Occupied Palestine...

What do occupation forces call occupied Palestine? Or the occupiers called Zionists call it? They named that piece of land ‘Israel’…

So, if today, an outside force seizes a city of Pakistan let’s say Lahore or Karachi and name these cities as something else, how many of us will accept it? How many of us will call occupied Karachi or Lahore by a name that occupiers have named it?

So how can anyone call occupied Palestine as ‘Israel’ is beyond me…

What is Israel? It is a name given to the piece of land of which its native and indigenous population have been displaced and uprooted to make place for…In my heart, occupied Palestine will forever remain what it always was…Palestine or Falasteen depending on where you are coming from…

I refuse to call Palestine anything other than Occupied Palestine…A nation under siege by murderers and usurpers called Zionists…It is a travesty of anything human to call a land bled to extinction by genocide to call it a name other than what its displaced native population call it…

I refuse to call Occupied Palestine as ‘Israel’…I will always call that piece of land Occupied Palestine…A nation under siege by a people called Zionists…

As for ‘Israel’…There is no such nation…It does not exist…

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Yeah, only in your bubble head, yellow smiley face.

Just like Pakistan does'nt exist. Right? Pakistan should be called Occupied India. Just because India didnt want to blow up our children, throw rockets into our towns, or suicide bomb our declaration of independence doesn't mean they give up claim to their land. Occupied India is a nation under seige by a people called Pakistanis.

Dont talk about this nonsense about occupation and what not. There was a war, the Arabs lost and Israel won. The war continues to this day and Israel is being "compassionate" for not blowing the Palestinians back into the stoneage. When there's a war, there's also a bounty. The bounty is land and Israel is the victor. Live with it!

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Popular sentiments do not sway me...If it's in my bubble head, so be it...

I do not accept renaming of an occupied land...Especially if it came from the genocide of its native people...It is a smear on the efforts and blood of those who believed in a cause and who died defending it...

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India was not occupied...It did not face genocide or displacement of its inhabitants...Hindustan was and still is Hindustan...Pakistan was formed not by declaration and occupation but by partition...

Get your facts straight...

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Get your sarcastic meter checked.

As for facts, go check what war is. You cant wage a war and cry foul about "occupation" when you lose. Israel won a war and the bounty was Palestine. You liberal hippies dont understand Israel can do whatever they want with their land. Build an amusement park, prop up some villages, bulldoze a few homes...whatever! They have every right to evict every single Palestinian off Israeli land. Lucky for Palestinians that has yet to come.

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the palestinian cause is not a begging bowl, the land may have been lost and it can be re-won. the two state offer, from muslims to israellis, as everyone knows is time limited.

long live Abdul Qadeer Khan

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OK...Then by that standard every Palestinian has every right to use whatever means necessary to evict these occupiers including suicide bombing...

Now, don't be crawling 'foul' when that happens...And certainly don't cry foul should Muslims seize back these lands and treat every Zionist like they treated the Palestinians...

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If a Muslim voices opposition, he's an extremist.
If a non-muslim voices opposition, he's a liberal and a victim.

Food for thought.

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That's not food for thought...That's a fact...

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Another fact, hard to swallow is that Jews have Christians (specifically Protestants, WASP, and Evangalists) fooled into thinking that Jews Are For Jesus!

History has it another way, it was the Jews who rejected Jesus (a.s.) and got him crucified.

Now that's a fact! Make it look pretty or swallow it as it is, it won't change.

Israel will not stop at just the occupation of Israel alone, but the goal rather is to establish The Greater Israel where all the Jews of the world can relocate to and build an empire.

Palestinians suffer because they've been betrayed by Arabs. Arabian nations have not voiced their opposition in one-united-voice. Whoever tried to achieve that was either silenced or taken out altogether.

Example:

King Faisal, he tried to use the Oil card to put conditions on American policy towards the Middle East, and he was murdered by his own nephew.

:D

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interesting article

Britain’s permanent stance of kowtowing to the Israeli government has been exposed twice this week in the Guardian, with the case of the unarrestable Israeli general swiftly followed by the Foreign Office’s stifling of sensitive accusations regarding Israel’s nuclear weapons hoard.

However, despite commentators expressing astonishment at the way Britain’s integrity has been compromised, the only really shocking thing is the implication that the British government has previously been a model of morality when it comes to dealing with Israel.

In both exposures, the UK authorities come out looking both weak and unprincipled, while their Israeli counterparts are laughing behind their backs.

In the case of General Almog, the curious excuse used to justify the inaction of the police was that they feared a gun-battle taking place on board the El Al airliner, as well as the inevitable political tornado that would ensue.

In the case of suppressing the mention of Israel’s nuclear arsenal in the Iraq dossier, a similar line of reasoning was employed, with Foreign Office officials apparently too scared of Israeli condemnation if they pointed the finger at the IDF’s wealth of atomic weapons in its Dimona bunkers.

These defences are intended to portray Britain as desperate to pursue justice, but too cowed by the intimidatory tactics of the Israeli state to be able to take a stand against their perceived misdeeds. Britain acts like a schoolchild who tells all the other kids that he’d love to bring down the playground bully, but is scared of having his legs broken if he speaks up and takes a stand.

Which is all well and good - if people are gullible enough to fall for this act. But, given that Britain has previous for wading in and dispensing justice in plenty of other hotspots around the world, it seems unlikely that it would turn tail and flee rather than squaring up to Israel.

Instead, what is more likely is that British government is a more than willing bedfellow of the Israeli authorities, and only pretends it isn’t when the evidence against it is too compelling to ignore.

Of course, this lily-livered approach isn’t confined merely to UK-Israeli relations. The potential arrests of Pinochet and Mugabe (among other possible high-profile detainees) have been fudged in recent years, with the government quick to offer flimsy reasoning behind their refusal to authorise their apprehension. But when it comes to dealing with Israel, the duplicity of the British officials threatens to impact on a far wider community than merely the public of the state in question.

Britain is already reviled across much of the Arab world for its willingness to invade Iraq and impose the will of the US on the local populace. Being permanently tied to America’s apron strings in this and other instances hasn’t done much for Britain’s image either, since the US is a perennial target of Arab ire - but, at least with the Americans their colours are nailed firmly to their mast.

Love ‘em or loathe ‘em, the Americans don’t make any pretences about where their loyalties lie, and this makes them somewhat easier to deal with, even for their opponents, since they make no bones about their motives. Pumping vast sums of cash into the Israel defence ministry’s coffers is as clear a signal as any to Israel’s enemies that if you mess with Israel, you’ll have America to deal with too.

In Britain’s case, the duplicity employed in which the government tries to appease all the countries, all the time, only weakens their image in the eyes of both sides of the Middle East conflict. A good example of this is the talkback section of the Jerusalem Post, where the fact that the UK authorities pulled back from the brink and let Almog escape the long arm of the law meant nothing to the incensed readers.

One even went so far as to say “As a British citizen I am ashamed at my country … so much so that I am making aliyah. The Jewish people have a right to defend ourselves no matter what soil we are on. AM YISRAEL CHAI! (the people of Israel live!)”.

While the government acts mournful at the way its hands are supposedly tied, General Almog continues to be treated as above the law in Israel, thanks to the refusal of Britain to take a stand for what its own judiciary clearly thought was right in international and national law.

After all, if one of Israel’s main allies and sponsors isn’t prepared to set an example, then why should Israel pay the blindest bit of notice to what smaller, less influential nations or NGOs say about the army’s behaviour?

And, in the case of the ineffable N word when it comes to Israel’s weapons of mass destruction, the situation is so laughable as to be (almost) unbelievable. Can a country of Britain’s stature on the world stage is really be too scared to mention the subject? No one is in any doubt that Israel possesses nuclear weapons - so why the Foreign Office doesn’t feel bold enough to say so in their reports can mean only one of two things.

Either they are genuinely fearful of Israeli reprisals against the UK (like what - a boycott? A ground invasion?), or they have in fact been deep in Israel’s pockets all along, and just prefer to feign innocence rather than admit to where their loyalties lie. It doesn’t take a genius to work out the answer.
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=97695

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Israel is known to reward its extremists..oops i mean ‘freedom fighters’.

Let me tell you how and specifically how:

Between 1941-1948 over 259 Terrorists attacks took place by Jews. The three notorious militant groups were:

Irgun
Stern Gang
Haganah

The King David bombing that took place on July 22, 1946 was conducted by Irgun Militant Group, whose leader was Menacham Begin. The group dressed as arabs so the blame would fall on Muslims, but the investigation discovered the truth. This attack was meant to send a clear message to then British Occupation. The total loss of life in that attack was 91 people, some of whom were British, some Palestinians.

Menacham Begin was labeled Terrorist #1 by the British. Later he became the Prime Minister of Israel and later went on to earn the Noble Peace Prize.

:smiley: Sweet deal huh?

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jews are nothing but blood thirsty terrorists who will stop at nothing to get Palestinian land, even if it means bombing the hell out of innocent Palestinians.

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and you wonder why Israel has nuclear weapons

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How do you know what saieen's wondering about? Can you read minds now?

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You mean occupied Muslim land? Since it belonged to the Mughals?

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http://www.stage6.com/user/victorecho/video/2119879/Occupation-101

A Must watch.

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^ THANKS! I came in this thread just to promote their documentary :D

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BS! On that note lets glorify the struggle of Nazi, Hutu, and Serbians aggitators also. Lets make a movie and sensationalize their plight too if we’re going to portray every menace as an innocent victim.
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The Palestinians and Israelis were waging a war for decades and the Palestinians lost terribly. Unfair? Yes. But that’s war! You dont go around attacking people and then whine about unfair treatment when you get your ass kicked.**

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You need to get your head checked. Oh and while you're at it, check your facts too.

Germans committed genocide of Jews, and when Jews were liberated where do they turn to for a home? Palestine. Palestinians welcomed their distant cousins with open arms.

When in reality, the Jews should have waged a war with Germans and occupied Germany for their atrocities.

Ironic? No, more like hypocracy at its best.

Oh and in case you forgot, Jews have been terrorizing others way before muslims. But i know it would hurt your pride to realize and know the facts. So we'll leave it at that.