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everybody pray n smile :D
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^^ u really need a psychiatrist...
or you do need to learn how to comprehend long sentences or paragraphs... i know many indians who have this problem, i don't know if you are one of them...
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Why does Pakistan use unprotected pickup trucks to move troops in tribal areas. They should be using Armored Personnel Carriers. APCs provide better protection against ambushes.
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Our Government is fighting.
Our Army is fighting.
Our Nation is fighting.
But Where are J.I. & Imran and also see this report.
Nawaz falls ill, Maulana flies off, both avoid Taliban fury
Sunday, October 18, 2009
By Rauf Klasra
ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani reportedly felt fairly miffed when informed at the eleventh hour that the until recently extremely healthy Mian Nawaz Sharif would be missing out on the COAS security briefing ‘due to bad health’. It may be recalled that the Chief of the Army Staff, General Parvez Kayani had been invited by the prime minister on Friday to give a detailed in-camera briefing to the entire parliamentary political leadership on the overall security situation and the pending Waziristan operation in particular.
The rather implausible ‘bad health condition’ excuse was said to have found no takers because only a day before this critical security briefing by top military bosses to the top political leadership of the country, a smiling and cheerful Nawaz Sharif had come all the way from Lahore to address a press conference at the Punjab House Islamabad to convey his “serious reservations” over the Kerry-Lugar Bill. However, the PML-N Quaid went back to Lahore the same evening even though he had been invited to attend the extremely important briefing.
One source said that PM Gilani who has always taken pride in bringing together both politicians and khakis on critical national issues was extremely disappointed by the inexplicable absence of Nawaz Sharif.
Knowledgeable sources claimed that Nawaz Sharif probably did not want to be viewed as having personally and directly endorsed full military action against the Taliban in a particular operation such as the Waziristan operation and particularly so at a time when the Taliban had already started vengeful strikes in different parts of the country.
The sources said JUI leader Maulana Fazlur Rehman was also found missing from the briefing almost on the same grounds, as he had taken a flight to Turkey a day before this meeting, so as he too was not seen on television cameras listening to the briefing by the chief of army staff getting approval to launch attacks on Taliban in Waziristan.
The sources said the absence of Nawaz was felt acutely because in the past at least on two similar occasions when the top military leadership was invited to give briefing to the politicians, PML-N leader had ensured his presence in the Prime Minister House to interact with the military command. Though Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif and Nisar Ali Khan were present in the meeting, their top leader’s absence was viewed by relevant circles in a different light.
Talking to this correspondent Imran Gardezi, the press secretary to prime minister, confirmed that Nawaz Sharif had been invited to the briefing but he did not come. “We were told that Nawaz Sharif was not well”, Imran said. However, he refused to give replies to some other questions.
Meanwhile, giving the background information forcing Nawaz to go “under ground” for a few months, the sources said, these days Nawaz was passing through difficult times and was trying to avoid many important issues and situations for obvious reasons.
The illness of Shahbaz Sharif was also a cause of serious worry for Nawaz as he was once again summoned by his doctors in London to get serious about his medication and treatment for a long time. Earlier, scarred by the embarrassing fact of him accepting funds from ISI, he was then reportedly told by the Saudi King Abdullah to not to participate in the bye elections in Pakistan, as a part of his deal with Musharraf and not to take part in politics for ten years.
In his absence, Shahbaz Sharif-led Punjab government hurriedly moved a petition in the court to get the elections delayed to give a valid excuse to Nawaz for not contesting the elections. The court stay order saved Sharif from embarrassment. However, this move further gave currency to the reports that Nawaz was put under pressure by his mighty Saudi benefactors not to contest the elections. Nawaz then had to come all the way from Lahore to address the media speculations over his long silence over Kerry-Lugar Bill.
The sources said Nawaz was also unhappy when he faced a hostile question during his press conference at Punjab House that on the one hand he had been championing the cause of the Charter of Democracy and on the other his brother Shabaz and opposition leader Nisar Ali Khan had been holding late night secret meetings with the Chief of Army Staff General Kayani. However, a smart politician in Nawaz instantly gave a new spin to this troubling question by making a comment that “if the meeting with COAS was held to discuss the security issues, then it should have been held in day light.”
His reply to the media persons gave an idea to the listener as both Shahbaz and Nisar had held the secret meeting with COAS without his knowledge and consent and Nawaz Sharif like all of us too came to know about this late night meeting through the media. But, a PML-N source said this was not true as Nawaz Sharif was properly consulted before the meeting with COAS even about the timing of the meeting and only after his nod, Shahbaz and Nisar had gone all the way to GHQ to hold a late night meeting with the chief of army staff.
Talking to The News, Senator Pervez Rashid said that PML-N leader was not feeling well because of shoulder pain so he stayed away from this briefing. He said Nawaz Sharif wanted to attend the briefing but the pain forced him to send his regrets. Pervez Rashid further clarified that we needed to understand that there was no major difference in the policies and approaches of top PML-N leaders Shahbaz Sharif, Ch Nisar Ali Khan and Nawaz Sharif, so if they attended the meeting, it meant that the whole party leadership was represented there.
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^^ that’s quite a confidence you have on your country’s army 
^^ u really need a psychiatrist...
or you do need to learn how to comprehend long sentences or paragraphs... i know many indians who have this problem, i don't know if you are one of them...
why dont you join me to see the psychiatrist as i m jst replying to your ideas ji..
And as far as my long sentences are concerned, it was to clarify many things in all of your minds because u all are already taking many issues wrongly and forming an immature opinion about that....
Ok ji now.. Short and Shweet... :p
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what does HANIBAL mean?
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Our Government is fighting.
Our Army is fighting.
Our Nation is fighting.
But Where are J.I. & Imran and also see this report.
Nawaz falls ill, Maulana flies off, both avoid Taliban fury
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Hmmm,…
And where was Zardari? Why didn’t he attend the meeting?](“http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=25069”)
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Our Government is fighting.
Our Army is fighting.
Our Nation is fighting.
But Where are J.I. & Imran and also see this report.
And where are MQM and ANP? Celebrating the birthdays of their quaids or fighting for the land in karachi?
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I think JI and Imran both must be preparing for the IDPs of north waziristan.. Salute to them.
People who want to do something for the nation dont waste their time on forums, varna they would be here to reply ur allegations ji.. tc n smile :p
plz give me the number of that teacher who TAUGHT u these which u r trying to TEACH me here.. No hard feelings Bro/Sis but please be realistic when posting such type of things. In all your above 4 points, why there wasn't anything about the American brutality in afghanistan? Pakistan army supporting to fight against taliban but bhayya for what? what they have done? that PLANNED AGAINST MUSLIM WTC attack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you r still at home after the brutal Carpet bombing by the american airforce on innocent civillian afghan brothers, then i think u should remain quiet also for what taliban is doing in retaliation. (i m talking about the afghan talibans not abt TTP).
PLZ plz think that whatever is being done by the mujaheedins in afghanistan is in retaliation. 'they r defending themselves bhai'
ok just answer a simple question that if america attacks pakistan (khudanakhuwasta) in allegation of any attack on their soil, will you be with them or with us ?
So are you saying those so called innocent mujaheedins are defending themselves by killing innocent women, children, and men in Afghanistan?
PS. I am not taking sides of US here. I was never in favor of these wars.
If US attacks Pakistan (God forbid), we will be behind our army to protect our country.
Surprising indeed that the attitude here is already these , how did you put it in quotations " INNOCENT CIVILIANS" are being blamed for what is happening to them…Goes to show how much they will be “helped” by their Pakistani “Brothers” !
Oh yeah 5000rs in exchange for losing their home , their livings , their amentites , their food , their shelter , their existence ! Way to go :k:
So are you saying those so called innocent mujaheedins are defending themselves by killing innocent women, children, and men in Afghanistan?
PS. I am not taking sides of US here. I was never in favor of these wars.
If US attacks Pakistan (God forbid), we will be behind our army to protect our country.
In the same way mujaheedins are behind their muslim brothers to protect their religion, an islamic country. And who has informed you that the Mujaheedins are killing women, children and men in Afghanistan? Have you been there?
Plz plz for God sake, post the brutality of america also. Dont always blame mujhaeedins
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I am not supporting brutality of US but I am not going to support these mujahideen's either. The fact is that they are killing innocents in Afghanistan and until they stop that, they are not getting any sympathies from me.
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it seems that i m in the US Congress where everyone is just blaming muslims (for the acts that have actually been done by the zionists and their followers) to attack them through US Drone attacks and Indian agency's attacks on the innocent pakistani people.
Wake up muslims
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u r not supporting but u r not talking of it even. u should post some facts about the people killed by the americans in afghanistan and by the mujaheedins(as per ur info).
plz search on net what did america do in iraq. how many muslims were killed. i dont think everyone their was SADDAM !
and have u seen any war where only one party does everything and the other one keeps quiet as we saw in iraq and afghan war? where were the WMD . Why didnt saddam stupid use those against americans ? Why didnt OSAMA attack america again? Why are they silent?
plz think
Check the news now - all these civilians are being registered in different camps across the country, food is being distributed out, shelter has been provided etc etc.
And believe it or not these Civialns are as much responsible as our government and the army, for the mess we are in. Most of these civilians still support or have sympathy for these talibans. They allowed these monsters to take over their cities/towns.
And just look back what happened in SWAT. Do you even know how many pakistanis helped the refugees? They were provided with almost everything, even when they were returning - they were provided free transport with AC buses. When they returned they were chanting slogans such as “Pakistan Army Zindabad” and were holding Pakistan Flags. They had tears in their eyes out of happiness and almost all of them appreciated army hardword. Now their living in ‘peace’ because of our Jawaans Sacrifices.
Just goes on to show how much Pakistanis and Pak Army have helped these people out. Our Jawaans gave up their own food for these Civialns and gave their lives to protect our Nation but yet people like you come here and claim that we are “throwing them in camps”. Just goes on to show no matter what we do for our people but people like you still won’t believe it.
Even Pakistanis abroad sent out millions of £££ for these people, when they were in crisis. You need to open your eyes and start checking out news. Don’t just make things up with closed eyes. 
u r not supporting but u r not talking of it even. u should post some facts about the people killed by the americans in afghanistan and by the mujaheedins(as per ur info).
plz search on net what did america do in iraq. how many muslims were killed. i dont think everyone their was SADDAM !
and have u seen any war where only one party does everything and the other one keeps quiet as we saw in iraq and afghan war? where were the WMD . Why didnt saddam stupid use those against americans ? Why didnt OSAMA attack america again? Why are they silent?
plz think
This thread is about Pak army's drive against the terrorists who have been killing innocent Pakistanis. If you wish to discuss other topics open seperate threads.
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Again, I don’t support any of these wars. I was against them for a long time. There you go… Afghan girls maimed by acid vow to go to school - CNN.com
Taliban execute three civilians in Afghanistan
Losing Hearts and Minds and Lives in Afghanistan - TIME
there you few links for you.
Now think twice before you say I don’t talk about them.
So yeah, back to my first point that talibans are killing innocents in Afghanistan and nomatter what kind of explaination you come up with, their acts are not justified by any means.