One Of the Worst Countries In The World For Muslims, Is Hindustan-AKA India.

Looking at facts and data I would say
Yemen
Syria
Libya
Iraq
Kurdistan
@diwana if you consider women as humans than Saudi Arabia for treating them like animals and Iran. How is treatment of half the population so poorly acceptable

Not to say that India does not commit atrocities Muslim women have more rights in India than in KSA
KSA treats Pak immigrants worse than slaves
Sadly muslims are suffering everyday every where

Are we considering Shias as muslims also?

From what I know China and Myanmar seems to be the worst.

India is currently bad but there are pockets. For example is the worst for Kashmir and Gujrat. But slightly better than other states. Also it depends how good economically a muslim family is doing. I know a lot of fluent families, doing perfectly fine and seem content. And if you notice from the vdieos of brutality coming out of there, mostly are the extreme poor who get in the hands of fanatic hindus.

And when it comes to extreme poor, trust me you arent safe anywhere regardless of the religion. Thats what social injustice brings

This was reported a few years ago even Saudis did better than India..

https://in.reuters.com/article/g20-w…85C00420120613

HOW THEY RANK 1. Canada 2. Germany 3. Britain 4. Australia 5. France 6. United States 7. Japan 8. Italy 9. Argentina 10. South Korea 11. Brazil 12. Turkey 13. Russia 14. China 15. Mexico 16. South Africa 17. Indonesia 18. Saudi Arabia 19. India


Glad you caught it exactly at the same time.

Fine.

But why did you not edit or remove your first post and let it be there with your wrong impression even though you are the director and you could easily do that to send clear message???

Both posts are posted at the same time 10 hours ago.

It means you wanted your first post be there for a reason.:wink:


Are you trying to find excuses or justification for Muslims being treated badly because they are poor?

What is this got to do with rich/well off as opposed to being poor Muslims???


Yes.

Hindustan already is ONE of the worst countries in the world for Muslims to be in.

What makes you think it is not now but will be soon?

Please elaborate.

Thank you.


Anyhow:

I do not see ANY dispute or disagreement on the question I raised so far.

Hindustan is the worst country for Muslims

Pakistan is the worst country for Hindus.

What makes it More so? Right wing bigots on either side. What makes it less so? Liberals on either side.

Aur kuch?

Inga uru winku podu, machaan!

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No you are reading too much into not editing lol. I just didnt feel like editing thats all. :smiley:

And I read in detail what happened to Muslims in China and before that in Myanmar. Whats happening in India is still not parallel to that.

Justification, what justification? lol no there is no “justification” per se. Its a strong word you used there. I was just stating the obvious. From what I understand in India if you are somewhat rich you’ll be worshipped. Money is a very strong factor. Remember the “banya” mentality? So its that. Thats why the orange flag holders are attacking all those who are poor and mostly like day to day wagers, cuz they are considered weak.

What else is left? Um. what makes me think its not now but will be soon: Their progression towards extremism. Like what I pointed above as to targeting weak only is current trend. It can change and will change eventually if they keep going with this pace. (Lets hope not).
So its a gradual inclination. The only thing that can prevent this to happen is a change in regime which is not going to happen anytime soon.

One way or the other I firmly believe that India is shooting itself in the foot. Muslims are a very vital pillar of that country (unlike China) and if they are removed India will collapse. I hope that summed up everything you wanted to know.

Peer Pinjar of predicting Imran Khan as PM fame from 1995 is now saying that China and Russia will become Muslim though I don't know if it is before or after Imam Mahdi's appearance. China surely is doing all it can as it is now allegedly sterilizing or limiting Uighur reproductive rights so their population dies off.

India is supposed to get a thrashing by Bangladesh and Bhutan let alone China. Indian astrologers are predicting the breakup and end of Pakistan since it is to the west of Bharat Mata. I have been hearing about that for a while but there are surely interesting times ahead.

The kali yug will end when Vishnu dev will come down to earth as Kali, riding on a horse with a sword. Not sure if he will target Hindus or Muslims. But everyone needs to be on best behavior. And let us not forget Mahadevs wrath.

Hmmm… Just did not feel like editing. OK. :rolleyes:

If anyone reads my carefully written question, the person will NOT talk about any other place or country that is treating Muslims badly in the world.

The question is about Hindustan. Period.

Moreover dividing Muslims in to poor versus rich Muslims is a made up difference merely to create confusion among readers and basically saying:

Oh no! It’s not.

Rich Muslims are still NOT being treated badly. So it’s not the Muslims in general, it’s the poor Muslims who are being treated inhumanely. Rich Muslims are NOT.

Current day Hindustan IS hateful, biased, discriminatory towards Muslims in general.

Maybe in future it may get even worse and, but yes at this time Hindustan IS one of the worst places in the world for Muslims to live in.

All one has to do is to be informed about the current affairs.

P.S. This is NOT a comparative thread as to the places in the world bad for Muslims living in different countries nor it is about different areas in one country. Hope this is clear enough. It’s about two choices: Yes or No to the question posed and reason(s) for the answer. :slight_smile:

Now this thread has open question. With two options. The similar kind of question you might have got in school or college etc.

Two Options.

Yes or No.


Relevancy is strictly advised.

Be my guest of honor to stay on the course.

No irrelevant, tangential, far-fetched comments please.. Thank you. :)

@Southie **Sahib you are right YES: Both Countries treat Minorities Pretty Awful!

IN ADDITION TO TREATING MINORITIES LIKE DIRT…

INDIA HAS THE SOLE DISTINCTION ON THIS PLANET WE CALL EARTH WHO’S MAJORITY POPULATION OF HINDUS…

TREAT ****THEIR OWN WIDOWED MOTHERS LIKE CAGED ANIMALS ****“ACHOOT” i.e. UNTOUCHABLES …YOU KNOW THAT AND ALL HINDUS KNOW THAT!

SO WHAT YOUR JUDGESHIP IS DOING ABOUT THIS MAHA ATROSITY! BEING COMMITTED FOR CENTURIES ON 46 MILLION MOTHERS…:bummer:

SO HOPE YOUR MOTHER IS NOT BEING TREATED LIKE THAT???**


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@Southie **SAHIB WHAT CRIME DID THESE 46 MILLION WOMEN COMMIT???..:bummer:

WHY ARE THEY ABANDONED IN ASHRAMS???:disgust:

DO HUMAN BEINGS DO THIS TO THEIR OWN MOTHERS WHO RAISE THEM???:teary1:**

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**Well My Point is WHY SHOULD HINDUSTAN EVEN CARE ABOUT MUSLIMS WHEN THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THEIR VERY OWN WIDOWED MOTHERS…46 MILLION + 150 More as result of CHINA INDIA CONFLICT!..If you think this is digressing from the Topic then I think you are Ignoring the WORSE CRIME ON EARTH!..AGAINST THE MOTHERS WHO CARRIED US IN THEIR WOMBS FOE NINE MONTHS PLUS TWO YEARS OF LOVE AND CARE REWARDED WITH ABANDONMENT!

THE HOLY QURAN TEACHES US…OPPRESSION IS WORSE THAN MURDER…:bummer:

HINDUSTAN IS OPPRESSING THEIR OWN MOTHERS…IN THE WEST WE HAVE AN APPROPRIATE TERM FOR THIS **BEHAVIOR? :nook:

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Well, there are two different issues.

1- Disregard of Humanity.

2- Religious based hatred.

This thread is about the Religious hatred.

P.S. But yes.

On humanitarian ground, Hindustan is a very scary,k treacherous, hateful place for a long time in many ways for people from different traits including Muslims, Christians, Women, Unborn female infant identified on Ultrasound as female before birth and wives of dead husbands (Widows) .

This graph/report was published 2015 I am sure the situation is even worse now.

https://qz.com/india/959802/india-is…ious-violence/

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That's the view of many Pakistani muslims, question is do indian muslims (who are very patriotic) feel the same way, esp right now? Do they still think Pakistan was a mistake or a failed idea? Do they still think India is and will remain a tolerant society with no danger of becoming third-class citizens just because of their muslim faith?

Do I think Bharat has the potential to become a dangerous place for muslims? Triple yes. There's a reason why creation of Pakistan was necessary. Certain Hindus havr always viewed Islam as something evil and alien to the subcontinent, their dislike or hatred for Islam can possibly turn very ugly and given today's political climate, this hatred may become even more volatile.
I'm not blind and don't want to sound biased. We ourselves don't treat our minorities any good either, just recently a Christian citizen was killed by a neighbour in KPK because the animal didn't want to live next to a christian. I cannot express the anger and hopelessness I felt when I heard how a poor soul lost his life by a socalled "muslim" for absolutely no reason.
Only difference is, in India, muslims are more likely to experience religious fanaticism on a larger scale in the near future than Pakistani minorities. But knowing hotheaded Pakistanis and their distorted version of Islam, who's to say they won't seek revenge for India's treatment of muslims by taking it out on our own minorities. Humanity has disappeared.

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Do you know what is the best kind of propaganda? The one which stretches the truth.

Many Indian ministers who visit Pakistan for the very first time have commented off the record as to how misinformed they were about Pakistan. I think it is mostly because of the Indian media. After US media also joined in to bash Pakistan for America’s vested interests in the region, even the Indians who had doubted Indian media before, started believing all that as gospel truth.

Yes, there is discrimination in Pakistan toward minorities. But it is far far (sic.) less than in other places. Let me give you a rough online way to gauge the discrimination in Pakistani society.

1- Create an account on a Pakistani political forum(PPF), an American political forum(APF) and an Indian political forum(IPF) each. The forum preferably should have roughly the same number of users.

2- Ask following questions on each:

PPF: Should all Hindus in Pakistan be killed?
APF: Should all Muslims in the US be killed?
IPF: Should all Muslims in India be killed?

3- Count the number of Yes/Likes/Approvals, and divide them by the number of users at each forum. You will see for yourself who is more and who is less tolerant.

That was a social media experiment conducted a couple of years ago and Pakistanis were the most tolerant. I’ve never seen a Pakistani forum bashing someone that way based on cast or religion or nationality with consensus. On the other hand many popular American and Indian forums have plenty of samples of that with thousands of likes. Last year around this time, there was a news on Yahoo about Hajj, and the top 1000 comments by number of likes were bashing Muslims. Top comment that had more than 3000 likes was talking about dropping bombs on Mecca during Hajj.

Here are couple of more social experiments about attitudes in USA vs Pakistan:

Woman Harrased
Non-Muslim Harrased

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I have read Your posts. You are a thoughtful person, and your nick suits you. I am sure you will agree that non Muslims have been railroaded with false charges of blasphemy. The bigger picture - these blasphemy laws are regressive. Let people express themselves. If ur faith is strong, what others say about Alla or prophet should not matter at all. These blasphemy laws have gone way pass their expiry date.

Why do you assume I support the poor treatment of these women? Look forward to your response

You asked for my judgment, and I say it is abominable,

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