Obama Headed For Decisive Victory/Obama Takes it!! [Merged]

[junaid001]

@cricketplaya

Bro, millions of dollars from companies like Goldman Sachs, Microsoft, Google, JPMorgan, CitiGroup, Lehman, Time Warner, Morgan Stanley and God knows how many other corporations he has accepted cash from..!

is he their crony no.
but what i know from what i read most of his funds came from individuals.

[cricketplaya]

here top 5 contributors:

University of California $909,283
Goldman Sachs $874,207
Harvard University $717,230
Microsoft Corp $714,108
Google Inc $701,099

no influence? of course they have influence bro, these corporations are not stupid.

[vroom]

Re: Obama Takes It!!!

obama will support israel outwardly but what is questionable or what remains to be seen is his conduct with the islamic world.

if the current scenerio doesnt end with iran and pakistan neutralised then that israel thing is shrinking if not outright moving on to pastures new in the future

[coOoLBreeze]

Re: Obama Takes It!!!

it does show that Americans have changed and they are out of 1860 Civil war :D....

Congrats to Americans and lets welcome the well due change ....

Btw the speech from both contenders were impressive.

[coOoLBreeze]

Re: Beautiful Blessing Comes to US White House!

it will be an even better day to remember for sure when that ugly monkey leaves the house...

[coOoLBreeze]

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did any one read the statement of Hamid karzai to new US president.. .. this man is so biased and charged up against Pakistan. a real idiot and puppet

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Karzai said: “My first demand from the US president, when he takes office, would be to end civilian casualties in Afghanistan and take the war to places where there are terrorist nests and training centres.”

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Asian leaders voice hopes over Obama | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

[Spock]

here top 5 contributors:

University of California $909,283 Goldman Sachs $874,207 Harvard University $717,230 Microsoft Corp $714,108 Google Inc $701,099

no influence? of course they have influence bro, these corporations are not stupid.

Sorry to burst the bubble, but thats how these expensive election campaigns work. THEY HAVE to do this. For instance, what does Google or Microsoft get out of this? They support OBama because of his reforms. Microsoft wants more tech workers abroad, hence relaxed immigration reforms for skilled workers, so they support the guy who gives it to them. I dont know what the problem here is. This isnt Pakistan were waderaz can use their money, or use the nation's money to campaign. Individuals in the US cannot donate more than around 2500 usd as per rules.

[bunnyhoney]

Spot on!!! You got that right!!

Sorry to burst the bubble, but thats how these expensive election campaigns work. THEY HAVE to do this. For instance, what does Google or Microsoft get out of this? They support OBama because of his reforms. Microsoft wants more tech workers abroad, hence relaxed immigration reforms for skilled workers, so they support the guy who gives it to them. I dont know what the problem here is. This isnt Pakistan were waderaz can use their money, or use the nation's money to campaign. Individuals in the US cannot donate more than around 2500 usd as per rules.

[Dubaiwali]

@Spock

Sorry to burst the bubble, but thats how these expensive election campaigns work. THEY HAVE to do this. For instance, what does Google or Microsoft get out of this? They support OBama because of his reforms. Microsoft wants more tech workers abroad, hence relaxed immigration reforms for skilled workers, so they support the guy who gives it to them. I dont know what the problem here is. This isnt Pakistan were waderaz can use their money, or use the nation’s money to campaign. Individuals in the US cannot donate more than around 2500 usd as per rules.

excellent post! :k:

[5Abi]

Re: Beautiful Blessing Comes to US White House!

it should be called Black House now

[nGenius]

@shoponline4kaprey

I’d hate to break it to everyone but Obama will not be the president for Pakistan with an economic crisis worst than the great depression and 2 wars in Iraq and Afghanistan I don’t think Kashmir is going to be high on the agenda. I know Pakistani Americans tend to vote based on what’s good for Pakistan but it seems American is going to have to look inward to fix its problems, the US is bankrupt for lack of a better explaination they can’t really help anyone before they help themself and really, its better when American stays out of other people’s bussiness.

Pk and India should solve their own issues and stop wasting their money on the millitary industrial complex that is happy to sell weapons to both sides.

There are some fundamental problems in Pakistan. These problems need to be address otherwise Pakistan will never be able to progress and improve it’s image, economy..etc.

We have been dancing on the tune of west…puppet government. When are we going to realize that we need to take care of our own problems. We can’t keep on begging for Money from other. We need to industrialize our country. We just can’t depend on Agri sector. our imports are higher then our export, we are losing money by import good that we know we can produce at home.

Can we compare ourselves to the countries like Thailand, Malaysia, Iran?

*We need to remove the feudalism from Pakistan.

*Land and political reform should be the 1st priority.

*Political reform (4 Party system)

*Foreign policies (Good relationship with China, Malaysia, Singapore, South Korea, Japan, Iran, Russia, CAS states, Ukraine, Belarus, Eastern European countries, EU, USA, UK, Australia, South African and African countries)

*create 15 provinces (Merge FATA into pakistan)
(Multan, Mansura (Norht of Hydrabad Sindh), Turan (south of Quetta), Qusdar (South East of Quetta), Markan, Mashkey (now Lesbala district)

*Create new Industrial zones.

*Development of Coastal Areas, Blochistan, Interior Sindh (Larkana, Nawabshah), and North western provinces.

Feudalism is a term used to describe a mode of production where land is the main source and means of livelihood. One person, or a very small group of people, owns the land that a large majority of labour is dependent upon for its survival. The landowner exercises full authority on employment and thus has full control over the livelihood of such people. Feudalism emerged in Europe around the 5th century AD; solidified itself in the 8th century and continued up to the 13th century; after which it slowly began to disintegrate as other means of production gradually developed. The system appeared in the subcontinent in the 7th century, continued up to the 18th century and began to disintegrate here as well for the same reasons.

“Democracy will have no meaning, so-called independent judiciary will be only moonshine without the abolition of feudal system, hence, it was imperative to abolish the feudal system which has ruined this country and country men”

He also stressed for creating agro-based industrial zones in the interior Sindh and other parts of the country to mitigate the miseries of the poor tillers and make Pakistan self-reliant in food and livestock. Mr. Aftab Soomro said that ninety-five percent solution to our socio-economic and political problems was in the land reforms and the PPP which has had to its credit to ample farmers-friendly initiatives in the past too, so, it is expected this time it will take such bold and brave steps to change the lot of farmers and peasants of this country.

Throughout history, feudalism has appeared in different forms. The feudal prototype in Pakistan consists of landlords with large joint families possessing hundreds or even thousands of acres of land. They seldom make any direct contribution to agricultural production. Instead, all work is done by peasants or tenants who live at subsistence level.
The landlord, by virtue of his ownership and control of such vast amounts of land and human resources, is powerful enough to influence the distribution of water, fertilisers, tractor permits and agricultural credit and, consequently exercises considerable influence over the revenue, police and judicial administration of the area. The landlord is, thus, lord and master. Such absolute power can easily corrupt, and it is no wonder that the feudal system there is humanly degrading.

The system, which some critics say is parasitical at its very root, induces a state of mind which may be called the feudal mentality. This can be defined as an attitude of selfishness and arrogance on the part of the landlords. It is all attitude nurtured by excessive wealth and power, while honesty, justice, love of learning and respect for the law have all but disappeared. Having such a mentality, when members of feudal families obtain responsible positions in civil service, business, industry and politics, their influence is multiplied in all directions. Indeed the worsening moral, social, economic and political crisis facing this country can be attributed mainly to the powerful feudal influences operating there.

Almost half of Pakistan’s Gross National Product and the bulk of its export earnings are derived primarily from the agricultural sector controlled by a few thousand feudal families. Armed with a monopoly of economic power, they easily pre-empted political power.

To begin with, the Pakistan Muslim League, the party laying Pakistan’s foundation 53 years ago, was almost wholly dominated by feudal lords such as the Zamindars, Jagirdars, Nawabs, Nawabzadas and Sardars, the sole exception being the Jinnahs. Pakistan’s major political parties are feudal-oriented, and more than two-thirds of the National Assembly (Lower House) is composed of this class. Besides, most of the key executive posts in the provinces are held by them.

Through the 50s and the 60s the feudal families retained control over national affairs through the bureaucracy and the armed forces. Later on in 1972, they assumed direct power and retained it until the military regained power recently. Thus, any political observer can see that this oligarchy, albeit led by and composed of different men at different times, has been in power since Pakistan’s inception.

[somegroovychick]

Re: Obama Takes It!!!

i don't know what the mood is where y'all are, but we're just positively giddy at work today!!! everyone is SO THRILLED and relieved and its a day that just feels like change. it feels positive and good and happy, and it doesn't matter that we're Canadians and we didn't vote - it feels like a win for us too :)
it really was a global election this time 'round.

how many of you teared up listening to his speech last night?

[NyFella]

Awesome day today. so historic.

I hope he can bring the change in washington, it was awesome seeing the reactions around the world and feels different today too.

[Straight_up]

i don't know what the mood is where y'all are, but we're just positively giddy at work today!!! everyone is SO THRILLED and relieved and its a day that just feels like change. it feels positive and good and happy, and it doesn't matter that we're Canadians and we didn't vote - it feels like a win for us too :) it really was a global election this time 'round.

how many of you teared up listening to his speech last night?

I feel exactly the same SGC. It definitely feels positive and good. :)

Oh and I was very impressed by McCain's speech as well. Very 'gracious' as CNN called it!

[ehtasab]

i don't know what the mood is where y'all are, but we're just positively giddy at work today!!! everyone is SO THRILLED and relieved and its a day that just feels like change. it feels positive and good and happy, and it doesn't matter that we're Canadians and we didn't vote - it feels like a win for us too :) it really was a global election this time 'round.

how many of you teared up listening to his speech last night?

It may be more to do with the thought that Bush is going :D

[Spock]

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Bush is like the kiss of death! Whoever he gets cosy with becomes unpopular, be it Blair or Musharraf. Mccain's biggest mistake was to goto the white house and have a photo session with Bush, despite being very bitter with him back in 2000.

[janab-e-ali]

@Spock

Individuals in the US cannot donate more than around 2500 usd as per rules.

You are, of course, familiar with the fact that Obama essentially flouted the $2,300/person limit by turning a blind eye to the sources of his internet donations. It’s pretty much been established that the happily accepted untraceable (and likely illegal) donations sent under fraudulent names.

@saint_devil

now imagine Obama comes out and declare that he is MUSLIM!!!

@junaid001

oh my God what a night.. a son of a immigrant, a black with muslim background

I sincerely hope that you people didn’t vote for him because the grandfather he barely knew happened to be Muslim.

@vroom

obama will support israel outwardly

I could care less about what he secretly believes. At this point, his actual actions are all that matter. And his recent actions (whether it’s supporting billions in military aid to Israel, or firing off a letter to the US ambassador to the UN demanding that the Security Council keep their silence on the Israeli blockade of Gaza) show that he will be no friend of the Palestinians.

@coOoLBreeze

did any one read the statement of Hamid karzai to new US president.. .. this man is so biased and charged up against Pakistan. a real idiot and puppet

I’m sure Obama will be more than happy to oblige…he’s repeatedly been calling for military strikes against Pakistan since at least 2004.

[shoponline4kaprey]

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I don't think the US can afford another war. Like I said earlier, he is inheriting a mess right now, hope he is able to fix it!

[shoponline4kaprey]

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Also, a muslim is one that believes in Islam and takes the shahada etc. Having a muslim parent does not make you a muslim, even if its both your parents. Barak has repeatedly siad he's a Christian, he has distanced himself from muslims so unless he converts to islam now, it's not really not wise for muslims to expect him to do something special for him. Now he coudl always convert while he is the white house and no one can kick him out so imiagine that, Barak has had exposure to Islam, and you never know who God decides to send guidence to and when.

[teggy]

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Obama acceptance speech (Full):

McCain concession speech: