leave Afghans to chose their own destiny, all this democracy sham-o-cracy is nothing but hot air baloon....

Since your pearls of wisdon are off the chart care to educate guppies who is proud of what.. Thank, you....

P.S: Rest of your lots and lots of noise deleted for obvious reasons.

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You forgot the mighty 150K strong red army.... Seems like yanks and their cronies are now getting the message... Keep an eye for the spin.

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I am sorry...just skipped a piece of history or my ignorance...hmmmmmmm

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Actually Yanks and their cronies (Pakistan, Saudi Arabian royals, and UK) provided arms and money for Afgahn's success against Ruskies. It is kind of childish to be pompous about Russian defeat in afghanistan. Only little kids with no historical and tactical knowledge would brag about the whole scenario.

Too bad Afghans too forgot who gave them food and fuel and turned against the very source of their sustenance. Jis Thali may kaho usi main chaid.

Nothing new for Nashukra Afghans. Hamid Karzai and his family was fully protected and clothed and fed in Pakistan. And yet this great Pushtoon turned against Pakistan the moment he became the mayor of Kabul.

People who poke fun and make it childish about Ruskie defeat forget that in 1985, every Jihadi commander was running to Pakistan yelling bachao, bacho, sala marta hai.

Gengi khan or Gunji khan examples are too old and hence no good in the age of aerial bombardment.

In 1985, 6 six years into the war, Russians for the first time deployed non-Muslim elite commandos who used their gunships to destroy every nook where Muj could hide. Muj had no defense against them. Had the US left the Muj at that time, Afghanistan would have become a commie state. And democrats were almost ready to leave Afghanistan thinking that 6 years is enough to fight the Russians.

Gen. Zia is on record saying Americans are fighting a big war and they want to use peanuts (apparent swipe at democratic president Jimmy Carter)

It was only thanks to Republican administration of newly elected Prez. Regaon that Muj received an effective weapon against Russian gunships and what they say the rest is history.

If Americans and Pakistanis are as cruel as Russians were, or as cruel as the Talibans are, you would not see a single Talbian within 6 months.

So count your blessings before inflating the little Taliban heads.

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^ Burqa, We have a jokes forum, and there are quite a few history forums on the net too, that will help you refine considerably.

That said I strongly suggest you take a crash course in Afghan history, a quick lesson in asymmetric warefare along with geography/afghan terrain and most of all a quick search on what hight level Brit officers are now saying....... That will sum up the end results...

P.S: Afghans/pashtoon will not accept foreign warlords in Afghanistan, 7 years down the road and still going, want to bet it will be the same in another 70.. any takers??????

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That's probably true. But what of the Tajiks and Uzbeks and Hazaras and others who don't want Pashtoon rule and would prefer foreigners?

The problem is that Afghanistan seems locked in conflict between Pashtoons who want to rule without foreign influence and non-Pashtoons who want to avoid Pashtoon rule and will embrace foreign influence if it helps.

Afghanistan fails to do what Pakistan, for all its flaws, manages - bring together different ethnicities with different cultures to peacefully engage in the political process.

Afghans are too ready to turn to arms. Pashtoons are too ready to use the gun to take control, and equally non-Pashtoons are too ready to take up arms to deny Pashtoons control. The country is stuck in a vicious cycle.

If as in the current situation, Pashtoons are pushed out of power, they will fight to regain control. If as in the previous situation under the Taliban, non-Pashtoons are pushed out of power, they will start looking abroad for support to regain it.

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Yep, that is the history of Afghanistan and no one could change that, Seven long years should be a lesson..

One of the key Pashtoon demand is that all foreign troops should be out.. If that happens puppet Karzai who can hardly rule one block in Kabul will meet the same fate as Najinullah who was also a tribesman.. A regieme collapse will bring back Pashtoons in a hear beat and the struggle will continue just like after the Soviet withdrawl of Afghanistan...

Foreign intervention has never been the solution to Afghan problems not in the past not now, it has only made it worse... Most Afghans are a tribal culture and until they breakout of this nomad mentality the cycle will continue... The solution can only be found from within not from without

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Is that a good thing? Quite aside from any consequences for Afghanistan or its people, that struggle forced Pakistan and Iran to be burdened with a very large number of Afghan refugees and drove a huge wedge between Pakistan and Iran.

That's true. But I don't see any Afghan faction in the past 30 years that's actually trying to look for a solution rather than just power and their own vision of the country, be that vision looting or puritanical.