when women weep at something insensitive that men do to destroy women’s trust, & when women call them to ask how men are doing…
obviously such men cannot be forgiven, unless they undo what they did,
do women fair better in coping after separating from their partners?
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dush, men and women are very different in every aspect. thats da 1st thing u need to understand before trying to comprehend their insensitivity etc.
u know, there are some men who pretend to be mean and insensitive to hide their feelings of shame, low self-esteem, lack of confidence etc.
i guess tats da way they cope, i wudnt know.
i for one, have no desire to go around looking for the perfect truth abt men :D
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as for women fairing better after separating from their partners, depends on the relationship they shared.
if it was a meaningless, one-sided relationship, then yes women are better off without it.
when relationships fail, naturally we feel hurt and broken. but things happen for some very good reasons. look deeper into urself instead of the other party. the blame game is just gonna make u hurt more and longer. its not easy but keep moving ahead and away from the negative feelings. dun look at what u have lost. put ur sight on da good things tats gonna come ur way.
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when women weep at something insensitive that men do to destroy women's trust, & when women call them to ask how men are doing...
obviously such men cannot be forgiven, unless they undo what they did,
do women fair better in coping after separating from their partners?
how this is different among certain men and certain women who may enjoy being insensitive.
and anyone who is going to say women are not capabale of being insensitive i refer you to the vast amounts of fiction and non fiction works by women on saas bahu and nand and all that stuff.
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what is done can never be undone. So they should never be forgiven?
p.s. this thread reminds me of PCG :D
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womens' tears are priceless, and being brave is pricey!
women can do both,
but often
men run miles away from either. & so they end up losing what they were trying to win.
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when women weep at something insensitive that men do to destroy women's trust, & when women call them to ask how men are doing...
obviously such men cannot be forgiven, unless they undo what they did,
do women fair better in coping after separating from their partners?
It takes two to Tango, as the saying goes.
For most of us, we get plenty of chances to mend the relationships we are in (both men and women). Some fail to avail the opportunities and then blame the others or fate.
Women show lots of insensitivities in relationships, same like men do. However, men absorb those and they keep on hiding the truth and assuming that things will change. When womens' insensitivities reach a critical mass, then men stop caring and then some may start looking for options.
Who forgives who is pointless, unless we objectively look upon ourselves and understand where we need to improve.
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In “YOUR” opinion, is there **“ANY” **particular habbit/ quality in a woman that is bad ?
Also in “YOUR” opinion, is there **“ANY” **particular habbit/ quality in a man that is good ?
^^With no offense, It doesn’t seem so, after reading most of your threads.
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God bless you.
hurtful incidences may never happen to you.
our frames of references, and our actions are only as broad or as narrow as we relate ourselves to the world around us.
some contacts are bitter life experiences, and yes, i also believe in giving a benefit of doubt... yet other cruel and unjustified incidences indicate a trend, of mockery, and of causing misery for pleasure.
so what and who would you 'emphasize', forewarn against, expose, to prevent others from becoming a prey to such ignoble traps.
it is not just one gender that it liable for the well being of other!
it takes two to get through
& it takes one to get GET one!
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Its confusing.
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dont see wots so wrong about enjoying it when a woman calls u to ask how u’r doing… m glad u dint write the criminal code, caz ur prescribed punishment is quite harsh.
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God is watching over us all, my dear brother.
you try your best and then, leave the rest to the Almighty to bring people to justice.
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God bless you.
hurtful incidences may never happen to you. our frames of references, and our actions are only as broad or as narrow as we relate ourselves to the world around us. some contacts are bitter life experiences, and yes, i also believe in giving a benefit of doubt... yet other cruel and unjustified incidences indicate a trend, of mockery, and of causing misery for pleasure.
so what and who would you 'emphasize', forewarn against, expose, to prevent others from becoming a prey to such ignoble traps.
it is not just one gender that it liable for the well being of other! it takes two to get through
& it takes one to get GET one!
I understand your intentions now. I appologise for my criticism, as I was not aware of the intentions behind your words. Kindly forgive me for that.
May Allah bless you and your family with all the blessings of this life and hereafter.
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Dushwari *sister, just wanted to add few words. Kindly next time use *"SOME" men as when you generalize anything bad about men, it might hurt those men upon whom your words are not implied.
Also kindly use "SOME" *women when you generalize anything good about all women as *"all" women are not "angels"
Thanks
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More male bashing nonsense...
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don't be insecure, men.
it is not conducive to concurring on a societal debate as sensitive as the rights of people, as opposite genders, upon each other.
if no nonserious tone can be sustained, and no sarcasm can be practiced, you tell, would that not be better?
facts are facts are facts
lies are lies are lies
no one can generalize anything.
you also cannot ignore individual instance - on either side - mens' or womens'
but it is true women are at a disadvantage, on a greater magnitude and on many levels - be they societal or personal.
don't just think of women as victims - think of them as equal partners.
would you like to be treated as you treat them?
how would the context drift into unfairness, then?
not all men are bad, but many are. not all women are good, but many are... & they're seen as a threat solely bacause they are strong and have poise and personal dignity.
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you canot generalize
but your basic stance is a generalization to start with.
on avg- many men ....
but then by that token you should be clear in saying that overwhelming majority does not.
many is meaningless without context, especially if you will use the stetemnt "on average"
its also misleading because the entence is not complete, so many men do X, but they are in a minority, they are in a majority, etc etc.
so how can you ask people to not generalize when you are generalizing yourself?
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fraudia,
each to her / his own. HAPPY???
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nope, doesn't really matter.
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a case in point as an example, can be of the whole process of deciding of marrying someone in particular, met and seen, in non-traditional manner, close to a good 3 quarters of a year.
mind you, if love and marriage is to happen, & people are well-wishing and normal practical in their well-wishing feel for the marriage, many couples meet each other for a split second, & they get together in no time, and they do just as well, as totally arranged marriages based on expectations of all kinds.
so, you wonder, why you are having to go through this assault of your personal dignity that you are being measured against some criteria, that you simply cannot be adapting or changing yourself into
& that is on top of the fact that this other person CAME TO YOU OUT OF OWN ACCORD, IN THE FIRST PLACE.
& you accepted that as a welcome beginning of a relationship.
during your talks and meetings, both of you went ahead in looking forward to the ultimate married stage, eventually.
so here are you wanting, at some point in your life, to experience this event (marriage) in life, as well.
you look towards it with all excitement, hope of a lovely time together with a loved one, and then you meet the other family members, you think to your self, that everything will go well, and that complimentary couple will do just fine, in fact that is what attracted you to each other... & everything seemed going well.
all of a sudden, the other person you 'thought' you had recently, began liking and have been taking as a wonderful future life partner, comes across & says,
you are not religious, you are different is personality, so you know, we need to reassess, whether we are good for each other or not. mean while, there is also an indication, a much more complex factor, that this person's parents and family has reservations against you, as well.
even though. as a token of esteem, you change for the other person, as much as you can, you are constantly alluded to as someone who is now raising questions in the mind of the other person, you knew you are in a relationship with.
your emotions in hopes of not letting go the other person, are conveniently read as an annoying and 'confusing' aspect of this fizzling-our relationship.
you are a loving, caring, active, decent person otherwise, but when you are put in this situation, where your life is emotionally shocked.
what would you do?
remain nice and good or at least proactively prevent further damage to your trust in others?
would you call it bad, if you would step up and try out of the goodness of your heart and faithfully, to reason with the other person, that what happened , why all of a sudden, that person is displaying personal inability to make a decision.
how easy would it be for you to quietly let this person go far away from you, after having become so close to each other?
do you leave a situation as this unsettled at this juncture, or do you call for a decision from the other person, even made unilaterally at this painful point in time - even though it will mad saddening for you, if you did that, are you unreasonable?
men must learn be honest to themselves and those who they sadly take for granted.
More male bashing nonsense...