Well, I just like the quote. I like many others too. I don’t take his words as gospel. He is not saying listen to me and follow me because it is the right thing to do. If the same statement came from someone who had a dogmatic religious/political agenda, I would agree with you but that is not the case here. Big difference.
One way or another, people always live with the result of others thinking. So this quote makes no sense and just a distraction for religion. There is no REAL creativity. Every thing made by human has a copy element which in other words is called inspiration. People love delusion. Let me know when people stop reading novels, watching movies, etc.
For example, Steve jobs had to take calligraphy classes to make Mac fonts.
Good analogy! We learn everything by trial and error. It’s kind of like getting through a political revolution for future peace. We go against the very ideology of peace to create peace because some people want chaos and will continue to cause trouble. Lives are sacrificed so our future generations don’t suffer. In the same way, you have to hear people who have learned from their mistakes so you don’t make them. That advice could be anything, what you take from it is up to you. In this case, Jobs wanted us to think for ourselves because that makes us innovative instead of repetitive.
Yes and no. Depends on the individual. As long as there is a need to interact with other people, there has to be a degree of conforming or we will all be social outcasts and deviants. Following in someone’s footsteps is not the same thing as being inspired by certain messages. The key is to understand the message, not the messenger.
There are hundreds of sayings I like and I don’t even know where most of them came from. I like the sayings, I don’t have to like the person who said it.
I wonder if he took a course in analysis 101… May his soul rest in peace.
Also I think, with the help of some one else’ idea, that if one make base of his thinking on logically fallacious principle, it rupture future thinking process.
I don’t think Steve Jobs would have been the first person to say this.
In my field most dogmas are flawed, and most difficult students to teach are those who stick to these dogmas. Most of the things we teach our students are not correct, and we know it, but you have to come up with a unifying theory to help them in day to day practice.
A person will be not living with the results of other people’s thinking only if he is disconnected from humans socially/culturally and living in jungle.
The bold is not correct. You always get inspired following your wish to follow. You may not be able to follow entirely but even thinking/trying to follow implies you have a part of your life living with the result of others thinking.
What he said wasn’t a grand idea. People who agreed with him or thought like him liked what he said. This doesn’t mean they didn’t think like this to begin with. For example, I have always thought like this. He didn’t inspire me to think differently. It is a mere acknowledgement of my thoughts that were already there.
Let’s talk about logic now.
It is not a fallacy because there is no premise, or a conclusion. If he said, ‘you will think like others if you are trapped by dogma’ or ‘you will not think like others if you are not trapped by dogma’. These have a premise and a conclusion. Another thing is, Jobs is basically defining what dogma is in the latter part of his statement. He is just saying, ‘don’t be trapped by dogma.’ What is the premise of this statement? Calling it a logical fallacy makes no sense. What you are doing however is called fallacist’s fallacy.
At best, you could call it a paradoxical statement.
