OK so music might be Haram but......

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What would you say to the fact that it was a song my an American Artist that bought me back towards islam?

For a while now I have put religion to one side, never stopped being a muslim or went down the wrong path but I never really made it part of my identity. I was not ‘proud’ to be a muslim, i felt somewhat indifferent.

Anyway then I listened to a song by Lupe Fiasco and I heard the following lyrics:

Now you can say it aint our fault if we never heard it
But if we know better than we probably deserve it
Jihad is not a holy ‘war’, wheres that in the worship?
Murdering is not Islam!
And you are not observant
And you are not a muslim
Israel don’t take my side cause look how far you’ve pushed them
Walk with me into the ghetto, this where all the Kush went
Complain about the liquor store but what you drinking liquor for?
Complain about the gloom but when’d you pick a broom up?

and since hearing this song, I thought if Lupe Fiasco and influential artist can talk about islam so openly and with pride so should I. Since then I honestly started taking more interest in coming back to the religion.

Yet music is haram…

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com on wat do we call"common sence"...if u know wat islam is u dont need to discus which music is haram n which halal??
all u need to know is, why music is haram !! hope u understand that...i guess u started the thread on that

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God will never answer trick questions.

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And Dawood Elaih Salaam was not a Muslim?

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^ He didn't sing songs. He recited Zaboor without musical instruments.

Music was popular in the time of the prophet (saw). I am sure if the Prophet (saw) had introduced music with Quranic verses, it would have been more attractive (apparently) for the people of that time, but in Islam we don't do it our way, we do it Allah's way, even if apparently it might not look reasonable/logical to us. We need to accept that Allah (Swt) knows BEST and a lot of times our mental capabilities are too limited to understand the wisdom behind HIS decisions.

For example. Even if apparently I make 100 girls Muslim by preaching them Islam, Allah (swt) doesn't require my efforts because in this case my 'way' of preaching was not in accordance to HIS prophet's ways (interaction with na-mehram). Ultimately "Hidayah" (salvation) is in the hands of Allah (swt), so it is not acceptable to Allah (Swt) if I do a good act through a bad way. Also doing a bad act with a good intention is also not acceptable unless it is done unintentionally.

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muslims follow the last book n the last prophet ,as they r final verdict...other prophets were for that spec period!!

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how convenient..

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What the heck, so if I get attracted to Islam just because the belly dancer was Muslim, does that make belly dancing halal?

For god sake (no pun intended) people, use some common sense.

Ahaa, when I first tasted sharab and knowing that sharab is available in jannat, I felt closer to islam. That should make sharab halal. Yes sir.

Johny Walker anyone?

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Me me me!!

No wait.. weekend is over :(

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This is an interesting trick played on our minds by Shaitan ... It is designed to make the evil look like a good thing. In fact what really happens is something else. Whilst doing something evil if Allah (SWT) Wills to give us Mercy then He will make us turn to Him and if our misdeeds are earning us His Wrath then He'll not bring it in our minds to seek Him.

If our actions make us closer to Him regardless of what we have done then that is His Mercy ... However often people after doing something wrong will increase in that wrong deed and hence will be moving away from Allah (SWT).

For those who believe they are moving closer to Him but in fact are doing the entire opposite thing - i.e. use the basis of one thing to do more of one thing then that will be going astray. Instead of submitting to the Legislated law they create for themselves their own law and take satisfaction in that and never realise that they were in fact being self-deceptive. Shaitan will often exploit such things as music with "good" lyrics and see to it that we miss or delay our obligations and we may take pleasure in thinking "our consciousness of Islam is increasing" but in reality there is little substance behind that belief. I'm not saying this is the case with you Inspiron ... rather it is the case with me.

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So who is your favourite singer?

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You naughty boy !!!

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The responses from religious people in this thread are both scary and hilarious. Your opinion is your opinion though, as long as you guys don't try to enforce this on others. personally i disagree with psyah and people like him/her the most.

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Repost:
Music is not Haram at all, and I challenge any Muslim who believes it is haram to back up their claims with evidence from ONLY official source which is the Quran. A lot of Islamic Mullah's like to spread their own propaganda and say stuff like Music is Haram and unfortunately Muslims just blindly follow them and don't check for themselves.

Show me a single verse in the Quran where it says Music is forbidden. Is there any? Nope, none at all. Therefore music is not haram. Yet many scholars and Mullah's will preach that it is.

It doesn't make sense for Music to be forbidden, because then TV becomes Haram too, Computer becomes haram, cell phone becomes haram, and many other things.

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Following is a response from alim network, answering a similar question. I hope it helps.

Generally speaking, music is deemed to be haram due to it’s effects on a
person’s soul and the possible effects on morals. It is also very addictive
and can lead to a person indulging in vain things which can make him lose
his purpose in life. I have observed the society around and am sure that the
gradual decadence of moral behaviour is based on 3 elements: Alcohol,
womanizing and music. You will observe this especially when you go to
Universities and colleges.

http://www.al-islam.org/organizations/aalimnetwork/msg00223.html

http://www.al-islam.org/laws/contemporary/muamalat5.html

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you are so intelligent!!!

adding to your comment i have not seen a single verse in Quran saying urine is Haram!!! now if it is not considered haram in Quran then going by your logic, it is Halal... whereas, doctors/scientist suggests that it can have hazardous to the human body.... how sick of these doctors...

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Two things that can't coexist in the same place, Music and remembrance (zikr) of Allah (s.w.t)

When I am ironing my clothes, polishing my shoes, working out in the Gym, or driving....etc. either I am singing or listening to any song to keep myself excited or my tongue is experiencing the sweetness of Darood sharif, kalma....etc. which warms my heart with feelings of purity.

BUT which one should I prefer to keep myself motivated ? Allah mentions this quality of a "Mo'min" in the Quran that their tongues are always fresh with the "Zikr" recitations of Allah either they are siting, standing or lying on soft beds.

BUT what benefit or harm do I get when I continue to do any of these activities in my life ?

One quality of zikr is that it removes the hurdles (troubles) from my way which are waiting for me (written in my fate) in the near future, but the greater benefit is that it makes zikr my strong habit.

What is the benefit of a strong habit ? Well, when one is totally confused and fearful one unintentionally performs one's strong habit as there is not enough time for the mind to think. Like after knowing that there is an earthquake, due to intense fear I might unintentionally run towards the room which I visit most often. SO ?

So, when I see the angel of death at the time of death I would be so scared and fearful that unintentionally I would be following my biggest habit.

Either I would be able to achieve what is mentioned in the hadith " the person who is able to recite Kalma-e-Tayyab at the time of death would directly go to Jannah"

OTHERWISE, there are a lot of other cases. A person singing his favorite song, another counting money, another business talking,...etc. while people around them failed to understand why at the last moments the person is not reciting

**"LA ILAHA ILLALLAHU MOHAMMADUR RASUL ALLAH"

May Allah bless us with the strength and wisdom to decide now, what we want to make our best habit before it is too late.... **

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A Saudi Prince’s son went out with his friends on a long drive. The music was on in a loud voice and they were singing and laughing while driving, when suddenly they got an accident. All of them died except the Saudi Prince’s son, who was in “ Nazaa” ( a state between life and death)

When people started reciting “Kalima ” in front of him so that he may also recite, they heard him repeating the wordings of his favourite song. He died without saying Kalima. When asked from a scholar, the reply was “When you see the angel of death you get so afraid that unintentionally you would repeat the wordings which you hear, read, think or say the most in your life.(as a habbit) So this man didn’t hear or recite "Kalima" most of the times in his life.

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^ The people who stood around the kid as he needed medical help should be ashamed of themselves. What kind of a crowd gathers around and watches someone die and not call the ambulance? lol. kalima would not help anyone in that situation. Plus the brain doesn't function properly if there is internal bleeding, whiplash or even a mild concussion. The point is, Your story is manufactured and fake.

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It wasn't music or an artist who brought you closer to Islam, it was the power of the words, the lyrics, the poetry which made you think and reflect. I say MashaAllah that you're taking more interest in Islam now and I can assure you, no Lupe Fiasco's poetry is better than what's written in the Quran and the Hadith.

If listening to something has a greater effect on you than reading, I suggest you buy a little digital Quran. I have often cried myself to sleep listening to english translations of the hadith books, they're so simple yet so powerful!